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449.1 | | MSEE::KELLEY | got to get the short game togther | Mon Nov 21 1988 10:11 | 22 |
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Note 432.24 How was YOUR year? 24 of 27
MSEE::KELLEY "got to get the short game togther" 14 lines 17-NOV-1988 12:28
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Even though I did have a pretty good year and some personel
bests and got the handicap down to the single digits, I did
NOT obtain the objective that I posted in the REGISTRY note.
I stated that I wanted to be more consistant, I wasn't...!
My game can/does go from 72 to 102... I know the problem
lies between my ears (the hardest 6 inches in golf).
Does anybody have any good tips for controlling all those
negative thoughts that cause those bad shots? any good
books on the subject? any good videos on the subject?
Thanks
Gene (who_is_still_playing_36_to_54_holes_per_week)
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449.2 | | MSEE::KELLEY | got to get the short game togther | Mon Nov 21 1988 10:11 | 42 |
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Note 432.26 How was YOUR year? 26 of 27
IAMOK::OCONNOR 34 lines 18-NOV-1988 13:18
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Gene, I do not know your game, but here is a suggestion to help eliminate those
negative thoughts. I suspect that the negative thoughts create a tension that
you may or may not be aware of, therfore destroying your tempo and timing. Try
to target your game for one round, to your strenghs. For example: Lets say your
chipping is one the the strongest parts of your game.
Set out to purposely chip up close on every one of the eighteen holes.
That means that you INTENTIONALY MISS all the greens in regulation. However,
you still select the club that you feel you need to get to the green. What this
does is it eliminates the tension-
(created by the thought - "I must get on the green to get my par" - which
really means "I am not going to par the hole and I am not going to break 40,
again")
-that builds up as a result of negative thoughts and, MORE IMPORTANTLY, through
this process you develop the habit of thinking only in a positive manner.
What you do when you do get on in regulation is take it off and place it in a
spot that gives you a challenging chip.
After a while you will certainly reduce a lot of tension AS A RESULT OF
THINKING POSITIVE THOUGHTS, and your consistancy will improve.
Some side effects:
-you will begin to hit more greens in regulation, which means that you will
probably have to practice your putting.
-you will get more profecient in you chipping
-when you do have to scramble for a par in a tournament your confidence in
your ability will be extremely high and you will succeed more often.
It has worked for me in the past. If you are inclined, let me know when you do
do this and I will come along and do it myself. It has been a while since I
have practiced thus. Let me know how it turns out.
Richard
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449.3 | the MENTAL aspects of the game | TONTO::GORDON | | Mon Nov 21 1988 14:06 | 10 |
| "To hit good golf shots consistently, YOU NEED TO MASTER really
only a handful of SETUP and SWING FUNDAMENTALS, but MASTER them
you must." Jack Nicklaus
So as for the mental aspects of the game...spend enough time on
the practice range mastering the fundamentals so that the golf swing
and your grip&setup are second nature to you...then the only
thoughts you'll have are positive ones. Practice builds the one
ingrediance that you must have to play well....confidence in the
shots you are hitting.
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449.4 | KEEP ON PRACTICING!! | DARTS::DIAZ | La Ultima y Nos Vamos | Mon Nov 21 1988 16:30 | 17 |
| Re:< Note 449.3 by TONTO::GORDON >
I can't agree with you more. This year I changed jobs in May, and
my new location made it easy for me to stop on my way back from work
(Marlboro to Stow) at the range in Stow Acres. As I started to feel
more confident about the way I hit the ball at the range, I was able
to tell myself on the course: "You know you can hit it right. You
did it at the range. Remember how you did it. And it worked! Well,
most of the times :^)
But, the worst part is when it doesn't work, and every hole is worst
that the previous ones. And nothing you do gets your swing and tempo
back. And one day you hit under 90 and the next day over 100. I
don't know any cure for those bad days. The only thing I do (And I
guess most of us) is hope that the next time I get it all back.
Tavo (Who hit over a 100 over the weekend)
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449.5 | Don't worry, Be happy | EUCLID::WARFIELD | Gone Golfing | Mon Nov 21 1988 17:43 | 19 |
| > But, the worst part is when it doesn't work, and every hole is worst
> that the previous ones. And nothing you do gets your swing and tempo
> back. And one day you hit under 90 and the next day over 100. I
> don't know any cure for those bad days. The only thing I do (And I
> guess most of us) is hope that the next time I get it all back.
I find that often I put too much pressure on my self when I am too
consious of my score. When I play each hole as it comes the score
tends to take care of itself.
More times than not when I have given up on shooting a good overall
score and start to play each hole as it comes I settle down and
even occasionally light it up on the back nine to come up with a
good overall score.
Just goes to prove that golf is tough enough without putting more
pressure on your self.
