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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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2082.0. "Summer 89 NAMM summary from EM" by NORGE::CHAD (Ich glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tte) Tue Aug 15 1989 11:56

I didn't see anything about a summer NAMM topic doing a DIR/TITLE=NAMM
so here goes.

The latest EM (sep 89) came yesterday and gives a short rundown of new toys.
Here is a summary.  Prices are assumed list.

Alesis: DataDisk -- universal sysex storage device using 3.5" disk.  1U. $399
        MidiVerb III --  a programmable MVII with 3 fx at once. $399

Brother: MDI-30 and MDI-40 hardware sequencers with built in drive. $299.95 
         and 379.95.

Digital Music Corporatoin: MX-28S ($89) 2 x 8 MIDI router/patcher.
                           MX-28M ($149) as S model with added merge, map
                                  transpose, and panic button.

Furman:  wall bug eliminators

Atari:  STacy (I'll believe it when the stores can sell me one - Chad :-)
        A 1040 portable/laptop.  Picture shows dual drives and integrated 
        display and trackball. ($1495)

Digidesign: C-Lab Combiner, a hardware key expander (3 simultaneous keys)
	    for Atari ST.  $349
            C-Lab Human Touch Audio Trigger Expander ($249).  Allows analog 
            source to control tempo with Creator/Notator

Roland: CM Series including CM-32L (repackaged MT32 expanded), CM-32P (more
            or less a repackaged U-110 -- accepts U110 cards), CM-64 (a 32L and
            32P together), CA-30 intelligent arranger, CF-10 digital fader
            form MIDI CC7 and CC10 (pan).  prices repectively: $650, $795, 
            $1395, $595, $240, $240

B�hm:  A 92(!) key master controller.  $2495

Kawai:  K4 synth.  Uses samples.  Add for it also in EM.  $1395.

Korg:  T1 -- had a small picture of this.  88key with disk M1 with mega ROM.

Kurzweil:  900MX   $959

Roland: S-770  16bit sampler (20 bit DAC) 2mb (--> 16mb) RAM, internal 40 meg
        hard drive, digital I/O, scsi, CD and DAT compatible sampling rates,
        20 voice polyphony.  $7995
        U-20  cleaned up U110 with keyboard and synth like parameters. $1695
        Rhodes EPs using Rolands SA piano (structured adaptive stuff)

        GP-16   12fx guitar processer."produces remarkable stereo effects" $1195
        M-120  1U 12 input line mixer. 2 fx sends  $595.
          
           

Yamaha: X4500. synthesis engine blends PCM and FM. 8 voice polyphony, 40 drum 
        sounds. 61 keys.  under $2000.  X3500 downscaled version.  under $1500
	MT3X 4track cassette recorder. 6channel mixer, dbx, etc. $995

Tascam: portastudio 644 and 688 MIDIstudios.  644 16 inputs 4 track, 688 20
        inputs 8 track.  $1499 and $3299.

Digitech: Harmoney Machine.  Downscaled IPS-33 smart shift. $559.
          Metal Machine.  rack mount multi effects with comp, distortion, eq
          and digital effects. $369
          DSP-256 4fx unit. full bandwidth, continuous midi control of all
          parameters. $499
          MEQ 28 single channel 28 band eq $499
          MEQ 14 double channel 14 band eq $499
          MEQ 7 quad channel 7 band eq $525

Fostex: 2016 line mixer 2U with 2 8x2 mixers that can function as 1 16x2 $1400

Lexicon: LXP-5  half rack multi fx (matches and complements LXP-1) with 3 octave
         pitch shift, chorus and flange, eq, reverb.  some MIDI control.


Coda:  Reduced FINALE to $599 and cleaned it up.  Also MusicProse ($249) a 
       finale jr. (MAC)

C-Lab (digidesign) released X-alyzer for ST.  DX/TX editor that can also take DX
       patches and convert to samples.

       Explorer M1, 32, and 1000.  Editors/Librarians for M1, Roland Ds, and 
       Matrix-1000 (and matrix 6).  ($195, $195, $150)

       C-lab also announced Atari Multitasking OS 

DR-Ts:  TIGER.  Works with standard MIDI files from any sequencer.

Steinberg/Jones:  Avalon -- universal sample editor for ST $349



A lot of other stuff was mentioned too.

Chad
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2082.1PNO::HEISERCold Rock the Groove!Tue Aug 15 1989 14:113
    Where is the NAMM show going to be held?
    
    Mike
2082.2schon vorbeiNORGE::CHADIch glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tteTue Aug 15 1989 14:396
It is already been held.  In Chicago I believe.  It happens twice
a year.  Once in summer and once in winter.  It is a trade show, not a 
"Open to the public" show.  Its where companies show new products and
dealers order them etc.

