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| 119.1 | Suspicious? | NANUCK::REHOR | I'd rather be golfing | Sat Jun 13 1987 00:32 | 26 |
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I'm suspicious you're not superstitious.
Your set looks like mine, except I carry a 4 wood. The other options
are a 2 iron, a chipper, and an R-90 (highly lofted wedge).
The question is what do you do best?, or what type of shots do you
end up playing most.
If you can't hit a 3 iron consistently straight, then a two iron
would be worse. If you can't get your long and medium irons on the
green, then you may be chipping and pitching alot, a chipper would
be better. If you're really short off the tee, and play alot of
fairway woods, the 4 wood might be a great in between club. As
for the highly lofted wedge, my partner carries one (he's a three
handicap), but doesn't use it much anymore. It's not an easy club
to hit. He hit the ball so far that he needed a club for closer in.
If you are new to the game, play with the ones you have for a while.
Pretty soon you'll be saying to yourself, " I wish I had a _____
for this shot." If you say that fairly often about the same club,
then you've answered your own question.
Good luck.
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| 119.2 | 60� wedge - try one! | STKHLM::LITBY | You're away! | Sat Jun 13 1987 19:58 | 19 |
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I suggest you get yourself a 60-degree wedge. This is what I use
as a ``confidence-building'' club - it's great for short little
pitches around the green that you have to hit over bunkers,
streams, tree stubs or other nasty stuff that blocks your path to
the flag. It's a hard club to hit if you try using it like a
``shorter wedge'' - i.e for hitting 50-60 metre shots high in the
air, but I don't use it that way. Use it when you need a high
lofted short shot that you want to stop right at the pin, up to a
maximum distance of 10-20 m.
You'll love the result if you use a short slow backswing - watch
how the ball takes off straight up in the air and lands softly!!
The one I use, a PowerBilt ``Renewal'' has a generous flange
(bounce) so it's excellent for bunker play - in fact, I don't use a
sand iron at all.
-- POL
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| 119.3 | Another choice perhaps? | WORDS::NISKALA | Man..... or Myth???? | Wed Jun 17 1987 15:21 | 10 |
| Depending on how you hit your woods, er metals, you might want
to get yourself a 7 wood. Myself, I don't hit my long irons well.
3 iron about 170-180 and my 5 wood is about 210. Big void spot in
there. I shouldn't talk though, 'cause I keep telling myself to
get the 7 wood, but haven't as of yet. Looking at the previous replies,
it's up to you to decide, you know what the choices are. Just don't
get a 1 iron, because as the joke goes: "Even God can't hit a 1
iron."
Keith
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| 119.4 | SEVEN WOOD FOR 14TH CLUB | RUNT2::SAURI | | Fri Jun 19 1987 10:11 | 8 |
| I WOULD AGREE WITH HAVING A SEVEN OR MAYBE A HIGHER WOOD CLUB
LIKE A GINTY. NOT ONLY ARE THEY EASY TO HIT IN THE FAIRWAY BUT THEY
ALSO COME IN HANDY WHEN YOU ARE IN THE ROUGH. I WOULD SAY A SEVEN
WOOD IS EQUAL TO FOUR OR A FIVE IRON DEPENDING ON HOW YOU HIT THE
BALL. TRY ONE OUT AT YOUR LOCAL PRO SHOP AND SEE IF YOU CAN HIT
FIRST. GOOD LUCK AND LET ME KNOW HOW YOU MADE OUT.
ARMANDO RUNT2::SAURI
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| 119.5 | 2-iron a no-no | RDGE00::MARSHALL | Steve Marshall, EURO ADG(UK) | Fri Jun 19 1987 12:04 | 24 |
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Well, I feel that there is a gap between my woods and my long
irons that needs filling by something. But, as I am a new player
I generally don't hit the green straight off, though it has
been known. So quite a lot of my game is spent chipping around
the green. I have tried out a 2-iron. That is one bitch of a
club to hit well. So I think that is out. If I go for a filler
for the gap, it won't be a 2-iron! The 60� wedge sounds well
interesting to me. Maybe I should look more closely at this.
Anyone have any comparisons between the following :
Standard Pitching Wedge
Sand Iron
60� Wedge
as regards to playability (hitting the ball clean)
loft etc.
ADVthanksANCE
Steve.
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| 119.6 | Why get a 14th at all????? | GLIVET::HUSTON | | Mon Jun 22 1987 22:29 | 20 |
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Why get a 14th club. It just makes your bad that much heavier.
