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| 179.1 | My 2 cents worth... | MSEE::KELLEY | hope to get my game together this year | Thu Dec 31 1987 10:22 | 15 |
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My thoughts are that to be consistantly good you have to
be in pretty good shape (besides practice of course),
particularly if you walk and carry your sticks.
I believe that if you are not in pretty good
shape then it will definately show in your game in later
holes as you get worn down and tired. I advocate a good all
around exercise program rather than specific exercises to
help the muscles that are used in your swing (like some of
the devices that are offered to develope your swing).
Lets hear some other thoughts. I know people are reading
these notes, lets have some more contributors.
Gene
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| 179.2 | 1,2,3,2,2,3,3,2,3 | GRANMA::FDEADY | | Thu Dec 31 1987 17:23 | 18 |
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If you follow golf, and who reading this note file doesn't,
you have heard alot about Gary Players fitness thoughts. More new
players, coming out of college, have been involved in exercise programs
through their amateur careers. This factor I feel is as much a
contribution to increased length off the tee as is new equipment
technologies. More golf magazines are devoting articles regarding
conditioning, not only physical but also mental - Dr. Bob Rotella
is a frequent author. This past year Centinella Hospital (sp) in
Calif. released a book along with the PGA that describes a complete
exercise program specifically designed for a golfer. It covers all
muscles that are used in the swing, and gives strenghening and
stretching tips. It is a valuable asset, if anyone is interested
I'll dig it out and post an address/phone number to contact.
Fred Deady
Balt. MD.
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| 179.3 | getting out the kinks | KSYS::DONOVAN | | Tue Jan 05 1988 13:36 | 5 |
| New Noter: Jack Donovan, PSG Shrewsbury
Fred, I would be interested in some added info on this book.
Thanks, JD
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| 179.4 | | MYVAX::DIAMOND | Not one of the Beasty Boys | Tue Jan 05 1988 16:17 | 14 |
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One thing that I've done to help my game is wrist/hand strengthing
exercises. I have hand grips at my desk which I workout with at
least 3 times a week. Also have a wrist winding bar at work which
I also work with at least 3 times a week. Seems to help my golf
also my bowling and raquetball game.
Last summer I was heavy into weightlifting during the summer (usually
do it during the winter), but it seemed counter productive to my
golf game.
Mike
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| 179.5 | From the Home of the Open - Prestwick | AYOV18::FCAST_132803 | Bring back Joe Theismann | Wed Jan 06 1988 04:59 | 15 |
| I find general excercise like swimming, running, football etc is
generally good for your golf, as it helps to build up stamina. The
one thing to stay well clear off is any kind of body building /
weight training excercise as golf is meant to be a game for the
suptle (sp) people and not 280 pound gorilla's.
Tennis, Squash , etc can also ruin your game as you swing on a
different plan and only use one hand , where golf is on the one
plane and hopefully using both hands in unicine (sp).
Remeber !! Keep that right elbow tucked in !!
Walker (Just a swinger at heart) .
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| 179.6 | more muscle = more distance | GLIVET::HUSTON | | Wed Jan 06 1988 12:48 | 28 |
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re .4,5
body building will definetly help your game, (unless you are going
for mr. Universe or something like that). Lifting weights develops
alot of strength and need not develop alot of bulk, some will come
however. This is not a problem. The problems you will have are small
and easily worked out. They are probably caused by getting in your
own way on the swing. You are use to swinging around your body,
now, after weight lifting you have a slightly larger body, so what,
go to a range and hit some balls until you adjust.
Two summers ago, while working my way through college as a landscaper
I gained about 10-15 lbs just by carring all the trees, bushes and
plants around, also doing the labor. Some of these trees weighed
over 100 lbs easy. When fall golf season came at college and I
was doing lowsy, I went to the coach and he watched and told me
why, I was getting in my own way, he said stay on the range and
hit some balls. After that I was back on track and at least 1-2
clubs longer, especially off the tee and out of the rough. My scores
also went down about 8 shots for 18 holes.
As for golf being for subtle people, have you ever seen the size
of people like Fuzzy Zoeller, Greg Norman etc. Also have you ever
heard about Jim Rice (Boston Red Sox) hitting a golf ball, it only
goes about 350-400 yards on the drive.
--Bob
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| 179.7 | Crunchies for breakfast | BSS::RIGGEN | | Wed Jan 06 1988 16:19 | 5 |
| As stated in another note Adominal strength is one of the most
important exercises in the game. That is the reason the vetrans
like Hale Irwin refer to the younger golfers as flat bellies.
Jeff
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| 179.8 | Where to order | GRANMA::FDEADY | | Thu Jan 07 1988 19:08 | 20 |
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Here is some information regarding the PGA/Centinela Hospital exercise
book.
Title: 30 Exercises For Better Golf
Author: Frank W. Jobe M.D. with Diane R. Moynes M.S., R.P.T.
