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| 277.1 | A nice course | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Pride and Power | Thu May 26 1988 13:55 | 12 | 
|  |     	Steve, I don't know the exact yardage, but it's a nice course.
    It has 3 men's tees.  White, Blue and Gold.  I'd rate the Whites
    fairly easy, the Blues about average to slightly difficult, and
    the Golds extremely difficult.  I think it's 7000 + from the Golds.
    It does have some hilly holes, but overall it's not real hilly and
    then again not entirely flat.  There is water to go directly over
    to get to the green on 6 holes, and a winding brook that comes into
    play on at least 9 holes.  Greens are a little fast and hard, but
    overall are true and in quite nice shape.  My recomendation would
    be to play the Blue tees.
    
                                                       Beak
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| 277.2 | looking forward to it | BMT::FERRES |  | Thu May 26 1988 14:42 | 17 | 
|  |     thanx - ouch, that's a lot of water - i'll have to bring my
    floating balls!  Sounds like the lies will be o.k. in the
    fairway though.  How about the rough? Deep?  Do the trees
    tend to get in the way in the rough, or will i be able to
    knock it out & up the fairway?  We won't have a choice of
    tees since we'll be playing in a tournament - I'll bet
    we play from those blues though.  Do you know (roughly) how
    long it is from there?  Is it a typical 2 par 3's, 2 par 5's,
    5 par 4's per 9 holes, or is it more unusually balanced.  Are
    the par 3's long?  Sounds like it's well maintained, and with
    all this rain lately it ought to be in good shape, but maybe
    slower than usual.
    
    Looking forward to tee time,
    
    steve
    
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| 277.3 | I'm playing in a Tourny there, June 22nd | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Pride and Power | Fri May 27 1988 14:46 | 10 | 
|  |      It's a par 71,  35 - 36, with 4 par 3's and 3 par 5's.  The par
    3's are average, with the longest being about 190 and the shortest
    about 160.  The par 5's are, except for 1, unreachable in 2, unless
    yop can fly a drive over water 250 yards.  The rough is again, average,
    which is about right, considering the water.  And as far as trees,
    they are there, but are more or less sparse.  Only a couple of holes
    have what I would actually call woods.  There are a few O.B.s, but
    usually offer you one side of the fairway to miss on.
    
                                                             Beak
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| 277.4 | ok, tee it up! | BMT::FERRES |  | Tue May 31 1988 08:12 | 8 | 
|  |     thanx, Beak - I'm raring to go, now.  The par 3's are reachable,
    par 5's are rarely reachable for me on any course anyway, I can
    hit my 3 wood out of any average rough, and I hate trying to
    bend around trees, but O.B.s usually don't catch me.  Now if
    only the water would dry up fast!
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 277.5 | Good Luck!!! | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Cause you know that Time Fades Away | Fri Jun 03 1988 10:21 | 18 | 
|  |     	Steve,
    		I just played there this past Wednesday.  It's a par
    70, 35 - 35.  It has 3 par 5's and 5 par 3's!!!  Only 1 par 3 that's
    longer than a 5 iron.  Only 1 par 5 that's reachable and you have
    to hit 2 very good shots to do it.
    		I had an average round, and played better than I scored.
    I shot 85, but I felt I played to about an 82 score.  I had 2 doubles
    that I didn't deserve.  One on the 6th, a par 5 that I hit an 8
    iron into the green for my 3rd shot.  It hit a sprinkler head near
    the green and bounced 10 yards past the green and behind a tree.
    The other on the 18th, after a perfect tee shot, we got caught in
    a downpour, and the club slipped on my approach, leaving me in the
    trap on the right of the green.  The sand got real wet and heavy
    and unfortunately, I didn't make it out on my 3rd shot.  Oh well.
    Anyway, the course is in good condition, and the greens are fairly
    fast.  Tough to read too.
    