I have the exact set up as you except no sand iron. I just use
my pitching wedge from the sand, works great. Since you are new
I would say don't get anything at least not for awhile. Then if
you do decide to add I suggest forgetting about clubs like the 7
wood and high lofted woods. These, in my opinion are just clubs
that give you a way around hitting the correct shot. 7wd is the
same as say a 4-5 iron so why get one, just hit the 4-5 iron.
The 60 degree wedge is simply a way around learning to hit a pitching
wedge with half to 3/4 of a swing. Easy to do, just takes some
practice.
In my opinion you should learn to correctly use the clubs you have,
then if you still want another club I would suggest a 4 wood. From
playing with many different people this seems to be the most popular
and there have been times when I wish I had one instead of having
to really lay into a 5 wood or lay off a 3 wood.
--Bob (handicap 8)
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| 119.7 | Mad Man's Remedy | DIXIE1::WESTCL | Gator Golfer | Tue Jun 23 1987 00:10 | 5 |
| Go and find an old beat-up club. Any wood or iron will do. Stick
it in your bag and when you get totally fustrated take it out and
beat the hell out of it.
Good luck.
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| 119.8 | Eureka! | STKHLM::LITBY | Where EAGLES dare... | Tue Jun 23 1987 08:52 | 7 |
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re .7:
I LOVE it...
-- POL
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| 119.9 | How about this?? | WORDS::NISKALA | Man..... or Myth???? | Thu Jun 25 1987 18:32 | 8 |
| How about getting a lefthanded club for those shots when your
pinned against a tree for a normal righty shot. You end up hitting
the ball lefthanded anyways and it means using your 3 iron backwards.
Does anybody do this?? It is legal, right?? There have many times,
too many actually, when I needed that lefty club. Probably can pick
up a 3-5 iron second hand in most pro shops.
Keith
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| 119.10 | | VINO::RASPUZZI | Michael Raspuzzi | Thu Jun 25 1987 20:39 | 15 |
| As far as leaglities go -
It does not matter *what* clubs you have in your bag. You can have
a wonderful mixed bag of left handed and right handed clubs. As
long as the total number of clubs does not exceed 14 you are set.
About hitting a right handed 3 iron - it's perfectly legal. Nicklaus
even suggests it in one of his books. As long as you strike the
ball with the face of the club it's OK.
I know of a couple of friends who carry a left handed 5 iron (a
little easier to hit than a 3 iron) for just such a tree type of
emergency.
Mike
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| 119.11 | Total Contradiction | HEFTY::WELLSPEAK | It's a Boy | Mon Jun 29 1987 19:48 | 22 |
| RE .6
Boy is that contradiction or what!!! First you say that
getting a 60 degree wedge is just an excuse for not learning how
to hit a half or 3/4 pitching wedge. Tell that to your local Pro
and I'll bet on what he'll say. Then you say to get a 4 wood, because
you don't want to lay off a 3 wood or beef up a 5 wood. Using the
same logic you used for not getting a 60 degree wedge, thats just
an excuse for not learning how to hit a half or 3/4 3 wood!!!
Ant Pro will tell you that once your good enough, every swing should
be as close as possible to being the same with each club. And that
if possible, getting a club that allows you to take a full swing,
as opposed to taking a half or 3/4 swing, will only help your game.
I'm not saying that a 60 degree wedge, or a 2 iron is for everybody,
but the reasons you gave, are rediculous. The way you sound, you
should save yourself some money and play with only a 3, 5, 7, 9
irons and a driver and 4 wood and just learn how to hit each club
full, 3/4 and half!!!
PS: This isn't meant to be rude, just stressing
a point.
Beak
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| 119.12 | | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Tue Jul 07 1987 18:05 | 29 |
| Anyone remember Dick Mayer? I think he won the U.S. Open in 1957
or somewhere around then. Anyway, after winning one of the big tour-
naments, he did what so many people do: he wrote a book about how
to play golf. Since I was reading all the books on golf I could
find, I read it. (By the time I got through, I was about as confused
as anyone could be, as you can imagine.) Anyway, about all I can
remember from Mayer's book was his assertion that it's perfectly
feasible to shoot a respectable round of golf with as few as four
clubs: 3-wood, 5-iron, 8-iron & putter. I never tried it myself
(though I did take only 1/2 a set on vacation, and managed to do
okay, by my standards anyway); but earlier this year, I ran across
a couple of guys who were playing a full-sized 18-hole course with
one (1) club apiece: one guy had a 6-iron, and the other had a 7!
