Conference napalm::commusic_v1

	If you used Kermit to pull the file down, try again after telling
	kermit to "SET FILE TYPE BLOCK" or "SET FILE TYPE BINARY".  What
	terror message does PKXARC display? 

    What is un arcing? And what is PKxarc?
    
    I have been trying to run D50DUMP.ARC and keep getting a locked
    keyboard (as was someone else). I have set file type to binary
    in Kermit, and have set the receive packet size to 80,
    the same as the VAX Kermit send length. The version of Kermit that
    I have on my PC doesn't seem to let you set file type to anything.
    I used Kermit on my PC to copy files from an ATARI and they work
    fine. Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?
    
    Thanks for your help! Oh yeah - the default receive packet size
    on my PC was 94, which I tried first. I don't even know if this
    is critical to the file transfer, or what other parameters might
    be involved.
    
    Regards,
    Bill

a .ARC file is a file that has been run through a process commonly called 
ARCing.  It is a compression scheme used to compress and stick many files into
one file.  It is short for ARChive.  You need to get a de-arcer program that
uncmopresses the file and extracts the needed files before you can run anything.

As an example, Steph Bailey sent me all 9 of the Kawai K5 patch cards as one big
file, which was a .ARC file (it was sent as something else but we'll ignore
that).  I de-arced the file and I got out 18 little files.  Size of the 18 files
is > the size of the .ARC file.  The compression speeds up file transfers and
saves space.

Chad

    Thanks for the info Chad. Does anyone have a PD de-arcer program
    maybe that they can put in the MIDILIB tools library? Or does anyone
    know where I can get one?
    
    I read 1ST_README.TXT in the D50DUMP area, and it said that there
    was documentation in the ARC file. I mistakenly assumed that this
    meant on-line help instead of an actual document file.
    
    Regards,
    Bill

I'd suggest looking in the notes conference for your particullar computer
line (ie, ATARIST, whatever the PC clone confereence is, etc).  There is
also a VMS dearcer available.

Chad

    I've got a couple copies of VMSWEEP, ARC, an the like ... and none
    of 'em work!  They all crap out in the middle of the first Xtract.

    I have a de-ARCer on my Atari that works with no problems on the
    same files.  Very weird ....

    I'd take Chad's suggestion and get an unARCed copy of a PC deARCer,
    then Kermit the thing to your PC (using BINARY mode, of course). Should
    be in bizness. 

-b

My VAX dearcer works but I  canc't post a location for it yet.  I do my dearcing
on Atari end.

Chad

    Thanks for all your help on this. I have located a PD de-arcer which
    I have yet to try but is called ARCE.COM and is located in
    
           SHIRE""::TSH6:[INGRAM.PUBLIC]
    
    I got this info from note # 2229 in NAC::IBMPC. At least one person
    replied that they had no problem using this on an AT with 640K.
    
    I will reply to this not with a listing of notes in that conference
    with a key word of ARC.
    
    I'll hopefully try this out tonight. Many other de-arcers are mentioned
    in that conference also.
    
    Regards!
    Bill

     Topics with a key word of ARC in NAC::IBMPC -
    
     1   NY1MM::CANZONERI    21-MAR-1985    10  introduction
    77  AKOV04::WATSON        5-DEC-1985     2  ARC & LBR Format Request
   145  THEBAY::MTHOMAS      13-APR-1986     8  ARC V5.12 sources
   174   SOUSA::HOGAN        27-MAY-1986     6  Beware ARC V5.13, it's lethal...
   242   NCCSB::DPARKER       5-AUG-1986     0  Even Noah needed an ARC
   286  JRDV04::MA_HASEGAWA  16-SEP-1986     2  ARC on VMS?
   313   CSC32::HAGERTY       9-OCT-1986     2  VMS version of ARC?
   389  WLDWST::DRIEAR        4-DEC-1986     6  ARCing in VMS
   472   NY1MM::DILLARD      28-JAN-1987     4  Problems with PAR5 ARC51.COM
   493  TKOV51::HTANAKA       6-FEB-1987     3  Is there ARC on VMS?
   556  ANTARE::HWANG        11-MAR-1987     7  VAX ARC?
   654  VAXUUM::FARR          1-MAY-1987     6  Need ARC files
   727  LITMUS::NEWMAN        2-JUN-1987     8  Help on .ARC files and PCBLUE
   771  SAACT3::BELL_J       24-JUN-1987     0  ARC for VMS
   924   DELNI::BELLUSCI     16-SEP-1987    12  .arc files
   980     ILO::LENIHAN       9-OCT-1987     5  PC Software and .ARC Files
   987     CPU::MARKS        14-OCT-1987     3  VMS equivalent of ARC?
   994  JEREMY::ORON         18-OCT-1987     2  help  *.arc
  1031   HYDRA::BLATT         4-NOV-1987    10  unencoded and ARC'ed????
  1315    MPGS::ORNSTEIN     19-FEB-1988    18  Pain in the ... ARC
  1445   NACAD::KASISCHKE    21-MAR-1988     5  Archive program needed
  1511  RDGCSS::MURRAY       14-APR-1988     3  q re .arc files
  1555  SKYLRK::KURATA       27-APR-1988    27  ARCE for the VAX ???
  1695  MKTUP4::EIBEN         9-JUN-1988     2  New ARC programs
  1828   OSL03::ULFH         25-JUL-1988     4  Trouble extracting .ARC-files
  1856  GALLOP::SHARKEYA     28-JUL-1988     8  Problem with NARC V2.1 and mouse
  1871   NYSSA::NAROD         2-AUG-1988     0  NARC companion, IDC-ARC ?
  1872  MKTUP4::EIBEN         2-AUG-1988     0  PKARC Version 36 warning
  1882   HGOVC::LAWRENCE      5-AUG-1988     2  EXTRACT .ARC FILES WITHIN .ARC
  2105   GYPSC::DRECHSEL     30-SEP-1988    10  VMS - de-archiver needed
  2117   COGMK::SILVA         4-OCT-1988     4  ARC, ARC?
  2229   DLO09::WATKINS       3-NOV-1988     5  Dearcing on an AT

    Hi - just wanted to let you know that ARCE.COM mentioned in .8
    works great!
    
    Thanks again for the help!
    Bill

    I keep getting the message that Music_box.arc is "Not an Archieve"
    
    I have used Kermit with the parm "Set File Type Binary" and also
    
    used Zmodem with the same success.
    
    Also wanted to add that whoever is responsible for these files,
    
    could they please Vaxmail me and let me know how to copy some
    
    new files to the area. I have a Midi Real Time Processor Demo
    
    that some may find interesting and also a shreware Librarian for
    
    the D10. I also have Zmodem for the Vax if anybody wants/needs it.
    
    Thanks....
    
    Jim
    

	Jim, I've got a copy of Musicbox (downloaded from IEMUG) I'll put
	up if you can't get a good copy out of MIDILIB.  Let me know... 


	John Stewart

    
    I have exprienced similar results trying to de-arc Musicbox with VSWEEP
    i.e it blows up.
    I'll like to get a de-arced copy.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Errol Phillips