                                                      Beak
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| 277.6 | a good time | BMT::FERRES |  | Wed Jun 15 1988 08:32 | 25 | 
|  |     sorry for the delay - i just got back to town.  Well, we played
    and it was a nice little course ( i started putting full course
    details in here a while back, but the network crashed in the
    middle, so now i'll just sum it up).  Fairways were narrow, but
    the rough wasn't bad.  The water really didn't get in the way
    much for me, but it presented some nice challenges - the only
    time we had to look out was on our drives on 3-4 holes, where
    water was reachable.  It was a very pretty course, in good
    condition.   I thought that it was a fair course - no ridiculous
    lies or crazy hazards.  Greens were normal size, normal speed,
    normal difficulty (whatever that means).  I shot a 93 (about
    right for me), but that was in the pouring rain - we enjoyed it
    in spite of the rain.  Only 3-putt was on the first hole.  I
    loved that long par 5 dogleg left, over the stream, the back uphill
    past the mound (especially since I got a par).  We played from
    the middle tees - I'd like to try it from the back tees, it would
    be more fun (now if i could get rid of those back-to-back triple
    bogies on the back nine, i might even be able to score in this
    silly game).   We played with one guy who drove one par 4, and
    almost another (18th!! - no easy feat)!
    
    I'd like to go back there, and play it again.
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 277.7 | I'm playing another Tournament there this Wednesday | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Cause you know that Time Fades Away | Thu Jun 16 1988 07:46 | 7 | 
|  |     	Steve, you played from the middle tees.  What color?  They have
    4 sets, Red, White, Blue and Gold.  I can't imagine anyone wanting
    to play that course from the Golds, unless of course, you don't
    mind shooting 20 strokes over what you mormally do!!!  Very long
    from those tees, and the fairways become much narrower, or at least
    seem that way.
                                                      Beak
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| 277.8 | hookin' & slicing | BMT::FERRES |  | Thu Jun 16 1988 08:06 | 28 | 
|  |     whoops - i guess they must have been the whites (?).
    Did you see that one tee up on the hill next to the clubhouse? -
    the one where you could drive the lake downhill - it looked
    like it would be fun.
    Actually, since my driving stunk that day, I was in the rough
    a lot (only hit 3 fairways!), but I never seemed to be in trouble.
    The only difficulty I found was due to the rain creating a heavier
    than normal rough to get out of, so I needed more loft (and blew
    2-3 strokes by getting over-ambitious).  In fact, I thought that
    course was fairly forgiving to bad driving, even though the
    fairways were narrow.  For instance, on the second hole, I pushed
    my drive all the way into across the 3rd fairway.  After we all
    got up from the ground after laughing so hard, I went and found
    that I had a blind shot over trees and into the wind to the green,
    but even that was a makeable shot, and I managed to par that hole.
    The only real trouble the other guys got into (and me once) was
    taking too little club to clear water in front of a hole, or too
    much club and reaching water from the tee.  Also, one guy lost 2
    balls in the rough just off the fairway after all 4 of us thought
    we had seen exactly where they landed!  Then there were a couple
    of holes where the you're better off driving short and straight
    than risking hooks or slices into the woods where you  could lose
    2-3 strokes fast.
    
    Good luck in your tournament - let us know how it goes.
    
    ..........steve
    
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| 277.9 | Another average round | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Cause you know that Time Fades Away | Fri Jun 24 1988 07:58 | 19 | 
|  |     	Well, I didn't win anything, but had a very enjoyable day. 
    I shot 84, 1 stroke better than my 1st round there, but once again,
    felt I played better than I scored.  I just couldn't buy a putt.
    I only 3 putted 1 green, but just couldn't make any of those 6 -
    15 footers.  I usually make a few anyway.  It almost seems as if
    the cups on this course are built on tiny hills, that push all putts
    that aren't dead center, away and out of the cups.  I just really
    had a bad front 9, starting off with 2 double bogeys and finishing
    with a 44.  At least I got back a little on the back 9 with a 40.
    We played the white tees, although I wish we played the blues. 
    I hit the ball fairly long, and it wouldn't have hurt me as much
    as most of the other golfers.  There were a lot of guys in the 45
    to 60 year old range, who just hit the ball straight but not very
    long, that would have had their scores increased at least 5 strokes.
    The whites are only something like 6000 yards, while the blues are
    like 6650 and the Golds about 6900.  The course was in excellent
    condition though, and I avoided all the water.  Great day too.
    
                                                      Beak
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