Larry
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449.6 | good old 16 | MJOSWS::FAGLEY | beat the resident | Tue Nov 22 1988 09:16 | 14 |
| My round last week is a perfect example of head problems. Played
the front in a good 41 and was even par on the back thru 15. I
walked up to 16 tee (par 3 175yrds and WELL protected) thinking
"this hole ALWAYS kills me!". Hit a 5-iron O.B, hit second tee
shot wild right, caught a tree, knocked it down, took 7 for the
hole! Suddenly 4 over and mentally destroyed! Bogied 17 and par
on 18 to finish 41-41=82. This is a common senario because I allow
16 to scare me to death. What hurts most is that my 5-Iron was good
to me all day until then. Normally I use a 6 at that distance but
selected 5 because I was hitting it so well!
My point is... Playing tight and thinking negatively gets you
EVERY time.
Rick
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449.7 | Plan the Hole and RELAX | IAMOK::OCONNOR | | Tue Nov 22 1988 11:11 | 7 |
| "Killer Holes" We all have them. Here is a way that has worked (most
of the time) for me. I plan the hole at the begining of the round.
And unless the circumstances are very, very unusual I NEVER change
the plan. Take the ninth at Stow north. Unless the tee markers are
way forward I hit a one iron off the tee, aiming out to the right,
hit a pitching wedge for the second and try to pitch it close for
the par. So plan the hole you BEFORE you tee off and stick to it!
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449.8 | That's one of the many "killers" for me! | MTWAIN::F_MCGOWAN | Ci stiamo gia divertendo? | Tue Nov 22 1988 11:47 | 14 |
| That's one of the worst for me (and since it's the 1-handicap hole
on the course, for everyone else I guess). I used to play that one
conservatively, but after laying up on the second shot, I usually
talked myself out of the pitch shot and dumped it in the water.
So, late in the season, after a good drive, I pulled out the 3-wood
and knocked it to the back edge, and made bogey (for me, a virtual
par). Same thing on #4, another water hole...of course, I was having
major problems with the wedge all year, so switching to the 3-wood
made sense for me! And, if I knocked a fairway wood into the pond,
it wasn't nearly as embarrassing as chili-dipping the PW.
Time to go back and reread "The Inner Game"!
Frank
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449.9 | don't try to fool your subconscious!! | TONTO::GORDON | | Tue Nov 22 1988 13:14 | 8 |
| re:.6
175 yd 5 iron...try taking more club and therefore relaxing more
and hence putting a smoother/better swing on the ball....
almost ALL of us DON'T take enough club and subconsciously
know it and try to kill everything....don't beleive it??
Try it and see how many time you actually fly a green...I'll bet
you hit more greens than you go over...!!!
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449.10 | BORDER LINE ARROGANCE!! | FRSBEE::WORRALL | | Tue Nov 22 1988 15:09 | 17 |
| I feel to be good at any sport you must have a border line arrogant
attitude. Very confident, not cocky but half way there. I used to
stink in softball until one year I told myself that I was the best
first baseman in my division, well that year I made one error, and
I actually believed myself. This year I told myself that I AM
a pretty damm good golfer and approached the year that way. In 1987
I was scoring in the high 90's consistently. This year I have
scored more like 81-82 consistently. I dont know but that borderline
arrogant approach to golf has certainly helped me. Im not tense,
Im not overly concerned, Im focused and extremly confident in my
game.
Greg
NOTE: BEFORE LAST YEARS 3-POINT CONTEST LARRY BIRD SIMPLY SAID IN THE
LOCKER ROOM PRIOR TO THE COMPETITION - 'OK WHICH ONE OF YOU GUYS IS
GOING TO COME IN SECOND PLACE." (BORDERLINE ARROGANT)
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449.11 | subconcious isn't the killer... reality is! | MJOSWS::FAGLEY | beat the resident | Tue Nov 22 1988 15:40 | 14 |
| RE:9
BEHIND THE PIN IS DEATH ON 16...
I don't want to hit the green I want to hop on... play it like
165yrds... 6 iron.
The other par 3 holes are 185, 160(water and bunkers), 185...
5,7,6 irons for me, so I really was using extra club with a 5!
Like .7's advice...
next time... 7, SW, one-putt!!!! (plan of attack)
Rick
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449.12 | Think HOW to not NEED to | CSMADM::MARCHETTI | Mama said there'd be days like this. | Wed Nov 23 1988 11:07 | 15 |
| A good tip I heard many years ago for those tense situations is
to not think about what you NEED to make on a hole, but HOW to make
it.
Some years ago I stood on the 18 tee at Stow North needing a 7 to
break 90 for the first time ever. Remembering the above tip, I
focused on how to make a 7 instead of "I need a seven". I used
a 3 wood and didn't try to bust a drive, played well short of the
water, hit up short of the green to avoid the traps, chipped on
and took two putts for a 6.
