Conference napalm::commusic_v1

    Well, I went out and bought the Mark-III V2.1.  Got it home and
    spent all night playing with it.  For what I do, it's great.
    
    I was able to input a song of about 75 measures from piano music in
    about 3 hours.  That included dividing the song into parts and tracks,
    adjusting dynamics and tempo, putting in some MIDI program changes, and
    playing the song over and over until I got it "just right."
    
    A word about the Demo software in .0: It's for version 3.0, and
    2.1 is what's in the stores now.  Salesman called Voyetra for me
    and said that the upgrade to version 3.0 is free. 
    
    Dave

    Demo now in the MIDILIB, at:

	DYO780::DISK$USER05:[midilib.tools.ibm.voyetra]*.*

    Enjoy.

-b

>< Note 2083.1 by BAGELS::SREBNICK "Bad pblm now? Wait 'til we solve it!" >

>    Well, I went out and bought the Mark-III V2.1.  Got it home and
>    spent all night playing with it.  For what I do, it's great.

>    A word about the Demo software in .0: It's for version 3.0, and
>    2.1 is what's in the stores now.  Salesman called Voyetra for me
>    and said that the upgrade to version 3.0 is free. 

I have SEQ plus Mrk III V 2.1 also. I hope what you're saying about the
FREE unpgrade is true. I just got a flyer from Voyetra saying that the 
upgrade will cost $75 (to go from V2.0 to V3.0).

Although it doesn't get much press and is not glamorous like some of the MAC
sequencers, I still think (even more so now with V3.0) that Sequencer Plus
Mark III is the most powerful sequencer on the market today.

Mike D

    I hope the salesman's right, too.  I have a call in to Voyetra just
    to be sure.
    
    Sometimes it depends when you buy the software.  If the new release
    comes out within "n" months of your purchase date, some companies
    give some upgrades for free.  Maybe I made the deadline and you
    didn't.  I guess we'll find out when I get my flyer.

    I just got the  Voyetra flyer several days ago and this is the free
    update policy:
    
    'If you purchased ver 2.0 after May 15, 1989 and registered the
    program, the update to ver 3.0 for the same level is free (eg. Sp2v2.0
    to Sp2v3.0).  Please include a dated store receipt with your name
    on it as proof of purchase.'
    
    Otherwise the upgrades are as follows (only showing Mark III):
    
    If you own Sp3v2.0:
    
    Sp3v2.0 to Sp3v3.0 (includes new user's manual.)		$75.00
    
    If you own Sp3v2.0 and Patch Master Plus:
                       
    Sp3v2.0 w/PM+ to Sp3v3.0 (includes addendum.)		$25.00
                                                                    
    
    I also have all the other confusing upgrade, update, new purchase
    information if anybody wants me to post it.
    
    
    Bruce
    

    
    
    Voyetra is keeping pace with the new move to dual bus MIDI/Multi-port 
    interface here is a decscription of their new offering that
    I got from the USENET.
    
    **************************************************************************
    
Article        16835
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From: [email protected] (Pete Lyall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: New Multi-port Voyetra Midi Interfaces
Keywords: midi Voyetra IBM interface
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 19 Oct 90 22:55:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Organization: Contel FSD, Westlake Village, CA
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I just spotted this on CompuServe's MIDI Forum.... I'll post the other
file when I get hold of it..
 
Pete Lyall
 
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#: 33346 S7/MS DOS (IBM/compat)
    19-Oct-90  14:47:11
Sb: Voyetra Announcement 2
Fm: carl 71141,3422
To: Voyetra Technologies - 71141,3422
 
Here's our official statement concerning the release of our V-22/-24s MIDI
interfaces. To receive a free copy of our newsletter that details all of our
new products and prices, please call us at 1-800-233-9377.
 
Our new V-22/-24s multi-port MIDI interfaces couple a professional SMPTE
reader/ generator with a "Yamaha C1-style" multi-port interface. We opted to
make MPU compatibility an option on our system because an increasing number of
MIDI programs use the MPU in "UART mode" to avoid the limitations of
"intelligent mode." Since we were so impressed by the versatility of the Yamaha
C1, we decided to bring its innovative features to desktop PC's.
 
In tandem with designing the V-22/-24s, we developed "VAPI," our new universal
MIDI protocol. With VAPI, MIDI developers can easily port their C1 software to
run on the V-22/-24s, with the added benefit that it will also run on any other
VAPI supported hardware. VAPI is very similar to the Yamaha CAPI spec. If
you're a programmer and want to support the V22/-24s VAPI driver, please call
us for details.
 
The V-22/-24s provides a low-cost, multi- port, SMPTE interface with an easy
upgrade path. This makes it easy to buy only what you need, with the confidence
of being able to trade-up rather than trade-in.
 
Four models are available: V-22/ V-22m/ V-24s/ V24sm.
 
Its easy to upgrade between these models, since each is based on the same, 1/3
length PC bus card. A small module using the Roland MPU chip set plugs into the
card, turning it into a V-22m (for "Mpu"), providing 100% MPU-401
compatibility. A SMPTE module adds two ports, audio click detector and SMPTE.
The combination of a SMPTE module, connector box and V-22 card comprises the
V-24s (2 in/ 4 out with SMPTE.) Adding the MPU module makes this a V-24sm.
 
The modular design of the new V-22/-24s helps to assure nonobsolescence while
providing all the features needed for any PC MIDI application.
 
