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2365.1 | I am digging this very much, thank you... | CANYON::XEROX | on the horns of an enema | Sat Jun 09 1990 02:15 | 13 |
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I think I've just found a new use for my speech synthesizer.
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2365.2 | Give me your money. | QUIVER::PICKETT | David - $ cat > | cc | Mon Jun 11 1990 10:42 | 4 |
| Finally, someone has captured the essence of rap.
dp
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2365.3 | | SALSA::MOELLER | TUO:112�F, but it's a DRY heat | Mon Jun 11 1990 15:37 | 6 |
| I extracted it, cc'd and linked it. My only issue is the 'shake your
meat' phrase.. I substitued 'feet'.. looks a lot better.
karl
p.s. I agree it Captures the essence of RAP
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2365.4 | The essence of Nonsense - Maybe | NWACES::PHILLIPS | | Tue Jun 12 1990 12:20 | 14 |
| Well, I certainly hope people and kidding when they say "it captures
the essence of rap". Because I am NOT a fan of rap, but the little I am
exposed to, is a lot clever that than that program suggest. It is real
easy to make fun and belittle art forms, the same have be done to jazz,
blues, rock, newage.......that kind of thinking/feeling seems to
approach bigotry.
I don't mean to be a heavy, but I don't believe in making fun of art
forms, cultures.... that I don't understand or don't particularly find
interesting.
Errol
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2365.5 | nobody's making fun of a culture, are they? | HUNEY::MACHIN | | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:05 | 5 |
| I thought rap was pop music, not an art form.
Even so, what's wrong with making fun of an art form?
Richard.
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2365.6 | ex | VFOVAX::BELL | | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:18 | 3 |
| Who ever makes fun of rock and roll, anyway?
Mike
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2365.7 | FZ | HUNEY::MACHIN | | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:23 | 7 |
| RE .6
Frank Zappa for one, and look what happened to him.
That man has NO respect.
Richard.
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2365.8 | a lot of rock and roll is boring | NORGE::CHAD | Ich glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tte | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:25 | 3 |
| I do, but then again I am already a nobody :-)
Chad
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2365.9 | change of target | MILKWY::JANZEN | Tom 228-5421 FXO/28 | Tue Jun 12 1990 13:44 | 1 |
| I used to make fun of rock. now I make fun of performance art. -Tom
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2365.10 | | SALSA::MOELLER | TUO:112�F, but it's a DRY heat | Tue Jun 12 1990 14:33 | 1 |
| I make fun of former performance artists
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2365.11 | For Some Real Fun | NWACES::PHILLIPS | | Tue Jun 12 1990 14:41 | 2 |
| When I want to laugh I play the latest Commusic tape. :>)
Just kidding guys, that reminds me I still have a review to do
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2365.12 | Y B 2 serious? | PAULJ::HARRIMAN | It's a dog eat dog food world | Tue Jun 12 1990 16:03 | 20 |
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I dunno, lots of people make fun of lots of things. Who took disco
seriously? I was gonna hack the rap generator to do reggae instead.
I suppose PDQ Bach isn't funny either to some. Or the Tubes, who
poked fun at all sorts of people, including themselves. I suppose
a lot of people who wore pajamas were upset when Zappa made fun of
them. Or Jim and Tammy, for that matter. I'd bet Ronald Reagan
and George Bush don't laugh at Doonesbury.
IMHO, ridiculing art is as natural as appreciating art. Something
about freedom of expression comes to mind. If you don't like it,
don't look at it. Or laugh at it.
I think it's funny, and I have listened to quite a bit of rap music.
Whatever.
/pjh
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2365.13 | I beg to rephrase | NWACES::PHILLIPS | | Tue Jun 12 1990 17:59 | 9 |
| Re: 12
I agree with what you have said. I love satire,
but not to point where it is a 'put down'. I think PDQ Bach is
funny but it sure ain't the essence of Bach.
If it's one thing I have never been accused of is being serious.
Errol
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2365.15 | Satire is lost on the ignorant | MILKWY::JANZEN | Tom 228-5421 FXO/28 | Wed Jun 13 1990 10:01 | 3 |
| Many PDQ Bach parodies are parodies of modern music since 1960, but you
have to know that music to know it.
Tom
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2365.16 | Get it straight! | MUDDIN::DEBARROS | | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:01 | 7 |
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For your information... the lyrics suggested to be used were not
from a Rap song, but from a House music recording! Don't make
fun music you cant even catagorize. Besides, the ESSENCE of
RAP is making a hell of a lot more money than you guys!
Eric
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2365.17 | if quality == $$ then hand me a McDoughnut NOW | HUNEY::MACHIN | | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:28 | 7 |
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Rap, House, Thrash, Metal, rinky-dinky-doo -- it's all junk,
isn't it?
Makes me laugh, anyroadup.
Richard.
