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2686.1 | It Does But One Thing | RGB::ROST | If you don't C#, you might Bb | Mon Jul 22 1991 13:55 | 11 |
| The 303 is a simple mono synthesizer that makes bass noises. It has a
small sequencer on board for writing bass lines, which you can slave to
a drum machine that uses the old SYNC method. As I recall, the synth is
primitive: one oscillator, choice of saw or square wave and a simple
ADSR envelope generator and some type of filtering (i.e., Matty, your
SH-101 is more versatile). It actually *looks* like a Roland drum
machine.
Last one I saw in a want ad here in MA went for a whopping $75.
Brian
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2686.2 | Ah Nostalgia | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556 | Mon Jul 22 1991 17:25 | 8 |
| Yep, the -303 and the -606 were a pair. About the size of that new
Yamaha gadget (i.e., a biggish paperback book, like 2" * 5" * 10"),
all silver/gray plastic. The -606 was my first drum machine, and I
used it for quite a while as "programmable" click track when playing
acoustic drums with sequenced synths.
len.
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2686.3 | A Few TB-303 Specs | RGB::ROST | If you don't C#, you might Bb | Tue Jul 23 1991 08:17 | 12 |
| OK, I dug up an old article on the 303. Here's the poop:
Parameters: cutoff frequency, resonance, envelope mod, decay, accent
Waveform: saw or square
Sequencer: 1024 steps (64 patterns, 16 steps per pattern max), sync in
Outputs: CV and gate to drive external synth, stereo phones, mono line
Keyboard: tiny one octave "chiclet" keys
Power: Six AA batteries or AC adapter
Original U.S. List including carrying case: $395
Brian
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2686.4 | Analogue mad. | IGETIT::BROWNM | Only 18 working days to go | Tue Jul 23 1991 08:26 | 16 |
| re-2, Brian - $75. You couldn't buy one for me and send it over here
could you? ;-)
Everyone seems to be praising this old sync stuff (808, 909, 202, 101,
303) over here. This week it is LFO (a sucessful House/Electro style
project from Leeds - some journalists are hailing them as the new
Kraftwerk) in Sound On Sound magazine. Then there's 808 State who named
themselves after the TR-808. They've had about 5 top 20 hits over here!
I suppose it's a different kettle of fish in the UK.
Does anyone know if the sequencer is step entry only? Even though the
synthesis is simpler than the SH-101, does it sound any worse? Is it
just more limiting? Can it do anything the SH-101 can't?
matty
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2686.5 | Step | RGB::ROST | If you don't C#, you might Bb | Tue Jul 23 1991 09:50 | 10 |
| The sequencer is step only. It stores about 10 times what the SH-101
can store, plus allows chaining "patterns" into "songs", so you could
have multiple songs in memory if the bass lines are pretty simple and
repetitive. But you can't save sequences off to tape!!!
Soundwise, it's basically a preset bass timbre with a couple of
parameters you can mess with. The SH-101 gives you more timbral
control, but whether or not it's better, that's subjective.
Brian
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2686.6 | I OWN ONE! (and switched it on once again..) | UTROP1::BOVENJ | | Tue Jul 30 1991 10:08 | 19 |
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Yes, it's step time entry alright. If you're not very good in timing,
you can first enter the notes in steptime and in a second run "tap" in
the rhythm.
The unit used by the groups is either linked to a Roland 808 or TR-606
(mine is linked to a 606- that's the orginal combination). Then the
combination is MIDI-ed by connecting the 303 SYNC-output with a
SYNC-to-MIDI converter. The 303 built-in synth has the sound quality of
your average portable video-game (read: terrible). Therefore most
owners connect their 303 via the built in GATE and TRIGGER outputs to
similar inputs on old analog gear (in my set-up ARP AVATAR and AXXE).
BTW if you're also a person prepared to pay 300 UK Pounds for it, I
could be tempted into selling mine (including batteries - yes it runs
on batteries!).
ciao
Jeroen
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2686.7 | | RGB::ROST | If you don't C#, you might Bb | Tue Jul 30 1991 10:43 | 8 |
| >Therefore most owners connect their 303 via the built in GATE and
>TRIGGER outputs to similar inputs on old analog gear (in my set-up ARP
>AVATAR and AXXE).
Sounds like they're using it as a cheap MIDI to CV converter sort of...
I'd rather just MIDI up the old ARP myself for 300 pounds!!!!
Brian
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2686.8 | Advantage of Limitation | UTROP1::BOVENJ | | Wed Jul 31 1991 11:16 | 19 |
| Re: .7
Yep, I agree. However this topic was entered based on the fact that the
303 itself is rapidly turning into a collectors item out here in
Europe. I must admid that the "built in limitations" (from a 90-ties
perspective that is) more or less force you into House Music. Other
music style that is easy to achieve: 70-ties German synth music
(Schulze, Tangerine Dream, M. Hoenig, Kraftwerk).
Device that makes those styles even easier to achieve: Oberheims
Cyclone (a full MIDI-ed highly advanced arpeggiator). One of the pieces
of gear that I would miss the most if I would "lose it all"
groetjes,
Jeroen
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2686.9 | Aciiieeeeeeddddddd | IGETIT::BROWNM | Only 18 working days to go | Wed Jul 31 1991 13:46 | 6 |
| Can you get it to do the Acid noises, as per Acid House records? My
SH-101 comes resonably close, but not close enough. I'm going to try a
Juno 106 on Saturday to see if that does the bizz.
matty
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2686.10 | Only Indirect | UTROP1::BOVENJ | | Thu Aug 01 1991 05:29 | 8 |
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Matty,
It's like with a sequencer: you have to hook it up to a synth (see my
previous note) that can produce the Acid H. sound you want. Don't count on
the tb303 itself, it only produces 1 (one) low-quality - slightly editable -
bass preset.
Jeroen
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