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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
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2691.0. "R-5 to MC50 Help.." by WMOIS::RAY () Thu Jul 25 1991 13:30

    My question, I'm currently using an R-5 drum machine and an
    MC50 sequencer to write dance stuff.  When doing the drums
    I basically put down a pattern in real time and I have the
    drum machine in Sync with the sequence so that when I press
    play the drum machine plays in time with what I have on the
    sequencer, how do I save the drums to disc so that I can free
    up some memory on the drum machine for more new patterns.
    I hope I said this right.......................
    
    
                                                Thanks
    
                                                   Howard
    
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2691.1VMSSG::DICKINSONSkin GangsterThu Jul 25 1991 13:519
    
    I don't know details of the devices you have, but generally, if they
    support SYSex, couldn't you just dump the contents of the drum machine to 
    the synth and then to disk ?
    
    
    Peter
    
    
2691.2RICKS::SHERMANECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326Thu Jul 25 1991 14:0121
    Does the R5 have a MIDI buld dump feature?  I'd be surprised if it
    doesn't.  The MC50 can store a dump as well as rhythm patterns of its own. 
    And, it can convert rhythm patterns to regular MIDI track info.  But,
    unfortunately, it does not provide a mechanism for converting info from a
    track to rhythm patterns.  It would have been clever of Roland to keep
    the rhythm pattern format standard so that they could be transferred
    between the R5 and the MC50.  I *think* such transfers can be done
    over MIDI between an MC50 and another MC50 (don't quote me).  Don't know 
    about between an MC50 and an R5/R8.
    
    One alternative is to have the MC50 just record whole sections of MIDI
    data from the drums for different songs.  Then, have the MC50 play the
    drums instead of using the R5s internal sequencer.  But, then, don't
    you lose the "humanization" capabilities?  I don't know what gets sent
    out MIDI during "humanization".  If it's time shifting and AT then
    you'll be preserving the feel, though it will no longer vary each time
    you play the song, if I understand things.
    
    I don't have an R5, so usual disclaimers apply.
    
    Steve
2691.3Store the Patterns with the sequencer parts.KADOR::REVERB::HANNAWhat a wonderful world :^)Fri Jul 26 1991 07:484
Why not use the R-5 as an expander ? Play the drum parts via a keyboard and
into the MC50 on a seperate track(s). 

Zayed
2691.4RICKS::SHERMANECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326Fri Jul 26 1991 13:448
    I think the problem with that is that you lose the "humanization"
    features of the R5 if you use (gasp!) a "human" to actually generate
    the info into the MC50 and then have the MC50 control the R5.
    However, this is the way that I do drum tracks a lot of the time.
    The MC50 is designed to pretty much replace much of the editing
    features of a typical drum machine.
    
    Steve