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    I own an old one of their products, so my wild a** guesses are:
    it has taps in the regen loop
    it's probably non-midi
    it's probably 8-bits companded
    Tom

    
    The 3.6 second delay is non-MIDI, non-programmable and only has
    8 KHz bandwidth.  

    Greg House at CSC32::G_HOUSE had one for sale a while back.  He
    may still have it.
    
    Mike

    Mine isn't a RDS 3.6, but a RDS 3600 (the next one up the line). 
    
    The RDS 3.6 is a rack mount unit, definately mono and definately not
    Midi controllable.  If it's anything like the 3600, it's very reliable
    and quiet.  The 3600 has a LED display showing the delay time, but the
    3.6 does not.  I don't remember what the bandwidth is for the 3.6, but
    the 3600 is switch selectable, allowing you to cut the max delay time
    in favor of increased bandwidth (ie. @7.2sec max delay, you get 4k
    bandwidth range, 3.6sec @8k, or 1.6 @16k).
    
    BTW, I'm still selling the 3600, but it's currently spoken for.
    
    Greg

    Hmmm, interesting....
    I plan to use my effects almost exclusively for guitar, I'm wondering
    if 8KHz bandwidth is enough. As far as it being NOT MIDI, I could
    always retrofit it with one of those Electronic Musician projects
    that have showed up recently. 
    I make alot of my own stuff, but a DDL may be just a bit much to
    tackle. I'm in no hurry, I might just sit on the $400, and look
    around somemore and see what pops up.
    
    Thanks,
    Denis.

    
    	Denis, 
    	The way I understand it, the bandwidth narrows to 8kHz
    	at FULL delay. Another thing to consider is most 12"
    	speakers have poor response above 6 or 7khz anyway. Your
    	rig, or just about anyone's guitar rig is bandwidth limited
    	starting with the pickups. IMHO, the 3.6 would sound great
    	with your guitar, even though it's not stereo, or MIDI.
    		
    	Neal-who-owns-a-3.6

    I agree with Neil, I think that the bandwidth is adequate for guitar.  
    
    Did you say $400???  If someone wants to charge you $400 for that thing
    you are being cheated royally!  I wouldn't pay over about $125 for one
    in premium condition.
    
    Greg

	As far as bandwidth is concerned, I recently had an Alesis MicroVerb
	(the earlier model), and it rolled off all my high end when I used
	distortion (I didn't like the sound at all!!). You may want to
	test what ever you plan to buy in a configuration that you plan
	to use it in. The MicroVerb sounded fine otherwise, but, since I
	use distortion sometimes, I didn't like the end result.

								Jens

    For $400 you could probably get the new ART Delay System VII!  It
    lists for $499.  It's features (from brochure) are:
    
    - A dedicated, studio designed professional digital delay/sampler
    - Studio quality echos, delays, doubling, flanging, chorusing
    - Full programmability and storage capability
    - 20-20kHz frequency response
    - Infinite delay and feedback variability
    - ART's new Harmonically Accurate circuitry
    - Infinite repeat capability
    - Variable function footswitch control
    - Ultra-wide sweep of modultation width and speed
    - MIDI interface; activate via external MIDI source
    
    Mike
    

    I thought I might have read the sticker wrong, so I gave the store
    a call. It's on consingment, the owner wanting $399. The store thought
    it was a little high. I'm going to look around for an ART or Multiverb,
    or whatever I come across.
    
    Thanks All,
    
    Denis.

    Might want to check out the Alesis Quadraverb while you're looking. Up
    to 4FX at once, up to 1.5 sec delay, and can be had for $399.  Less
    pricey than the Multiverb. 

-b

    
    	Or get a Digitech MSP-4. Four effects at once, up to 1.5 sec
    delay, assignable continuous midi controllers. For $269. 
    Take all the money you save and send it to me........
    
    				Rich
    

    >It's on consingment, the owner wanting $399. The store thought
    >it was a little high.
    
    A *little* high??  It's a LOT high!  Matter of fact, if that guy or
    that store thinks he'll get anywhere close to that *they* must be high. 
    
    It didn't cost that much NEW!  It didn't even list for that much...
    
    Second on the Quadraverb or Multiverb.  MidiverbIIs are going for
    really good prices these days too.  I don't know how much delay you can
    get from them though.  All these units can be had for around $400 or
    less. 
    
    Greg

    
    	You can't get diddly delay out of a MVII. Just a long slapback.
    I've seen MVII's going for $100 used. ........Rich
    

    I just got a catalog (out of the blue sky) from a place called The
    Musicians Friend.  They are still selling the Digitech 3.6 and the
    price for a brand new unit?
    

    
    
    $219!
    
    Forget the used junk...
    
    Greg