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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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2224.0. "Vocal Effects for Live PA System - What To Get" by PUGGS::DESROCHERS (SAVVY Good Band * Music * Time) Thu Jan 04 1990 09:39

Hi everyone,

Savvy is looking to replace some P.A. effects and I'm looking for suggestions.
While we do have a few things, let's just start from scratch.  

What would you add to a basic system of a mixer, power amps, and speakers??
Obviously digital delay and reverb, EQ, etc...  I'm also looking for some "neat"
effects to enhance the vocals.  Chorus??  Flange??  ???

Gotta say that while we want good, up-to-date stuff, let's try to keep the 
prices somewhat reasonable, ok?  

Nothing like, "for 2K you can get..."

Is there anything that does it all for VOCAL effects??  An SPX90 type of 
thing??  Something newer and improved??

So, what's out there??  How much??  Where to buy??

Thanks alot!!
Tom

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2224.1WEFXEM::COTECall *who* Ishmael???Thu Jan 04 1990 09:546
    The SPX-nn(n) family is nice. So is the Roland DEP-5. Or maybe an
    Alesis Q-verb. All of these units have multiple FX on board.
    
    ...and they don't come close to $2K.
    
    Edd
2224.2Symetrix 528 vocal processorTALLIS::PALMERColonel ModeThu Jan 04 1990 09:586
    Symetrix makes a model 528 vocal processor for about $500 that includes
    XLR input, mic preamp stage, de-esser, compressor, expander/gate, and 3
    band parametric EQ. Since I only have a line level mixer, this serves
    me well.
   
    Chris
2224.3There goes some more $$$$$CSC32::MOLLERNightmare on Sesame StreetThu Jan 04 1990 11:4228
	I really like the pitch shift ability on my REX-50 (you'd want
	the SPX-90, as the REX-50 is not a rack device, or even for
	vocals, but, hey, what else is new). I set it up to split
	my voice into 3 parts, the original, one 8 cents higher, the
	other 8 cents lower & then delay the 2 shifted parts. This is
	a variation of a preset on the REX-50 & it's amazing what it
	can do to your voice (once you've tried this & heard the effect,
	you'll start recognising this effect on recordings). I use MIDI
	to swap between 6 or so patches that do various things to the
	vocals (slap back echo is another favorite of mine & it's 
	possible with the SPX-90/FEX/REX-50 type machine).

	I also suggest digital reverb. I find that I rarely mess with
	the reverb once it's set up, so, having a MIDI port to set it
	to only one patch is not that effective use of a MIDI channel
	(I run out of channels as it is). You might want to consider
	something like an Alesis Micro-verb.

	Compressors have the benifit of getting a more consistant sound
	(in the form of more consistant volume levels), but can easily
	screw up all the vocalists dynamics if too much compression is
	used. 

	As always, too much of a good thing becomes obnoxious pretty quick,
	so I tend to prefer subtle enhancements that don't stand out
	unless the complement the music.

							Jens
2224.4ARTPUGGS::DESROCHERSSAVVY Good Band * Music * TimeThu Jan 04 1990 12:444
    
    A few stores have recommended the ART Multiverb II.  How does
    that unit compare to Alesis, etc...
    
2224.5Probably any multifxNORGE::CHADIch glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tteThu Jan 04 1990 13:5110
The Voice Class director at NMRHS in Townsend MA bought 3 Alesis Quadraverbs --
two he is using for vocals.  They sing rock and pop.

Chad

(Multiverb is also a nice box)

Just try out the multi-fx boxes and see what *you* like.

Multiverb, Quadraverb, etc are all anywhere from $350-$600.
2224.6UWRITE::DUBEDan Dube 264-0506Fri Jan 05 1990 12:3411
I use a combination of a Roland SRV-2000 for reverb and an ART Proverb 
for multi-effects.

The ART Proverb has a large number of presets, isn't programmable, but 
is available for less than $300. 

The presets are nice, and for my purposes I didn't need to be able to 
program with it at all. I just needed a simple to operate, inexpensive 
effects unit.

-Dan