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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
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102.0. "Questions from a beginner" by APEHUB::FITZPATRICK () Fri Apr 10 1987 23:05

Hi again,

	I started playing golf 2 years ago, and I've progressed, mostly by trial
and error, to the point where I'm good enough to enjoy the game and make the 
ocassional par or birdie.  I read "Golf My Way" by Jack Nicklaus last year, and 
it helped tremendously.  This year I got "The Modern Fundamentals of Golf" by 
Ben Hogan and I can't wait to try out some of his ideas.
	I can't help thinking, though, that my game would improve immensely with
a lesson or two.  Can anyone suggest somewhere in the Boston/Maynard area where 
I might be able take lessons?  How much should I expect to pay?
	Also, can anyone tell me anything about public courses in the 
Brookline/Newton area (or anywhere within an hour from there)?

Thanks for the info,
Tom

PS.  Just one more question.  What exactly is a "Nassau"?  I know it's some sort
     of bet, but that's all.  It seems to be one of those terms that's so well 
     known that it's not explained anywhere.
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102.1Maybe in FitchburgCHAMP::KEVINKevin O'BrienMon Apr 13 1987 20:0833
    Tom,
    
    	I don't know too much about the Maynard area but the is an
    excellent teaching pro in Fitchburg.  Jim O'Leary at Oak Hill Country
    Club.  He taught me how to play.  I don't know if he still takes
    non members or how much he charges, but I do know he's a great teacher.
    If you see him tell him that Kevin R. says hi and that the swing
    is the best it's been since I left.
    
    	As for the Nassua....  It's really 3 bets.  One match on the
    front nine, one match for the back nine and the sum of those 2 for
    the match.  For example....  We have a $2 nassau you win the front
    by 2 (your 2 up after nine).  Then we play the back and I win by
    1 (for that 9 holes I'm 1 up).  Then the money goes this way.  You
    win $2 for the front,  I win $2 for the back (so that's a wash no
    money) but you win $2 for the match 2 up on the front 1 down on
    the back you win the match by +1.  That's not too complicated until
    you consider a press.  The person whose loosing can press for the
    nine.  (dependng upon the agreements that the combatants have) 
    If, for example in our match above, I'm 3 down after the third hole.
    Instead of slashing my wrists, I press on the fourth tee.  That
    means that we will play a match from 4 through 9 for an additional
    $2.  The result of that would be that you win the front +2, but
    since you were 3 up at the time of the press I won the press +1
    then there is no money because we each won a bet on that 9.  Depending
    upon how often there is a press it can get real confusing.  I've
    been in several matches where we had it going 16 ways on 18 only
    to have someone pull a Larry Mize for 8 of those bets and I needed 
    to make a 5 footer to no loose the other 8.
    
    Good luck enjoy the game!
    
    					KO
102.2Newton/Brookline golf sceneADVAX::CLOSEMon Apr 13 1987 20:0727
    Hi Tom. Your story could be my story. I took up the game 2 years
    ago after a 15 year hiatus. Actually, when I was a teenager I played
    only a short par 3 course, so I'm fairly new to the "real" game.
    The only way to get good (which I'm not, yet. I shoot about 88-95)
    is to play often. Last year I played over 100 times, and took about
    15 strokes off my game. Books help only marginally.
    
    Second, take some lessons from Dick Hanscom at Leo J Martin Memorial
    course (MDC-run) in Weston right next to the Pike. It's about 15
    minutes from Brookline. I think Dick charges $20 for a half-hour.
    Or you can sign up for a complete series of lessons from him at
    a reduced rate. I took three to get back into it. My friend who
    played for the first time last year took the whole series for $120
    or something, and he's down in the mid-90s now. Dick is an excellent
    teacher. Tell him I sent you.
    
    I'm in Brookline. I play at Newton Commonwealth ($11 for nonresidents)
    on Kendrick St. behind BC. It's short, very steep, and tricky. Also,
    Putterham Meadows, next to The Country Club, is Brookline's public
    course. It's a nice layout, but not well-maintained. George Wright
    in Hyde Park is just plain wonderful. 
    
    Now that the season is underway I'll play some mornings at 5:30
    at Putterham before work. I put in a fast nine holes. Call me sometime
    and we'll hit around.
    
