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Title:TurboLaser Notesfile - AlphaServer 8200 and 8400 systems
Notice:Welcome to WONDER::TURBOLASER in it's new homeshortly
Moderator:LANDO::DROBNER
Created:Tue Dec 20 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1218
Total number of notes:4645

1119.0. "compet: new HP V series" by ROM01::OLD_CIPOLLA (Bruno Cipolla) Thu Feb 27 1997 08:59

+                HP TO DEBUT PA-8200 IN V SERIES 

Hewlett-Packard Co is preparing a new range of high-end V 
Series symmetrical multiprocessing systems using its PA-8200 
RISC chip, according to our sister newsletter Unigram.X. The 
servers are due in April, at the same time as the expected T600 
data center servers using the PA-8000 (CI No 3,105). It's 
unclear yet as to whether the V Series systems, described as 
mainframe alternatives suitable for high end online transaction 
processing and very large database applications, will come out 
through Hewlett- Packard's commercial server group or through 
its Convex Computer Corp subsidiary. The V series is being 
positioned as the vehicle for getting to Merced, Intel Corp's 
next-generation 64-bit processor. Convex's current Exemplar X 
and S series units aren't expected to be upgradable to Merced. 
The V Series will run the 64-bit 11.0 version of HP-UX, the 
company's first foray into 64- bit Unix, and it will be able to 
run today's 32-bit applications as well. The boxes are expected 
to perform five times faster than the commercial T Series, 
although not in their first iterations. Last June 
Hewlett-Packard was saying it would be about a year before the 
Convex technology would find its way into commercial systems 
(CI No 2,943). The 220MHz PA-8200 is the second member of the 
64-bit Precision Architecture RISC 2.0 family, which can be 
supplemented with 2Mb SRAM off-chip cache. The chip has a 
benchmarked performance rating of 15.5 SPECint95 and 25 
SPECfp95.
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1119.1`up to five times faster, but not yet'XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon Mar 03 1997 14:0913
   I really like the `up to five times faster, but not yet' part.  That's
   certainly good marketing...   We could certainly counter-offer `up to
   ten times faster, but not yet'.  :-)

   Lots of smoke and vapor, with two migrations lurking in the customer's
   near-future upgrade path...  Sounds like fun...

   And if I really want to get to Merced, why not go to Intel now?
   If I really want 64 bits and/or Microsoft, Linux/Alpha, Linux/Intel,
   NT/Alpha, and NT/Intel are all available now, and Linux and NT will
   very likely be ported to Merced shortly after Merced's availability.