Chad
2082.3on the lighter side ...MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326Wed Aug 16 1989 10:0479
    This month's MUSICIAN (probably the last issue before my subscription
    deep six's) has two reviews of NAMM.  The high points have pretty
    much already been mentioned, but there were a couple of funny things.
     
    First, some called it the "Wake at the Lake", referring to how boring
    it was.
    
    Then, there was a joke:  What's the difference between Elvis and
    the NAMM?
    
    Some people think Elvis is still alive ...
    
    There was also a cute thing they put in the back of the issue about
    interviews (printed without permission, so don't tell anybody):
    
When rock stars say ...			They really mean ...
    
I couldn't care less about my image.	I've got a $5,000 a month
					publicist, photo approval and
					a hair weave.

Music isn't about how fast you play.	I've got rotten chops.
    
I never read the critics.		The critics hate me.
    
I don't believe in mixing politics 	I voted for Bush.
with music.	

That's a really good question!		I have a pat answer.
    
Off the record ...			I want you to take the blame
					for saying this.
    
That's completely untrue!		Who the &*$# told you?
    
I don't bother about the business 	I've got a great accountant.
side.	

That's a very interesting story ...	It will take me half an hour
					to tell it.
    
The producer ruined my last record.	My last record bombed.
    
You've got to try new things.		My last two records bombed.
    
This time I wanted to get back to	My last three records bombed.
basics.

You're the first one who ever		What a stupid interpretation.
caught that.

He's quite eccentric.			He's quite a jerk.
    
I will never endorse a product.		No one's asked me.
    
Bruce is a nice guy.			What's so wonderful about *him*
					anyway?
    
MUSICIAN has really gone down hill.	They won't give me the cover.
    
I hate doing interviews.		Here comes the media blitz.
    
I don't care about money.		I'm really rich.
    
I wanted to try mixing different 	I wanted to rip off somebody
styles ...				else.
    
I've said this before ...		I've said this in five interviews
					this week.
    
I'm not a folkie.			I'm a folkie.
    
That label knows nothing about 		They dropped me.
selling records.

    
I refuse to make videos.		I'm ugly.
    
I'll have the lobster.			You're buying.
2082.4yahooHAMER::COCCOLIjust gimme Park AvenueThu Aug 17 1989 21:2013
    
    	Not mentioned in .0 yet just purchased by yours truly is the
    Digitech MSP-4, the new inexpensive ($265) version of the Dsp 128+.
    Fourteen algorithms to choose from, and continuous midi control
    on any algorithm parameter.
    Does: reverb,delay,flange,chorus, and eq.
          20hz to 12Khz dry, up to 20khz wet. Stereo in's and out's.
    	
    				Big bang per buck........
    
    				Rich
    
    	
2082.5Education needed...WJO::MASHIAGo placidly amid the noise and haste.Fri Aug 18 1989 11:5018
Re .4:	    
    Two questions:
    
>>    20hz to 12Khz dry, up to 20khz wet. 
    
    I think I know what 'wet' and 'dry' mean, but I don't understand how
    or why they can be different.  I would think the 'dry' would just be
    the original input signal passed thru.
    
    >> Stereo in's and out's.
    
    Does this mean that there are two independent channels?  If not, what
    does it mean?
    
    Rodney
       
    	
    
2082.6CANDID::stephConstants aren't. Variables don't.Fri Aug 18 1989 16:5623
Re: wet versus dry.

You got it.  The dry signal is not passed through the digital
processing at all, it is mixed in an analog fashion with the output of
the signal processor.

Re: stereo.

If it is like the DSP-128, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that it
is, the stereo signal is passed through the dry path, but combined to
mono before it enters the digital processor.  The output of the signal
processor is stereo.

What this means is that you can't, for example, set up the unit as two
separate delay lines using the left and right channels.  However, it
will generate delay effects which use the stereo field, e.g. a
multi-tap delay where the taps are placed from left to right.  Chorus's
and flanges are stereo effects, too.

It sounds like they just reduced the cost on the original DSP-128
chassis and gave it a new name.

Steph
2082.7yuppersHAMER::COCCOLIjust gimme Park AvenueFri Aug 18 1989 19:1411
    
    	Re.-1
    You got it. Except the original dsp128 was three effects. MSP4 is
    four. The only differance I can see between the MSP4 and the DSP128+
    is the MSP4 has 14 algorythms while the DSP+ uses 17.   
       Also, I believe the DSP128+ has been discontinued in favor of
    the DSP256. The MSP4 fills the low-end gap. Marketing devils!.
                                              
    
    				Rich