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2236.1 | I read about that player over a year ago | NWACES::PHILLIPS | | Mon Jan 15 1990 16:28 | 11 |
| Well, I guess it's finally here.
I read an article about this player about a year ago in Keyboard
magazine (I think), so I got me a cheapy CD player and have beed
waiting for this beast to show up. Supposedly, all/most CD's in the
future will have the midi data for the songs on the disk. That's
what the article claimed anyway.
That will surely blow a hole in the canned sequence market. If can
dig up that article, I'll post it here.
Errol
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2236.2 | | SALSA::MOELLER | Never trust a Prankster. | Mon Jan 15 1990 17:49 | 7 |
| Techno-slimeball Craig Anderton wrote a cover article (is there any
other kind?) for EM spring '89 on MIDI CD. It isn't here yet.
Apparently there's lots'o' spare encoding space on CD.. some folks watn
to put up video stills.. the lunatic fringe wants time-synced MIDI
data.
karl
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2236.3 | vaporware from Rat Shack ... | MIZZOU::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326 | Mon Jan 15 1990 20:58 | 3 |
| Yabbut, when is Thor coming?
Steve
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2236.4 | | WEFXEM::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Tue Jan 16 1990 08:05 | 5 |
| > it isn't here yet...
According to .0, it is.
Edd
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2236.5 | mild flame, and humbug | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Tue Jan 16 1990 09:52 | 16 |
| Huh? Who in their right mind is gonna make their sequences available
for public consumption?
And how in blazes are you going to sequence non-MIDI instruments? Who's
gonna write the sequence for a BSO recording of the Brandenburg
Concerto?
And how in the world is anyone going to ever standardize on what comes
out of where? Viz, horns on channel 5, strings on channels 7,8 & 9,
what about oboe, flute, tympani, etc?
Sorry to be skeptical, but this sounds pretty useless to me - perhaps
the idea of some yuppy marketeer who don't know squat about *making*
music ...
-b
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2236.6 | See EM Sept, 1989 | NWACES::PHILLIPS | | Tue Jan 16 1990 10:08 | 20 |
| Karl .2 is correct, that's where I read the article, EM September 1989
issue. I found the article and it is way too long for my typing
skills. However, there is a tel.# and address that may be of
use to some of you interested parties.
The company is Warner New Media (WNM), they are supposed to be helping
artist get graphics and MIDI on CD's.
Tel # 818 955-9999. there is also an address given
According to the article Naked, 'the Talking Heads CD already contains
CD+G data. Interestingly enough the graphics on the CD contains lyrics,
chord changes to some of the songs and even a "track sheet" that's
regularly updated to show which intruments are playing during specific
parts of the tune'.
It's a pretty interesting article that explores some of the
possibilities and appications of Graphics and MIDI on CD.
That's the scoop..........!
Errol
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2236.7 | | MIZZOU::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326 | Tue Jan 16 1990 13:27 | 9 |
| I imagine that dumping MIDI to a CD would be easy for whomever makes
the CD. It would be there for other musicians who might want to use
special samples or sequences that sound good on the CD. Since they are
protected by copyright, it might be easier to enforce copyright
restrictions. Also, with just a bit of hacking, this could be very
valuable to cover bands, royalties going to the originator of the CD as
appropriate.
Steve
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2236.8 | | 4GL::DICKSON | You could be an ocarina salesman | Tue Jan 16 1990 13:30 | 3 |
| A more likely use would be Midi-controlled lights, etc. Probably of
interest to DJ's. I don't see why it would be in the musician's
interest to put the MIDI for the actual performance on the disk.
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2236.9 | I would, but then... I'm not in my right mind | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Conliberative | Tue Jan 16 1990 16:40 | 24 |
| > Who in their right mind is gonna make their sequences available
> for public consumption?
Actually, Brad it COULD be a good business decision.
Assuming that you CHARGE for it, it could be an opportunity to
make some money where before you had none.
I'd rather have people buying my sequences than paying some dude
who sells sequences of my stuff without paying me royalties.
It's not unlike the turnabout in the studios attitudes about
video rental libraries. To the best of my knowledge, all those
video stores out there are in clear violation of the copyright
law, and yet they go unchallenged.
The reason why is because the studios eventually got wise and
discovered that the best market for selling video movies is
rental libraries.
Not too many folks will pay $30 for a movie, but thousands and
thousands of stores will pay $80 and then rent them out at a profit.
db
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2236.10 | I must not think bad thoughts, I must not... | DCSVAX::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Tue Jan 16 1990 18:13 | 6 |
| I must be fighting some larcenous streak; the first thing that came to
my mind was suddenly all these sequences would be available. For free.
Maybe CDs will be released that don't contain music!! Just MIDI data.
Edd
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2236.11 | instant musicians - just add water and stir | DASXPS::SASCHROEDER | Falling through wet forest's... | Tue Jan 16 1990 21:12 | 7 |
| re.6
Thanks! I'll mention the article to my friend.
Just think, if this medium (midi-cd's) becomes popular you wont
even havt to learn how to play an instument anymore - just plug
in the cd and fake it.
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2236.12 | | MIZZOU::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326 | Wed Jan 17 1990 01:41 | 5 |
| I don't figure entire sequences will be used, but probably the hooks,
drum tracks and tough licks might be lifted. Would be an excellent
way to pick a piece apart.
Steve
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2236.13 | <^> | SHAPES::BROWNM | I get this feeling I'm in motion... | Wed Jan 31 1990 09:09 | 5 |
| If DJ clubs got hold of the MIDI data they might be able to break it
down for remixing. It would be sooooo easy!
Mattyb
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