Published by Champion Press
Centinela Hospital Medical Center
555 E. Hardy Street
Inglewood, CA. 90307
Copyrighted 1986.
110 pages, illustrating and EXPLAINING exercises designed
specifically for golfers.
May all your shots be long and straight,
Fred Deady
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| 179.9 | Thanks for the info | KSYS::DONOVAN | | Fri Jan 08 1988 08:46 | 3 |
| FRED: Thanks for the info re the Centinelas Exercise book.
JD
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| 179.10 | No strength no length | WALTA::LENEHAN | | Tue Nov 21 1989 08:24 | 37 |
| Hi,
I kind of did my own survey... After working out 3-4 times a week
using Nautilus, free weights, biking etc. during the 88-89 winter, I
began the golf season in good shape. Early in the 89 season my swing
was much less hurried, on the downswing I didn't yank it through
impact... because I felt the distance would be there. Off the tee, and
on approach shots my game was very predictable. I suffered around the
greens, which I feel was due to lack of practice... tough to get the
touch.
Well being a dedicated golfer... I forfieted my moments in the
gym for more appropriate spring/summer/fall exercise GOLF.
As the season progressed I found my swing getting faster and faster.
I seemed to have lost all trust in making a good tempo swing, thinking
(on the downswing of course) that I better give it a little extra. By
the end? (one more round... that's it) of the 89 season I felt terrible
, almost always overswinging ;(.
So the moral of my exercise story is... stay in shape. The added
feeling of strength makes the club seem lighter and easier to control.
But WHEN!!!!!
With all my free time out on the course/range it's tough to squeeze
in a workout :) . Maybe I could get up real early , yeah that's it...
before work....yeah, that's the ticket!
29 degrees 50+ mile an hour winds this morning,
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| 179.11 | moved here by moderator... | MSEE::KELLEY | Golfoholic - club maker | Thu Dec 21 1989 14:48 | 25 |
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I had this theory that somehow jogging made you a better
golfer. I know when I lived in Cambridge, I would jog/
walk around Fresh Pond reservoir 3 times a week and
and play 2 or 3 times a week. During those years,
( and I hate to sound like those guys that say "you
should have seen me 5 years ago") my swing seemed
a lot smoother. I also weighed less, which I also think
is a factor. BUT does constant jogging help the golf
swing and does anybody use it as a "winter prep"
for spring golf?
I'm not the weight lifting or Nautilis type
so don't recomend that . How many joggers are
strictly golfers and use jogging for better golf?
I'm told that jogging is the ONLY exercise that
uses all (1200 ??) muscles in the right order??
Ang
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| 179.12 | | MAMIE::GORDON | | Thu Dec 21 1989 16:16 | 4 |
| I've read where Gary Player swears by it...runs 5 miles every day
as well as the areobic and nautlis (sp) type work outs....his theory
is a healthy body and sound mind lead to good golf over a longer
period of time....
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| 179.13 | I like that... | MSHRMS::GOGUEN | | Fri Dec 22 1989 14:43 | 8 |
| > his theory is a healthy body and sound mind lead to good golf over a
> longer period of time....
Makes sense to me.
-Paul
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| 179.14 | NOT FOR ALL | BOGUSS::COOPER | MAD HACKER | Fri Dec 22 1989 19:49 | 3 |
| I HATE EXERCISE !!!!
THE MAD/FAT HACKER
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| 179.15 | Exercise/flexibility... | MSEE::KELLEY | Getting ready for Spring... | Wed Feb 28 1990 08:57 | 25 |
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In Note 873 "HOW TO HIT LONG" there has been some discussion of
exercises to help strengthen muscle areas and or ways to increase
your flexibility. I would like to try to get more opinions on the
issues here.
Do you think strengthening particular muscles is the key?
If so, is it the key to distance only or a better all around game?
And if it you feel that only particular muscles need to be strengthened,
which ones?
Do you think conditioning the entire body is the key?
Do you think cardiovascular exercise is a big help for golfers?
Do you think flexibility is the key?
If so, is it the key to distance only or a better all around game?
Do you think that a good combination of all the above is the key?
Or do you think working at increasing your flexibility/strength/endurance
won't help your game at all and "only" practice and good fundamentals count?
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts...
Gene
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| 179.16 | | ALLVAX::DIAMOND | No brag, Just fact. | Wed Feb 28 1990 12:19 | 58 |
| >> Do you think strengthening particular muscles is the key?
>> If so, is it the key to distance only or a better all around game?
>> And if it you feel that only particular muscles need to be strengthened,
>> which ones?
It all depends on what your goals are. Do you just want to increase
your distance, or do you want to improve your game. There are a lot
of muscles in your body you don't use when golfing (especially if
you ride). If you think your game is good but you just like to get
a few extra yards out of your hits then maybe what you want to do
is just do upperback and shoulder exercises.