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2365.18 | Money, nothing else. | QUIVER::PICKETT | David - $ cat > | cc | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:29 | 10 |
| re -.1
...Which is the essence of rap. Artless material compiled for the sole
purpose of the monetary gratification of the producer. Creating a
seemingly inflexible demand for such sonic tripe is an irrefutable
marketing triumph. Rap artists have managed to get money for less than
nothing. On that basis alone, they deserve to be commended. Big
business? Yes. Art? Not really.
dp
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2365.19 | | ACESMK::KUHN | Jay Kuhn MKO2 | Tue Jun 19 1990 16:24 | 5 |
| This is all gosh darned fine , but don't even think of bashing
Barry Mantilow or Jim Neighbors or Burl Ives. America loves them and
needs them, darn it. Everyone knows Burl Ives started Rap and house
music.
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2365.20 | Modern day Zingspeil | QUIVER::PICKETT | David - $ cat > | cc | Wed Jun 20 1990 10:30 | 3 |
| Hmmm. I thought rap could trace its roots back to operatic recitative.
dp
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2365.21 | | DEALIN::OMALLEY | That's great tasting bass! | Wed Jun 20 1990 11:20 | 5 |
| re: -.1
Don't fall off that high horsey!
Peter O
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2365.22 | ... | QUIVER::PICKETT | David - $ cat > | cc | Wed Jun 20 1990 11:49 | 7 |
| re -.1
*thud*
Ouch! ;^)
dp
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2365.23 | Should I start a `How to write a Rock song' note? | IGETIT::BROWNM | En-ger-land! | Wed Jun 20 1990 14:25 | 14 |
| A question for some of you out there;
Those of you who don't get on well with Rap. Do you like House music?
if YES, why? There's hardly a difference.
if NO, What's wrong with a record being good to dance to in a club, but
not elsewhere. I know some of you aim your production at the listener,
and that it takes a long time to get things to sounds right on, for
instance, the radio. Surely it's just as difficult to direct the
production at someones feet.
matty
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2365.24 | | OTIGER::R_CURTIS | There is madness to my method.. | Thu Jun 21 1990 17:41 | 5 |
| Just a quick question....exactly what is the definition of 'house
music' ??? Sorry I'm not better informed, but I gotta ask...
Also, I am going to try out a few 'raps' of my own from the 'Rap
Generatuh'. I got a kick out of it.
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2365.25 | This'll confuse ya! | IGETIT::BROWNM | En-ger-land! | Mon Jun 25 1990 08:20 | 41 |
| ...definition of `house music'. Got me there!
There are lots of types of house music, but the main ingredient is a
repetative bassline, thumping bassdrum (machine of course) and a load
snare all in 4/4 at about 120-135 BPM.
Ambient house; this is mellow dance music with more atmospherics that
anything else.
Deep house ; this is really modern soul music (except for the 98
BPM/Soul II Soul stuff). It's just soulful lyrics over the top of the
drums asn bass. This was the original house music that came from
Chicago, 1984-86.
Acid house ; supposedly acid house is the stripped down variety, but
really it's just more monotanous (generally), but the distinction come
from the acid `squelch' sound. ie usually the bass sound, where the
parameters change as the beat goes on. This stuff really took over the
UK last year, and changed the face of pop music in the process.
Hip house ; basically a cross between Hip Hop and house.
It's so difficult to say what house music is, because it's been grabbed
by the music industry (in the UK and most of Europe only) and
commercialised. This means that anyone and everyone can by the gear
and make a record. It take so little skill to make a bad house record,
which many of those that chart are, therefore bringing down the
reputation of House music in the eyes of those who weren't into it from
the start. You might consider Madonna's `Vogue' and Janet Jacksons
`Escapade' as house records.
I'm sure there's about to be an explosion of house records in the US.
Black artists are gaining more play, and will start charting more and
more, then whites will make house music too, and everyone will jump on
the band wagon.
BTW I thought .0 was funny, but you nicked all the words from
Technotronic's LP!!!
matty
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2365.26 | | OTIGER::R_CURTIS | There is madness to my method.. | Wed Jun 27 1990 11:11 | 3 |
| re .25
Thanks for the reply . .
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2365.27 | I forgot Techno House - the sound of Detroit! | IGETIT::BROWNM | En-ger-land! | Wed Jun 27 1990 13:35 | 5 |
| I didn't know if you were serious about not knowing what House music
was. I suppose things are different werever you are.
matty
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2365.28 | House is Musician-Dj style | GVA05::BOULMIER | | Tue Jul 24 1990 05:50 | 10 |
| Just a little word about it. Do not forget that House music began
in the beginning of '80s and where initiated by Dj's that were pissed
of by disco music style. Chicago is home of house music but I think
this style has no origin, it is everybody' style.
I know that you think it is poor in art with a big 'A' but do not
forget that a lot of real house music artist are very good and
some of them are better musician than we are..!
Pat a musician-Dj-Rapper
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