Each of them managed to shoot in the mid-90's, which was (according
to them) about 10 strokes higher than normal. Apparently there are
clubs that have gimmick tournaments, one of them being a "one-club"
format.
As for which 14 to carry goes, I am probably a major offender when
it comes to duplication, since I carry both a 5-wood and a 2-iron
(1,3,5 woods, 2-pw,sw, putter); but there are times when it just
seems "right" to use one and not the other. For example, I would
feel silly hitting a low chip shot with a 5-wood, but I've saved
holes by knocking a 2-iron from under low-hanging branches onto
the green. My feeling about a 3rd wedge is, I have enough trouble
hitting the wedges I've already got - why increase the misery?
And if I find myself up against a tree (where a lefty club might
be used), I take an unplayable lie...
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| 119.13 | Not really a contradiction | GLIVET::HUSTON | | Wed Jul 08 1987 19:35 | 34 |
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re .11
Your point is well taken. Let me further clarify what I mean.
No matter what clubs you carry you are sometimes going to find yourself
between two clubs, in which case you have 2 options:
1) Hit one harder than usual
2) Lay off one.
In my opinion I would rather learn to lay off a wedge than a wood.
Even with a 60 degree wedge you still will have to hit 1/2 and
3/4 wedges. Let me explain.
A full wedge will go around 100 yards (average). Anything inside
that and you have to lay off it. That is alot of different distances
to learn to hit. Even with a 60 degree wedge, which will go maybe
80 yards (a rough guess) you still are going to have to learn to
hit half wedges.
With a wood there is only about a 10 - 20 yard gap between clubs,
by inserting the extra wood you take out the need to hit woods of
varying strengths. Thus allowing you to take the same swing with
all clubs.
So with or without the extra wedge you still have to hit half wedges
and if you don't have to hit half woods why should you. I agree
that you should try and make every swing the same, I believe that
it would be easier to do this by adding another wood rather that
a wedge.
Your point is well taken though.
--Bob
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| 119.14 | A few more points for thw Wedge | HEFTY::WELLSPEAK | It's a Boy | Wed Jul 08 1987 22:19 | 16 |
| Bob, I hit my PW, on average, about 130 yards. I hit my
SW, on average, about 60 to 65 yards. Now I could hit my SW
probably about 90 yards, but would have to swing extremely hard
to do so. Being that the most important factor in the short game
is accuracy, not the only factor, but the most important factor,
you are defeating the purpose, by having to "Kill" a shot. Now
with the long clubs, woods and 5 thru 1 irons, the most important
factor is distance, not the only factor, but the most important.
This allows you to take a rip at it a little more.
Another thing is this. What does the average golfer do more
of? Hit wedges and short irons, or woods and long irons? And what
does he expect to accomplish with each particular shot? I myself,
miss a lot of greens, and hit more SW's, PW's and 9 irons, than
I do fairway woods or 2 or 3 irons. What do you do more of Bob?
Beak
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| 119.15 | You backup what I am trying to say | GLIVET::HUSTON | | Thu Jul 09 1987 16:45 | 21 |
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Beak, Thanks for the reply, a little nicer and more conversational
tone than the first. I believe that what you say is true, I also
believe that you back up what I am trying to say. The most important
thing with the longer clubs is distance, though accuracy is very
important. Let explain. A small degree off from 200 yards could
end up 20 yards or so from the green, here with your SW you have
to hit the half wedge. In the case of hitting a hard wedge a small
degree off could still end up on the green or real close. I would
rather have the extra club at the long end hence be closer to the
green in more occasions.
Even in the distances that you quote (130 pw; 60-65 sw) you must
have to hit alot of half wedges (anything between 110 - 75 or 55
and in). What I tried to state in my original reply way that in
my opinion it would be better to learn to hit this half shot with
the wedge, which you will have to do anyway, rather than learn to
hit the half wedge and a half a long iron.
Bob
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| 119.16 | 60 degree unpredictable for me | MDVAX1::TATUM | | Thu Aug 06 1987 01:30 | 14 |
| I carry a 60 degree wedge but hardly use it anymore because it is
so unpredictable. Open the face a little too much and you get a
cut shot with no distance... close the face a little too much and
get a shot over the green... hit it with the ball sitting up high
and cut entirely beneath the ball... It is great for 'special effects'
but not very dependable for me.
I need all the short game help I can get, but have found partial sand
wedges to be much more predictable than full 60 degree wedges.
What about some of the new 64 degree wedges?!?!
PS. I too find a gap between my 3 iron and 5 wood and am considering
to putting a 2 iron back in my bag.
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