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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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Number of topics:2852
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2430.0. "VCA to MIDI" by CURIE::LICHTENSTEIN () Tue Sep 04 1990 13:34

    I was in the market for a device from JL Cooper called the MixMate. It
    was supposed to patch into a mixing board effectively replacing 8 faders
    with  the hardware  (VCA to MIDI faders) that were in the box. They
    have dicontinued the product. This would be VERY helpful in completing
    the automation of my midi synced to an eight track studio. Any hints on
    a product that is out there (or can this thing be custom built?) I
    understand that the quality of the VCA's were NOT the greatest in the
    MixMate. JL Cooper usually puts out top products so I wonder why they
    decided to STOP marketing the Mixmate. I have looked all over for one
    but have had no luck.
    
    
    
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2430.1QUIVER::PICKETTDavid - Will someone in Mass. please vote Republican for me?Tue Sep 04 1990 13:535
    Hmmm. I seems to remeber that JLC hypped the MixMate as having ultra
    high qulity VCAs!! I think thay were by dbx or Valley People. Someone
    help me on this. There must be an old ad copy out there.
    
    dp
2430.2is THIS a waste of disk spaceKEYS::MOELLERcorporation penguinTue Sep 04 1990 15:0518
>                   <<< Note 2430.0 by CURIE::LICHTENSTEIN >>>
>                                -< VCA to MIDI >-
    >I was in the market for a device from JL Cooper called the MixMate. It
    >was supposed to patch into a mixing board effectively replacing 8 faders
    >with  the hardware  (VCA to MIDI faders) that were in the box. 
    
    If this is the same piece of gear - it had 8 faders and not much else,
    a few buttons.  I believe you have a misunderstanding of what this unit
    did/does.  The faders generate MIDI continuous controller data, the
    most obvious application being cc7 (MIDI Volume) on up to 8 MIDI
    channels at once.  So while yes, it does help your mixdown because the
    CC info can also be recorded on your sequencer for automated mixdown,
    it did not work directly on the audio signal.
    
    Unless Cooper came out with two very similar-looking units, one for
    MIDI only, one MIDI - to - VCA... which I don't recall at all !
    
    karl
2430.3MIDIfaderDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556Tue Sep 04 1990 16:449
    re .0 - I think the thing you're thinking of is the MIDIfader.  I think
    it's still available.  It is an 8 channel MIDI controlled audio volume
    control.  It lists for about $500.  It got generally good reviews,
    except that in one mode it made "zipper" noise when changing volume.
    There was another way to use it that didn't make the noise.
    I forget who made it.
    
    len.
      
2430.4Cheaper than an Neve!!JUPITR::BREENWed Sep 05 1990 13:4915
    I do remember seeing the unit your talking about. It looks much like
    the MIDI Fader but patches into the audio line (or something like
    that). I also seem to remember there being two models, one may have
    been to interface with a PC with a software package. I was very
    interested in this type of "budget automation" but MY budget said NO.
    
    I think it would remember your fader moves and play them back. You
    could edit your moves by adjusting the faders during playback...I
    think.
    
    I'll look tonite to see if I kept the flier. I do know that the flier
    came with one about the MIDI Fader and I believe the name was MIDI Mix.
    
    
    kpb   
2430.5uh-ohMILKWY::JANZENWed Sep 05 1990 14:0212
    Gee.  Ghost tapes are no longer necessary.  Subotnik or some creative
    composer would record control voltages on an audio tape as FM-encoded
    voltages.  During a performance he would play the tapes into
    frequency-to-voltage convertors, and the voltages would control not
    oscllators but voltage-controlled amplifiers and other audio
    processors.  Then the music played live through mics through the
    processors would be modified differently for each of several speakers.
    Now you would just make a sequence of MIDI control signals and play
    them from a sequencer. Hm.  In fact, they could randomly affect your
    playing, for example you could have random patches played.  In fact, I
    will do that.
    Tom
2430.6beep, bluurp, squak...wakka wakka boingLEDDEV::ROSSshiver me timbres....Wed Sep 05 1990 15:217
    
    sheesh......it's the 90's Tom. 
    
    Buy a sequencer, huh?
    
    rr