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2248.0. "1/90 NAMM Show Tidbits" by AQUA::ROST (Everyone loves those dead presidents) Thu Jan 25 1990 08:37
The following is about 100 lines about the NAMM show that I picked up
off USENET. For those who have better things to do, hit "next
unseen"...
Brian
Well, I just spent all of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday
at the NAMM show in Anaheim. What a country! Frankly, I'm all NAMMed
out. By 1:00pm Sunday, I was ready to head back. I know I didn't see
everything (too much stuff!), but I was interested in a wide variety
of things, since I'm planning on putting together a home studio
basically from "scratch" (most of the stuff I have now is really old,
or really bad).
Fostex 812 Mixer: The most exciting new product for my money was the
Fostex 812 mixer. Listing for $1795 (basic version, w/o MIDI muting),
this mixer nicely fills a void in the market that has existed for some
time. This 12 input, 8 bus mixer has some nice EQ (finally! Low and
mid sweepable-freqs with 10khz shelving hi) along with apparently an
abundance of routing flexibility. It's also got phantom power, two
effects sends, and an auxillary input on all twelve channels which can
apparently be used to take twelve more MIDI (or whatever) sound
sources while mixing down. If this is true (the rep I talked to
couldn't explain it very well...), one could have a total of 24 sound
sources on mixdown. Fostex has also come out with a 16 X 2 line-level
mixer with gain, pan and 2 sends on each input that lists for $350!
This is some neat stuff.
AKG C-100: If anybody is interested (as I was) in a nice, inexpensive
condenser microphone for recording vocals in their home studio, I
didn't hear anything that sounded better than the AKG C-1000. What a
splendid sounding unit...and listing for only $325, any deal you made
at the music store would be worth it. I realize this might be old news
to some of you, but I had never heard it...
Rhodes 660: Here's some more old (possibly?) but good news. Roland
has made some great stuff in the Rhodes lineup. The Rhodes 660 was
the most impressive keyboard I tried out at the show in the
price/performance category. I've never heard it mentioned on the net,
but man, it has some really nice sounds. 61 "weighted" keys, velocity
and after-touch sensitive, 128 16-bit RS-PCM sounds (great sounds, I
liked the piano, sax, strings, etc. sounds much better than the U-20),
30 voice polyphony, split and "dual" modes, six part multitimbral,
panning and volume for each voice, reverbs, chorus, delays; even a zany
little arpeggiator (well, I'm a guitar player, what do you expect?
;-). All this for a list price of $1495. Only drawback I noticed was
a mere two outputs, making the very nice drum sounds on board kind of
tough to work with. This board was introduced in November according to
the guy I spoke with, and of course there are already a lot more PCM
cards for it. I was looking at the U-20 before the show at the local
music stores...not anymore. I wonder if you have to go to those silly
places where they sell those "home" keyboards to get one...
Proteus: E-mu has a really nice little unit on their hands with this
one. Now they've got the Proteus/2. Just more on-board sounds, as I
understand it. Unfortunately, their demo room was set up really weird,
and there was only one Proteus set up that you could mess with...the
other ones had sequenced demos (very impressive ones) running on them
constantly. The Proteus/2's that I heard have this new set of
orchestral samples that are fantastic...though probably nothing new to
Emulator users. On the "Pop" Proteus, the sounds were also great; I
especially liked the acoustic guitar and the snare samples.
SY77: I did of course want to see what all the hullaballoo was about
the SY77. Well, I can tell you it looks great on paper, and it does
do some nice stuff, but say what you will...I didn't hear it do
anything shockingly out of the ordinary. I must have seen 2 full
demos, and parts of one other one. In fact, it seemed like everytime
I'd go into the Yamaha room to try the stuff out, there'd be this guy
giving a demo on the SY77 at 120db. Don't get me wrong, some of the
sounds were great, but it wasn't like when the DX-7 first came out or
anything. One thing I did notice was the snare sounded kind of
ratty...just my HO, but I can't believe with all this "new" technology
that they can't get a proper snare drum out of it.
SY55: One nice suprise was the $1495 list (that seems to be the magic
number) SY55. This is Yamaha's DX-9 of the SY series. Less to work
with, but really capable of some nice stuff too. I wish they'd have
pulled out the little bonehead 8-track 8000 note sequencer though.
Maybe then it would have listed for $1295 instead. Again, I tended to
gravitate to the piano, sax and string sounds which were quite good.
Nice D-50 type sounds too.
Korg: I had to go by the Korg room and hear what the demo was like on
the M3r. Wow! I can't decide between that and the Proteus. The
on-board effects are really clean and fat sounding too (E-mu...do
it!). You could hear some voice- stealing going on, but hey, what do
you expect for a 1-U box sounding like a 64-piece orchestra? I also
took a spin by the Bo Tomlyn booth and listened to his stuff for the
M3r. Bo knows the M3r. (just had to say it!) The T-series stuff
sounds great too as probably most of you know.
Kurzweil: Their piano sounds were the first to really knock me out on
Friday. They have a new product called the "Micro-Expander" that's
supposed to come out soon, listing for $995. I messed with one. It's
supposedly the same piano sound that's used in their more expensive
keyboards. It's really great. Plus this little unit had some other
synth-type stuff one might not expect from Kurzweil. I overheard a rep
telling a store owner that his Micro-Expanders were going to be
shipped "soon", and that they had a lot of other music stores on their
tail too. By the way, the Micro-Expander comes standard as a non-
rack-mountable module, kind of like the MT-32. You can rack it with
their little "kit" though.
Alesis: Yes, the 1622 does have alot of inputs. Big deal. It was
sitting in a glass case like the Hope diamond. "It's shipping..." they
said. We'll see. Again, no new stuff that I saw, though their booth
was quite useful for leaning up against as you ate your hotdog.