    DC
102.3GOLF PRO!!MPGS::PERCUOCOThu Apr 16 1987 15:280
102.4Words to golf byAUTHOR::F_MCGOWANSat Jun 20 1987 13:3028
    Did you find a teacher yet? If not, and you are restricted to books
    as your primary source of advice, I'll recommend "How To Play Your
    Best Golf All The Time," by Tommy Armour. It was first published
    back in the early 50's, but (needless to say) fundamentals don't
    change too much from decade to decade. After wading through damned
    near everything ever printed on golf, and getting myself hopelessly
    befuddled (I couldn't afford a teacher at the time), I finally stumbled
    onto Armour's book back in the 60's and it has been my golf bible
    ever since. I gave it to my wife when she started playing this year,
    and to a friend who recently took up the game, and they both love
    it. Using Armour (and some tips from yours truly), my wife is now
    shooting in the low 50's for 9 (had a 49 a couple of weeks back),
    and her swing is a thing of beauty. My friend has not progressed
    quite so rapidly, mostly because of limited practice and playing
    opportunities, but I'm sure as he applies Armour's principles his
    scoring and strokemaking will show results.
    
    By the way, one of the reasons he's had limited opportunities is
    because I'm his sole source of golfing partners; I'm sure he'd
    welcome the chance to meet others of more or less the same level
    (near beginner) to play with. At this point, he doesn't have the
    confidence to go to the course solo and hook up with a group of
    strangers; and I'm just not available enough for him to get out
    and get the playing time he needs. If you want more info (or if
    anyone reading this note wants more), RSVP. Thanks.
    
    	Frank
    
102.5You learn something new everydayAPEHUB::FITZPATRICKWed Jun 24 1987 22:2239
Hi Gang!

	I kept putting of the lessons, and basically getting nowhere for a few 
weeks.  A few weekends ago, a friend and I went out and, by the 16th hole,
I had managed to get my slice down to a fade (side note:  The 16 hole at 
Newton-Commonwealth is a slight dogleg right, with the fairway ending rather 
abruptly and an elevated green.  My beautiful drive faded perfectly down the 
middle of the fairway, giving me a nice 8-iron to the green, but while I was in 
the woods helping my friend find his drive, someone stole my ball!  Why do 
people do that?), but I still knew that somthing wasn't right.  I finally 
relented and went for a lesson at the Wayland CC, with an assistant pro, Dick 
Naas.  I had another commitment that evening, so I only took a half-hour lesson.
It was easily the most productive 30 minutes of my golfing life.
	I had originally intended just to see what a lesson was like, to decide 
if I wanted to take a series of several.  As it turned out, Dick was able to 
show me exactly why I was slicing the ball, and what to do to correct it.
It'll still take some getting used to the new swing, and I can't hit it quite as
far as I used to, but I'm sure that'll come with practice.
	It seems that all I have to do now is just relax and swing the way Dick 
showed me, and I'll be down in the 80's in no time (8-).  Seriously.  I played 
the weekend after my lesson, and started out with 3 bogeys.  The highlight of 
the day, though, was the 18th hole.  My friend and I ran into 2 women (one was 
quite cute (8-) ) who had just played a round and wanted to play the 18th again.
I thought we were in trouble when these women suggested that we play for a beer,
but we agreed.  I teed off first, being sure to do what Dick had told me to.  
The drive went quite a ways straight down the middle of the fairway.  I 
used the same methodical aproach on the next two shots and was on the green in 3
(par 5).  My 20-foot birdie putt missed by inches, but I made the par.  It's 
holes like that that make you keep playing.  The cuter of our opponents was on 
in 4 and sunk a 25-30 foot putt for her par, but my partner came through and we 
won the beers.  That can also help you keep playing (8-).  Notice I didn't tell 
any of you how I did from the 4th to the 17th holes.
	I guess consistency is the magic word, huh?

Thanks for the help gang,
- Tom

PS.  I'll be out of action for a few weeks with a sprained ankle (softball 
mishap), so think of me while you're out on the links.
102.6Womens Club For a 13 year oldBTOQA::SHANEMon Jan 13 1992 09:2916
    
    I thought this would be a good place to put this:
    
    My daughter is 13, and just hit 5ft this year.  The last few years
    she has gone out with me 3-4 times a year and played from the 150 yd
    markers, hitting with the Jr. set I bought her 3 years back.
    
    Is someone her age and size ready for a set of womens clubs?  I hope
    to get her more playing time this year, so the investment makes sense
    if she can handle the larger clubs.
    
    I'm asking because Austads has a great sale on a beginners set.  They 
    list the 3 iron as measuring 37-1/2".  What do you club fitters think?
    
    Shane