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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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2072.0. "Hints and Materials for Developing Keyboard Chops" by GLORY::SCHAFER (Brad - banished to Michigan.) Mon Aug 07 1989 12:12

    I'm looking for exercises and/or course material that I might use to
    further my keyboard chops.  (I'm also posting what I currently do in
    hopes that someone will learn a new trick or two.)
    
    I've been using C.L. Hanon's 60 exercises, but am finding them a bit
    limiting.  In an attempt to glean a bit more timing accuracy and
    hand-independence, I've been doing the exercises hand-over (left over
    right) and repeating each measure twice before moving on to the next,
    but I'm still feeling stifled.
    
    I've also been doing the 12 major scales (4 octaves up-down) and all
    modes for each scale, including finishing off with arpeggiated 7ths in
    contrary motion up-down one octave.
    
    I'd like to know about some different exercises (both classical and
    jazz-oriented - someone mentioned Aebersold once?) and perhaps some
    different ways of using Hanon to develop dexterity and speed.
    
    Anyone else use a drum machine to practice Hanon?
    
-b
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2072.1..or transpose into different keys!SALSA::MOELLERMean, with a large deviationMon Aug 07 1989 13:5217
    One thing that makes Hanon more aurally palatable is to play them
    in tenths.. left hand starting on C2, right hand on E3.
    
    Hand independence.. one thing that has helped me enourmously is
    playing... boogie-woogie.  It strengthens my left hand, which can
    play autonomously, leaving the right to do scalar or chordal stuff,
    including 3-against-4 type rhythms.
    
    Czerny's 'Schule der Gelaufigkeit' (School of Velocity) is a solid
    approach to scalar work, though without the determined effort to
    make each hand do identical work.
    
    re Hanon.. try playing it very slowly to a metronome, concentrating
    on evenness of velocity.. and yes, I use drum parts sometimes as
    metronome substitutes.
    
    karl
2072.2an old routineAICAD::GMIYATAGaylord K Miyata DLB5-2/B3 291-8199Mon Aug 07 1989 17:2015
When I took piano lessons, I used to have to do each Hanon exercise in all 
(major) keys.  You can also find other permutations on each exercise.

Scales (major, 3 minors, whatever other modes you want) - did each scale in all
keys, up/down 1 octave at quarter notes, 2 octaves at eighth notes, 3 octaves
at triplets, 4 octaves at sixteenths; same tempor.  each variation started 
from the same position on the keyboard.  This was done parallel motion, you 
can do contrary motion, diff. intervals etc.

Same thing w/ arpeggios - major, minor, 7ths, etc.

Chords, went thru the diff chords in diff. positions, all inversions, 
transposing to all keys.  

Tedious, but if that's what you need to do ...
2072.3lots of speed, weak on expression/independenceDYO780::SCHAFERBrad - back in Ohio.Tue Aug 08 1989 14:0817
    Thanks for the Czerny pointer, K.  I may check it out.

    Gaylord - how in thunder can you work out fingerings for Hanon in "all
    major keys"?  I have been patently unsuccessful at doing this (and
    believe me, I've tried).  I've also been the 4th/8th/16th route ...
    I've even been to the point of being able to play the first 15 or 20
    exercises cleanly at around 140 bpm.  

    What I'm trying to do is to develop a bit more hand independence and
    stretch while maintaining the speed that I have.  So far, the only
    thing that's worked at all is doing hands over on scales and Hanon.
    Maybe I oughta break out the Bach again (sigh) - or take Karl's cue and
    start playing some boogie or Joplin again. 

    Keep those cards and letters coming.

-b
2072.4Try dotted rhythmsEVER11::WAKEWed Aug 09 1989 13:5311
    (Not that I can do them now, but...)
    
    A suggestion from my former teacher: 
    
    Once you can play an exercise at a given speed in, say, quarter notes,
    learn it at the corresponding dotted rhythm before increasing  the
    tempo.  The total exercise will take the same amount of time, but you
    get practice playing some notes quickly.  I found this helped a lot
    when trying to overcome a tempo plateau.
    
    		--Bill Wake