>> Do you think conditioning the entire body is the key?
Personally I think you should condition the whole body for a couple
of reasons.
. Not only do you have to swing the club, but you may have to
walk the course also. So what good is it just to consentrate
on upperbody muscles it you're going to do a lot of walking.
. Also golf isn't just going out and hitting a ball then walk
a little and hit a ball again (well maybe for some of you
real good golfers it is but I'm just a hacker). Not only do
you have to hit the ball and walk a little, but you may also
have to carry a bag. And when you hit the ball how often does
it land where you want it (if you're me, not too often). So now
you go off into the woods and step into 6" hole. If you're in
poor shape this little slip could turn into a big injury. If
you're in shape it may prevent this from becomming a major
injury. I know this guy who golfs alot and is in real bad
shape (weighs over 300 lbs, mostly fat). He always rides a
cart. Well one time he hit his ball into the woods and tripped
over a log and couldn't get up. He didn't break anything, he
just couldn't get up.
>> Do you think cardiovascular exercise is a big help for golfers?
It may not help your game, but you do need it. Golf really isn't a
very good cardiovascular exercise unless you walk 18 holes 4 days
a week.
>> Do you think flexibility is the key?
>> If so, is it the key to distance only or a better all around game?
Flexibility is very important. I found when I weightlift that
in order for me to not ruin my golf game I have to do streaching
exercises to help my flexibility.
>> Do you think that a good combination of all the above is the key?
I think a good combination of all the above is the key. A person who's
a good athlete can pick up golf or any sport easier then one who isn't.
My wife is one. She's only been playing the game for about 3 years and
now has a 9 hdcp for 9 holes. She's only 5'4" and can hit a drive
about 230-250yds. She's played sports all her life (racquetball,
softball, swimming etc...). Her 3rd time out golfing she broke 50 for
9 holes (at Amherst CC).
Mike
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| 179.17 | Muscles or Timing?? | CHEFS::NEWPORTP | | Wed Feb 28 1990 12:43 | 16 |
| Conditioning the whole body??
Cardiovascular exercise??
Try telling that to the 'Walrus' or our own Russell Claydon.
They don't look like they'd put Carl Lewis under too much
pressure to me!! I've heard that they even carry their caddies
under their arm on practice days :-)
A lot of the distance comes from timing, something the pro's have
an abundance of. If only I knew where you could buy that stuff!!
Phil.
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| 179.18 | | SQGUK::NOCK | Bold talk for a one-eyed fatman | Thu Mar 01 1990 05:00 | 14 |
| Timing's the main thing, as with all "bat"-ball games. Off the tee and
off the fariway, timing is vastly more important than just brute
strength.
Muscle helps in thick rough to shift the thing! Timing doesn't come
into play much when half of this green and pleasant land is between the
ball and clubface.
Some kind of stamina is useful for walking the course so that you're
not cream-crackered by the time you get to 16, 17 and 18. At least
it'll give you a chance of swinging the club like you did on the first
tee.
Paul
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| 179.19 | It ain't strength, for sure | RUBIK::SELL | Peter Sell UIA/ADG - 830 3966 | Thu Mar 01 1990 06:01 | 8 |
| At my wife's club there is a well-represented section of ladies in their 70s.
They are too frail to go out in wind force 5 or above for fear of being blown
away. They cannot hit 250 yard drives. Yet they play in the 80s.
Why? Because they can make the club do the work and because they could thread
a ball through one ear of a stuffed elephant and out the other.
Peter (who-wishes-he-could-play-as-well-as-a-septagenarian)
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| 179.20 | Just Do it ! | WALTA::LENEHAN | | Thu Mar 01 1990 08:39 | 30 |
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I believe a good golf swing will bring you good distance.
I have been doing weight training 3 times a week over the last 5
months. My friends and I went to the cape a couple weks ago and
played eighteen. The course we played was "Round Hill", it's a very
hilly course. The only things I noticed between end of last season
play, and now is;
After 18 holes carrying my golf bag, last season I would have
been a little worn... but to no real surprise, I felt fresh.
The one major difference in my swing is more control of the
long irons/woods. Last year I would fade my long irons, but after
doing a lot of wrist curls, and grip strengthening... it felt
awesome! I really could swing my 3 iron as if it were a wedge
and not worry about the clubhead coming around late causing a
fade. One of my weak spots last season was long par 3's. At
the cape thay had a par 3 220 yard, I was a little aprehensive
about taking out the 3 iron... I usually start it out left
and try to fade it in to the green. But all day my one wood was
going straight, so I aimed at the pin. The ball flew straight
sticking 10 feet right and scored me my first birdie of the decade.
Excercise can only help. Sure there are numerous golfers who never
excercise, but who compete. Just think how good Stadler might be
if he had more freedom of movement?
Walt
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