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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

2257.0. "Yamaha EMQ1 Sequencer" by SHAPES::BROWNM (A sound formed in a vacuum...) Wed Feb 07 1990 09:53

    I just went to the music shop and asked about the Yamaha EMQ-1 �250
    
    It is billed as a `Tapless Recorder', but is a sequencer/disk drive.
    
    It is 8 track.  Apparently you can do bulk dumps, or record a
    performance.  The guy in the shop said you can record, say a Bass drum,
    on track 1, then play back and record the snare wherever you want it,
    playback and put in Toms, and so on.
    
    Now that seems, to me anyway, a pretty easy and cheap way to save
    songs.
    
    But the concerns I have are;
    
    	1.	Once recorded can you edit? (it has FF/REW/PLAY & RECORD)
    
    	2.	It uses `Quick Discs'.  These are 2.8" and therefore not
    		standard.
    
    If anyone has any knowledge on this I would be grateful.  I will post
    the full spec later, when I have the catalogue.
    
    
    Mattyb
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2257.1Avoid QD Sequencers If You Want To EditAQUA::ROSTEveryone loves those dead presidentsWed Feb 07 1990 10:1013
    
    "Quick Disks" in the US are a disaster, they are hard to find and
    expensive.   Despite the fact that they store much less than the 3.5"
    variety they cost about three times as much.
    
    I'll wager a guess that other than erasing and overdubbing it probably
    has no editing features (i.e. cut and paste type stuff).  Most of the
    home-type sequencers like the Korg SQD-8, Roland PR-100 (both of which
    also use QD) have none.
    
    							Brian
    
    
2257.2Alternative?SHAPES::BROWNMA sound formed in a vacuum...Wed Feb 07 1990 10:256
    OK, so that's out!
    
    But what's the alternative, within �300
    
    
    Mattyb
2257.3how much we talkin?LEDDEV::ROSSshiver me timbres....Wed Feb 07 1990 10:306
    whats the exchange rate today?
    
    QX5D goes for what these days?
    
    rr
    
2257.4almost an Atari's worthHUNEY::MACHINWed Feb 07 1990 11:137
    The QX5FD is heavily discounted in the U.K. now (300 pounds).
    
    Mind you,  you're getting close the the going rate for an ATARI
    520 with Pro 12...
    
    Richard
                      
2257.5ThanksSHAPES::BROWNMA sound formed in a vacuum...Wed Feb 07 1990 11:517
    Yeah, that's a good idea!
    
    If the Atari's miles better, why do they market such hardware?
    
    
    
    Mattyb
2257.6P.T. Barnum's theory...WEFXEM::COTEBain DramagedWed Feb 07 1990 12:126
    Probably for the same reason someone could sell my mom and dad a
    $10K organ that lacks MIDI... ("You paid HOW MUCH????")
    
    Some people just don't know, or care.
    
    Edd
2257.7there are advantages..HUNEY::MACHINWed Feb 07 1990 12:219
    That's not strictly fair. Many people prefer hardware sequencers,
    either because they're used to them or because they don't take to
    point and grunt techniques. The QX5 is pretty powerful -- you can
    define macros and things to make your life easier, and they're probably
    pretty robust. 
    
    Also, using a mouse makes your hand hurt.
    
    Richard.
2257.8so there tooKOBAL::DICKSONYou could be an ocarina salesmanWed Feb 07 1990 13:461
    Peering at tiny LCD screens makes my eyes hurt.
2257.9aspca memberGLOWS::COCCOLIThela Hun GingeetWed Feb 07 1990 20:353
    
    
    RE .7      Using a mouse for WHAT??
2257.10re: .9 : you card!HUNEY::MACHINThu Feb 08 1990 04:409
    AAAAAgagagaga.
    
    I actually meant using the Atari mouse for manipulating the on-screen
    pointer. 
    
    Swings and roundabouts, horses for courses, one person's meat etc. I
    must admit, I was sold on hardware sequencers before I tried Cubase.
    
    Richard.
2257.11Tech SpecSHAPES::BROWNMA sound formed in a vacuum...Thu Feb 08 1990 08:1821
    Okay folks, here's the lowdown according a Yamaha leaflet
    
    Spec;
    Memory Capacity	: 6000 notes, 60kB, 9 songs max
    Recording Medium	: 2.8" Quick Disc
    Modes		: Record, Overdub, Playback
    Control & Switches	: Start/Pause, Rew, FF, Stop, Function, Speed + -,
    			  To disc, From disc, Overdub, Record, Clock, Power
    Indicators		: Song number, play, record, overdub, speed, to
    			  disc, from disc, verify, function, error
    			  messages, in use lamp, MIDI data lamp
    Input/Output	: MIDI In, Out 1, Out 2, DC In, DC Out
    Dimensions	WxDxH	: 218x215x44mm
    Incl. Accessories	: Quick Disc x 1, MIDI cable 1m x 1, DC cord x1,
    			  Holder x 2, Mounting Plate x 2
    
    
    Well there you are.
    
    
    Matty
2257.12Save your moneyWEFXEM::COTEBain DramagedThu Feb 08 1990 10:371
    
2257.13not enuf memory OR disk spaceLEDDEV::ROSSshiver me timbres....Thu Feb 08 1990 14:035
    
    agree.
    
    rr
    
2257.14Did I Miss Something?DRUMS::FEHSKENSThu Feb 08 1990 18:335
    re .11 - sounds like a Roland MSQ-100; you can pick those up used
    (discontinued, obsolete) for $50 - $100.
    
    len.
    
2257.15it's trashGLOWS::COCCOLIThela Hun GingeetThu Feb 08 1990 22:463
    
        
    
2257.16I get the point!SHAPES::BROWNMEee, it's grand up northFri Feb 09 1990 04:591