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2248.1 | midi-dog | LEDDEV::ROSS | shiver me timbres.... | Thu Jan 25 1990 08:58 | 7 |
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The best part is at the end. Read it.
:)
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2248.2 | Hammond B3 with MIDI???? | AQUA::ROST | Everyone loves those dead presidents | Thu Jan 25 1990 11:14 | 36 |
| Another excerpt from USENET for Hammond fans:
So I went off to the Hammond booth. Believe it or not, folks, the
Hammond B-3 is *still* in production. Well, sort of. They stopped
making the mechanical tone generator in '71 or '72. This model, called
the Super B, has one row of drawbars for each manual, several presets,
MIDI, a card reader, and a bunch of other whiz-bang features. What's
missing is the half moon Leslie switch, two sets of drawbars, and a
lot of soul... the digital synthesis they use just doesn't quite get
the right Hammond tone (I later found out that there a control to
switch between summing Hammond tones and (apparently) sine waves. I
wish I had known about this while I was still at the show. The Leslie
cabinet was solid state, and like all solid state Leslies, doesn't
have the proper growl... it could still be that with a proper (ie,
tube) Leslie and the Hammond tones engaged (if they weren't already
when I saw it) this could be quite the hot setup. Paul Shaeffer, Chuck
Leavell (Allmans, Stones) and Brent have all had MIDI setups
retrofitted to their Hammonds.... maybe this is the machine of the
90s??? Anyway, I'm sure that all the old folks in the piano and organ
section didn't know what to make of the idiot in the dancing skeleton
shirt blasting out Gimme Some Lovin'...
Some of the exhibits got a double-take out of me... there were lots of
soundproof booths with demonstrations (lots of drummers) by big-time
session players & Genuine Rock and Roll Stars, though I admit I didn't
see anyone I recognized ("they all have MTV hair and look the same to
me..."). In one display there was a silent band jamming... they were
all wearing headphones... and there were about 40 pairs of headphones
for the audience. A really weird thing to see. Without the headphones
all you could hear was the drumsticks hitting the drum pads.
--
Who: Dave Chesavage
Where: [email protected]
Disclaimer: "If you get confused listen to the music play"
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2248.3 | watt? no walkmen? | LEDDEV::ROSS | shiver me timbres.... | Thu Jan 25 1990 13:58 | 6 |
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Motto of the Audio Luddite Society:
"Wiggle air, not speaker cones"
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2248.4 | back from the Future | SALSA::MOELLER | Never trust a Prankster. | Thu Jan 25 1990 18:10 | 1 |
| 'Audio Luddite' - I love it !
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2248.5 | More NAMM Gossip---New Stuff From Kawai | AQUA::ROST | Bikini Girls With Machine Guns | Thu Mar 15 1990 12:46 | 33 |
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Some more hot NAMM News:
From Kawai:
XD-5 rack mount "Percussion Synthesizer"
KL-1 14 voice (??) 16 bit synth, keys or rack
K4000 a K4 with 88 weighted keys
From Roland:
The SPD-8 is described as "an Octapad with built-in sounds", no photo,
availability or price given.
They are "working" on a four-track digital deck. Not DAT, though,
*direct to hard disk*. Supposedly DAT is too little, too late!!??!!
Other:
Waldorf has found a US distributor (Russ Jones Marketing)
DOD to be purchased by Harmon International (Harmon/Kardon, JBL, etc.)
Paul Reed Smith showed his Harmonic Generator amplifier, 70 watts,
vintage tone and *all transistor*.
The Danelectro Coral Electric Sitar has been reissued (by who??)
perfect for those Stylistics covers.....
Brian
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2248.6 | | UPWARD::HEISER | boycott hell! | Mon Aug 13 1990 15:14 | 31 |
| ATARI MIDI-FEST '90
Atari and American Music, a large music store in North Hollywood, CA,
held "MIDI-FEST '90" last Thursday, August 9th in the Ballroom of the
Beverly Garland Hotel, also in North Hollywood. Live MIDI
demonstrations were presented for a crowd of as many as 400 customers
and music mavens. The speaker list included Mick Fleetwood, Jimmy Hotz,
Scott Gershin (sound for many motion pictures including BORN ON THE
FOURTH OF JULY and HONEY, I'VE SHRUNK THE KIDS), members of TANGERINE
DREAM and THE POINTER SISTERS band, and other musicians who
enthusiastically demonstrated the use of the Atari and its software in
professional applications. It was also the retail commercial debut of
the HOTZ MIDI Translator, produced under the ATARI name. The program
was very similar to a combination of that presented at the ill-fated
"concert" at last year's Disneyland World of Atari show and the demos
shown at the more recent NAMM shows. It was well received by this
audience, made up of professional (and some quite famous) musicians,
songwriters, producers, film score makers, and serious musical
hobbyists. The display again established Atari as the technology and
price leader for MIDI. Surrounding the demo/concert floor were many
displays of equipment and software for MIDI use on the Atari computers.
Steinberg-Jones, C-LAB, DR. T's. Hybrid Arts, MIDIMAN, and other
representatives showed their wares, and American Music offered Atari
Hardware (including NINE Stacy Laptop ST computers!) for sale. The
evening was arranged through Atari's Frank Foster, who had the
misfortune to have his car broken into the day of the show, losing his
personal STACY. We wonder if the thief is still trying to get to the
"C:>" prompt. Help in setup for the show was provided by volunteers of
the Southern California user groups, coordinated by John King Tarpinian,
who is also the Glendale Show manager. American Music, 5100 Lankershim
Blvd., North Hollywood CA, (818) 762-9749.
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