Prices are as follows:
 
V-22 (2 in 2 out)                              = $129.95
 
V-22m (2 in 2 out/MPU-401 Compatible)          = $ 219.95 
 	With trade-in of MPU-compatible interface = $169.95 
 
V-24s (2 in 4 out/ SMPTE)                      = $299.95 
 
V-24sm (2 in 4 out/ SMPTE/ MPU-401 Compatible) = $389.95 
	With trade-in of MPU-compatible interface      = $339.95 
 
MSMPTE (SMPTE upgrade for V-22)                = $199.95 
 
MMPU (MPU Module for V-22/-24s)                = $ 99.95
 
For a limited time, we're offering a $50 discount on the V-22M and V-24SM
interfaces if you send in any manufacturer's MPU-401 compatible interface with
your order.
 
For a complete list and description of these new features, as well as the
details concerning our MPU trade in offer, please refer to the file called
SP4SPEX.DOC.
 
Carl Franklin VOYETRA Technologies
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	I've downloaded this and have been trying to use it now that I have a 
Music Quest MPU-401 compatible interface. I've got this in a VAXmate and have 
to change the IRQ on the board to IRQ7 as IRQ2 is used by the Ethernet 
controller (I think). Unfortunately the Voyetra sequencer expects the MPU-401 
to be at IRQ2 and I can't find any way to change this setting. Now I can do 
this with Cakewalk and guess that it must be possible with Sequencer Plus if 
only I knew the necessary invocation.

	Anyone using Voyetra who knows how to change this?

Nigel

A friend of mine has Sequencer Plus, and he's using it with his M1.
He asked me if I knew the best way to store dumps -- presumably SYSEX --
from the M1 using his sequencer.

I said I didn't know, but I knew some people who did!

Anyone help out? 

Richard. 

    I know that just about all hardware sequencer allow you to dump
    SYSEX data to them, however I don't know if software sequencer
    general come with that ability.
    
    I also use Sequencer Plus with an M1, I use GETIT (Shareware) to
    dump to my PC. I have tried dump to Sequencer Plus but it did not 
    work.  GETIT is very reliable. I also got some shareware stuff
    that saves individual patches and that also have a Random Patch 
    Generator. If you are interested drop me a line.
    
    Errol

I pulled the demo over to my PC and there was no users guide (of any sort).
Since I don't yet have a MIDI card (it won't be MPU-401 compatable -
Voyetra doesn't require it), I can't try any of the functions. The Screens
are quite nice, but I'd like to run down the features and try to figure out
what it's doing. The MIDI card I ordered will have a VAPI software driver,
so anything that supports VAPI should work (this includes Cakewalk, not
just Voyetra).

The implication is that this is all very straight forward (and it doesn't 
really look too confusing when run), but I'd like to know what the general
logic is for the software, and general Voyetra features (maybe this is asking
too much for a free demo). Anyone want to elaborate? The recent EM on 
sequencers for MSDOS PC's has some details, but it's pretty much overviews
of many sequencers, and not this one in particular.

								Jens

    Well, assuming (yeah I know about ass u me) that it version 3.0.
    I'll give it go.
    
    There are three screen you need to care about at first-:
    o The main screen that comes up when you boot the software, 
    o The View screen- breaks the sequence down by beats
    o Options screen - set tempo, lead in (for punch-ins) etc
    
    Spacebar - start and stops play sequences (stops recording)
    R key    - put you in record mode, spacebar starts the recording
    O key    - get you to Options screen (PF3 from any screen)
    ESC key  - gets you back one screen
    P        - Puts you in Punch-in mode 
    V        - Gets you to the View screen, from here you can manipulate
               tracks. Copy, delete, move etc.  
               E key from here gets you to the edit note screen(never used
               it) 
    
    
    I found the package very easy to use and I have never really used the
    manual much.  If you live/come to the the Nashua area and would like
    a demo I would be more than happy to show it to you. I also have a demo
    version of the new Cakewalk package which is nice if you like using a
    mouse, plus it has a bulk dump librarian which saves the dump seperately
    from the sequence thus not using up sequence memory.  Then there is the
    new Voyetra with the Universal librarian...........alright I would shut
    up now.
    
    Regards,
    
    Errol

Sorry, I'm in Colorado Springs. I'm just trying to compare packages before
I buy anything. Thanks for the info, it's not really what I wanted (but the
CAKEWALK demo info isn't either - I guess I was looking for technical specs
as well as how things worked within those bounds.

>    Then there is the
>    new Voyetra with the Universal librarian

I need a patch librarian (in particular one for ESQ-1's, CZ-101's and Roland
D series/MT-32's). Is this what you ment by Universal Librarian?

							Jens

    Yep, that's what is meant by Universal librarian. The instruments
    you mention CZ101, Roland D series and MT32 and all included on their
    list of supported instruments. According to their flier you can do the
    following.
          - Programs can be accessed individually which
            allows them to be audtioned, listed ,renamed, copied,
            rearranged into new banks, etc 
    
     I had a friend you recently had to make the same decision, he went
    with cakewalk becuase he like the user interface (pull down menus with
    mouse support).  I'd go with Voyetra if I had the money, I really like
    the MIDI volume and pan setting on each track. Seperate volume and pan
    track just clutter thing up as far as I am concern.
    
    Sorry I have no technical specs have never seen any either, just
    functional spec. I have a copy of the Voyetra and Cakewalk
    newsletters.
     
    Errol(who is not affliated with either Voyetra or Cakewalk)