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Conference napalm::musclecars

Title:Musclecars
Notice:Noter Registration - Note 5
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Mon Mar 11 1991
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:182
Total number of notes:5467

125.0. "frame rail connectors .. for 67 camaro" by YEOLD::PROVENCAL () Tue Nov 30 1993 06:21

    Does anyone know where I could get some frame rail connectors for
    a 67 camaro?  My husband is concerned about the play in the unibody
    especially since it's a ragtop...
    
    Thanks,
    
    Cathi P
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125.1I hated blowing my own doors off.VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Nov 30 1993 14:1913
    How appropriate.  I put in a query such as yours a while back.  
    
    Try the following:
    Alston Engineering 916-381-3291
    Chassis Engineering 800-327-9402
    ChassisWorks        916-635-6751 (the tech line, talk to them)
    
    Make sure you get the proper type.  Ask what needs to be done to
    the car to accept the connectors.  I didn't like hearing about moving
    the springs inboard or tubing the back of my car.  I wanted a good
    pair of weld-in ones.  DON'T get the bolt on ones.
    
    Mad Mike
125.2exCOMET::COSTAI'm crushing your heads!Tue Nov 30 1993 17:5210
    
     Most weld in ones I've seen require some sort of surgery to the rear
    spring hangers. Why don't you just put the bolt in ones on the car and
    then weld those to the existing sub frames? Best of both worlds, maybe?
    Or better yet, find a race chassis fabricator in your neighborhood and
    have them fabricate some connectors out of 2x3 square tubing. May end
    up being cheaper than messing with the pre-fab units.
    
     Tony
    
125.3Call LarryCXCAD::C_WILLIAMSHammerThu Dec 02 1993 15:3912
    
    Hi Cathi!
    
    If your engine isn't HEAVILY modified, I wouldn't mess with it.  If it
    is a big block, then ~perhaps~ you'll want to do it, depending on how
    modified it is and how you drive it.
    
    Want Camaro info?  Talk to Larry Christensen of "Camaros Plus" in
    Denver.  His work number is 303-420-6229.  Tell him I passed on his
    number.  His life is restoring and sometimes modifying Camaros.  He
    WHEELS & deals all over the country.  He's got some of the most
    prestine, cleanest, rarest Camaro's you could ever dream of.
125.4Have them custom built by a chassis shop.VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyWed Apr 27 1994 14:5617
    I went to a race shop yesterday and BS'ed with the owner for a while.
    He'll custom bend some boxed steel to fit my car.  We also discussed
    the installation of a roll cage.  Even still he said he couldn't guarantee 
    the structural integrity of my car, and said if I ever go on my head I'd 
    be toast anyways.
    
    He said something also which I always knew in the back of my mind, but
    when GM (or ford or mopar) designs something they put parts in places
    for a reason.  Moving the springs to accomodate the frame rails isn't
    a good way to go.
    
    So I guess the way to go is to have them custom built for your car.
    Even if <major performance company> says they'll fit a <whatever> style
    car, you'd be better off having them made.
    
    FWIW: He'll bend up the steel and weld it in for $350 (frame connectors
    only).                            
125.5$350 ?!?!?TROOA::GILESThu May 12 1994 17:447
    Are we talking frame connectors only for $350 ??? This sounds pricey
    considering you can buy a set for around $100. This leaves $250 for
    welding !!!!!
    
    Keep shopping!
    
    Stan
125.6VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyFri May 13 1994 10:0214
    Stan,
    
    The dude will take 2*3 box steel and bend it to properly fit my chassis. 
    $350 for the complete job.
           
    The problem with the prefab ones is they rarely fit properly, and/or
    they'll require you to screw with the suspension of the car.  Both
    of those options are undesirable.
    
    Judging from the type of hardware (customer cars) he had in his shop, I'd 
    say he's competent to perform the job (i.e. the finished result will be
    effective and professional).
    
    MadMike 
125.7A-haTROOA::GILESFri May 13 1994 17:075
    So these aren't just "frame connectors", this is a complete subframe.
    This makes more sense and seems to be a bargain.
    
    Stan