Its worked many other times when I've had a good score going into
the final holes and I've felt the pressure building.
Bob
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449.13 | don't Read just Play | VICKI::SMITH | Consulting is the Game | Mon Nov 28 1988 13:17 | 23 |
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I'd experienced that same degree of tension/apprehension
last Year that you've experienced this Year! My problem was that
I'd learned/practiced the 'basics' for a couple of seasons, and
I'd really relax and enjoy the game while learning it those first
couple of years. But, my troubles began after reading/practicing
the monthly 'Tips' in the various Golf magazines, and after reading
a few different books about Golfing technics! Things got SO bad
last Year that I'd catch myself trying to 'tune' my game between
Holes, not just between Rounds! I'm happy to report that I'm
relaxed and enjoying the game again this Year, and the magic
solution was not to read any Golf publications and/or any Golfing
books, just play the game in my own style for better or for worse!
note: When GOLF magazine arrives at my Home each month, I've made
a habit of not reading it, and when my Father-in-Law (a Golfer)
visits he gets to take home any/all of my Golf publications! My
Golfing books are safely stored in the Attic, and maybe I'll donate
them to the local Public Library!
don't Read just Play,
Bob
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449.14 | A Gripping Tale | MTWAIN::F_MCGOWAN | Ci stiamo gia divertendo? | Mon Nov 28 1988 13:22 | 16 |
| Re. -1: Hear, hear! It's certainly easy to become an overeducated
idiot in this game. I subscribe to Golf and Golf Digest, but restrict
myself to the non-instructional articles and humorous essays (sort of
like someone who buys Playboy just for the interviews). After deciding
to "get a grip" on things, and lighten up, I went out Saturday for
the real, no-kidding, final round of '88. I used about 25% of my
normal grip pressure, and got some *very* gratifying results: even
managed to hit a great pitching wedge to about 2' of the pin (that
particular club's been my nemesis all season). By relaxing the grip,
I got rid of most of the tension from my hands up through my shoulders
and neck, and was able to make much smoother swings. While not
reflected in the score, I know this is the key (for me, anyway)
to better, more enjoyable golf. As it was, I managed to par the
final hole, and walked off the course for the first time in months
not feeling like I'd spent the last two hours wrestling alligators.
Now, if I can only remember this until next Spring!
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449.15 | DON'T give up | MJOSWS::FAGLEY | beat the resident | Mon Nov 28 1988 14:33 | 11 |
| RE: .14
NO DON'T QUIT YET... DRIVE SOUTH! You better reinforce that newfound
grip a while!
I chase warm weather for golf and snow for skiing all the time!
If you don't get out again, oh well, just glad you enjoyed yourself
the "last" round.
Rick
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449.16 | One last turn! | MTWAIN::F_MCGOWAN | Ci stiamo gia divertendo? | Mon Nov 28 1988 14:46 | 11 |
| Rep. 15: I'll be reinforcing my new "key" on the practice mat for
the rest of the winter, unless I can persuade Slammin' Susie (my
wife and favorite partner, golf and otherwise) to travel to the
Cape during the doldrums of January/February/March for a golf week-
end or two (a distinct possibility). As it was, I'd already promised
her I'd played my last round of '88 two weeks ago...how was I to
know we'd get such incredible weather over Thanksgiving weekend?
Besides, seeing that last par putt drop, on its absolute last vestige
of forward momentum, is a memory that will keep me warm till Spring!
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449.17 | Good book... | MSEE::KELLEY | got to get the short game togther | Mon Dec 05 1988 08:32 | 13 |
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I just finished a book that I think may help my head game.
The book is The New Golf Mind, by Dr. Gary Wiren. It explains
the things that can affect your metal game and techniques
that you can use to over come them. I think it is well worth
the $7.00...!
Gene
Thought for the day, "you don't stop exercising because you
get old, you get old because you stop exercising." From the
The New Golf Mind...
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449.18 | Mental Abuse | MTWAIN::F_MCGOWAN | Ci stiamo gia divertendo? | Tue Dec 06 1988 06:13 | 11 |
| Someone in an earlier note mentioned "Mind Mastery" as a good one,
so I got hold of it and have started working my way through it.
Looks like it ought to help. "The Inner Game Of Golf" is also a
good one, if your head keeps getting in your way. In my case, if
I let myself start thinking about results rather than just concen-
trating on the swing, I'm in TROUBLE! Confidence is surely the key,
but until you've hit a passle of good shots, that's hard to come
by; and the bad shots are the ones that tend to stick in my mind.
Ah, well, that's what makes golf such an addictive pursuit, right?
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