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Title:TurboLaser Notesfile - AlphaServer 8200 and 8400 systems
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Created:Tue Dec 20 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1218
Total number of notes:4645

1075.0. "^P, console jump to "Eh ?"" by HGTIMA::CSCHAN () Tue Jan 28 1997 04:17

   We simulated "force crash dump" by ^p  but the console jumps into 
   the debugger mode. 

   The system experienced system hang a week ago and missed the dump 
   file during that events. We really need a valid dump if system hang 
   again, so we performed this "force crash dump" process during the 
   system was normal running to make sure this action work. However, 
    the console jumps into the debugger mode in our first testing.

   I would appreciate if someone can advise:

   - Why did it got unexpected exception/interrupt through vetor 8A0
     and jumps into the debugger mode? 

   - What we can do if we face such situation again as system hang?   
     I read some notes mentioned ";P" can exit the debugger mode.
     Can we still get a vaild dump by "crash" command?

   
   
For reference: Part of the console is as follows :

	.
	halted CPU 0
	CPU 1 is not halted
	CPU 2 is not halted
	CPU 3 is not halted
	
	halt code =1
	operator initiated halt
	PC = fffffc0000380f50
	Punexpected exception/interrupt through vetor 8A0
	Unexpected IO device interrupt : 8A)
	prcoess timer, pcb = 0010f240

	 .
	 .				; dump pc, ps,r2, r5,r3,r6,r4,r7
	 .                              ; registers.
 
	 .
	 Brk 0 at 000656F4
	 000656F4 ! BPT
	 Eh ?
	 Eh ?

	Then we reset the machine.

	We did the test again by pressing ^p after system was booted up.
	Then it seemed to be normal again. As we see the prompt "p00>>>"
	We typed "crash" and the system was dumping normally.


Best regards, C.S.
    
                                                                 
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1075.1AFW3::MAZURTue Jan 28 1997 10:0918
>   We simulated "force crash dump" by ^p  but the console jumps into 
>   the debugger mode. 


Why do you say this is a simulated crash?  Did you do something other than
a normally supported ^P which could be followed by a >>>CONT.  Or do
you mean that you were going to get to >>> and then issue a CRASH
command.

Do you know what was different the time you ^P'ed and got the 8A0 interrupt
problem as compared to times when you successfully ^P.

When you ^P, you should have entered console at elevated IPL, and you 
should not have received any interrupts.  An 8A0 looks like it might be
an interrupt from some IO device, but I am not sure it matters.  The
console should not have dropped its interrupt level below 31 and allowed
in any interrupts.

1075.2Normal ^PHGTIMA::CSCHANWed Jan 29 1997 01:0942
       RE: 1075.1

>Why do you say this is a simulated crash?  Did you do something other than
>a normally supported ^P which could be followed by a >>>CONT.  Or do
>you mean that you were going to get to >>> and then issue a CRASH
>command.

Please forget the words "simulated crash". I just meant doing a normally 
supported ^P. I expected a ">>>" prompt came back, then I can type CRASH
to get a dump file. 

In this case, after we typed in ^P, the console has never come back a ">>>" 
prompt but got the following printout immediately:  

	.
	halted CPU 0
	CPU 1 is not halted
	CPU 2 is not halted
	CPU 3 is not halted
	
	halt code =1
	operator initiated halt
	PC = fffffc0000380f50
	Punexpected exception/interrupt through vetor 8A0
	Unexpected IO device interrupt : 8A)
	prcoess timer, pcb = 0010f240

	 .
	 .				; dump pc, ps,r2, r5,r3,r6,r4,r7
	 .                              ; registers.
 
	 .
	 Brk 0 at 000656F4
	 000656F4 ! BPT
	 Eh ?
	 Eh ?

	Then we reset the machine.

Regards, C.S.
    
1075.3CLOUD::MAZURWed Jan 29 1997 09:1665
o When the system hung, was it crashing or was it up and normally operating?
o Did it hang while trying to crash dump?
o What was the boot device?
o What is the dump device?

Next time you have access to that system in console mode, issue a
">>> show conf -v" command and capture that if you can.  This will
display the interrupt vectors the console uses.  These vectors may be
totally unrelated to the event because the 8A0 vector was probably
assigned by Unix and not by console and so we cannot relate it back to
a device.  But just for yuks, issue the ">>> show conf -v".  It will
look something like:

P00>>>show conf -v

        Name                  Type   Rev  Mnemonic   Vector
  TLSB
  0++   KN7CE-AB              8014  0000  kn7ce-ab0    002
  4+    MS7CC                 5000  0000  ms7cc0       100
  6+    KFTHA                 2000  0000  kftha0       800
  8+    KFTIA                 2020  0A02  kftia0       db0

  C0 Internal PCI connected to kftia0     pci0    
  0+    ISP1020           10201077  0001  isp0         0df
  1+    ISP1020           10201077  0001  isp1         0e3
  2+    DECchip 21040-AA     21011  0023  tulip0       0e7
  4+    ISP1020           10201077  0001  isp2         0ef
  5+    ISP1020           10201077  0001  isp3         0f3
  6+    DECchip 21040-AA     21011  0023  tulip1       0f7

  C1 PCI connected to kftia0              pci1    
  0+    SIO                4828086  0005  sio0         111
  6+    VGA                  D1011  0022  vga0         12a
  7+    DEC PCI FDDI         F1011  0001  pfi0         12e

    Controllers on SIO                    sio0    
  0+    DECchip 21040-AA     21011  0024  tulip2       116
  1+    FLOPPY                   2  0000  floppy0      007
  2+    KBD                      3  0000  kbd0         006
  3+    MOUSE                    4  0000  mouse0       003

    EISA connected to pci1 through sio0   eisa0   

  C8 XMI connected to kftha0              xmi0    
  1+    DEMNA                  C03  0803  demna0       880
  2+    CIXCD                  C2F  0811  cixcd0       8c0
  3+    DEMFA                  823  0521  demfa0       900
  8+    DWLMA                 102A  020A  dwlma0       940
  E+    KZMSA                  C36  5256  kzmsa0       980

  C10 FBUS connected to kftha0            fbus0   
  5+    DWLAA                 2003  0000  dwlaa0       a00
  7+    DEFAA                 2006  0000  defaa0       a40