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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:	* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:	DYPSS1::SCHAFER

Created:	Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:	Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2852
Total number of notes:	33157

2130.0. "pipe organ midi. Help!!!" by GIDDAY::BRUCE () Thu Sep 28 1989 22:17

    This is just a quick note to start off. Will supply more info later.
    
    I am interested in putting midi out onto a pipe organ.  Spec is for two
    channels of midi on each of three keyboards and pedalboard. 8 channels
    in total.  Also considering putting grand piano onto organ by using a
    Yamaha disclavier with midi in. This will possibly require an
    additional channel or three.
    
    Does anyone know of any products that will connect to organ keyswitches 
    and provide midi out.  All information  is wellcome. I have seen
    references to products from Forte?? which may (or may not) be suitable,
    but I don't think there is a local contact in Australia.
    
    This is a pipe organ going into a new performing arts centre and midi
    is seen as being desirable. At this stage only midi out is being
    considered. 
     
    All views, opinions, information, etc. is wellcome.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    	David Bruce

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2130.1	Probably not too difficult...	WEFXEM::COTE	No, Kelly. I said wits...	`Fri Sep 29 1989 09:29`	7
	Forte seems to be THE company for MIDI retrofits... The multiple channels you seek can be handled by an off the shelf out- board processor, so that's not a problem. All you need is something to generate the note information from the organ keyboard... Edd
2130.2	I'll find some info...	FGVAXX::LAING	Soft-Core CuddlerJim Laing282-1476	`Fri Sep 29 1989 13:17`	5
	I have some info on a company in Canada that specializes in this. I also subscribe to 2 pipe-organ-related magazines. I'll look around this weekend for some info on this topic, and post what I find ... -Jim
2130.3	Here's some info ...	FGVAXX::LAING	Soft-Core CuddlerJim Laing282-1476	`Mon Oct 02 1989 11:27`	23
	Here's the info on 2 companies that I had info on ... InterMIDI, Inc. (408) 335-3985 P.O. Box 127, Mount Hermon, CA 95041-0127 They have a several-page brochure; they mention that their converters have been installed in a variety of pipe and electronic organs. MIDITEC 453 Darwin Crescent Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada P7B 5W5 (807) 345-MIDI This company also sent me a several-page brochure, in which they describe their MIDI products for installation in organs. Hope this info helps! -Jim
2130.4	More info now posted.	GIDDAY::BRUCE		`Thu Oct 05 1989 08:11`	44
	Thanks for the replies so far. Here is the more info I promised. I am aware of some other products. Can anyone help with details. 1. Devtronix. They say that they have a MIDI interface for pipe organs (This is a seperate unit to their multi-action relay system). I wrote for more info and they told me that they have not gone into production yet.(although they are advertising it with price details). Their unit appears to be for 4 channels only and provides 1 channel for each of three keyboards and pedalboard. If so this will not be suitable as it will not have enough channels. They have a prototype fitted to theiir demo organ. Can anyone provide me with more info on this one?? 2. Rodgers/Roland. I have seen a Rodgers electronic organ fitted with MIDI. The model I saw was fitted with a Roland MT-32 as standard. This seemed to provide 1 channel for each of two keyboards and pedalboard. I know it sent on three channels and recieved on only one. Channel assignments were fixed. With this combination it is possible to program the MT-32 by pressing a key on the organ keyboard. In other words there were 122 (2 x 61) pre-programmed sounds available. Is this a feature of the MT-32 or is this a clever MIDI processor in the Rodgers unit itself. Rodgers are also talking about their new MIDI-2 system?? What can anyone tell me about this one. Now that Rodgers and Roland are effectively one will Rodgers use standard Roland MIDI processors?? RE .1 Does anyone have an address, etc for Forte.? RE .3 Thank you for the info. I will send for more details from the companies you suggested. The plan for this MIDI system is to use the Swell Pedals of the organ to provide Velocity information as per Rodgers. We will also think about providing true velocity touch on one keyboard. The two lower keyboards will have 2nd touch fitted to them and it may also be desirable to couple MIDI to 2nd touch. Any comments on any of this. David Bruce
2130.5	Address for Forte?	DYO780::SCHAFER	Brad - boycott hell.	`Tue Oct 17 1989 12:07`	15
	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note 2137.0 Forte/Roland/Rodgers/Devtronix info required No replies GIDDAY::BRUCE 10 lines 16-OCT-1989 22:37 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have an address for Forte. I was pointed to them in my earlier note 2130.0 but was not provided with an address. Also does anyone know anything about Devtronix and/or Rodgers/Roland MIDI systems as described in 2130.4 I need as much info on this as possible. Please!! David Bruce
2130.6	Pointer, Roland address, etc...	DYO780::SCHAFER	Brad - boycott hell.	`Tue Oct 17 1989 12:14`	14
	The address for Forte is in note 5.32. Can't tell you much more about the other stuff. You might try contacting Roland directly ... I don't know if there's a Roland stub down under or not. If not, call or write to: Roland Corp US 7200 Dominion Circle Los Angeles, CA 90040 213-685-5141 I've never heard of Devtronix. -b