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1949.1 | Initial Review | TYFYS::MOLLER | Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7 | Tue Apr 04 1989 14:51 | 66 |
| I got it last night & it works nicely. I took 21 Quick Disks (2.8 inch,
60 Kbyte) and moved them over to 1 3.5 inch disk.
I was surprized that Thoroughbred music would send me a used demo unit,
with no warrentee card, or a demo unit with no serial number on it (the
MIDI IN/OUT/THRU and POWER connectors were marked on the back with a
stick on label that someone had typed on). I would have suspected that
Brad would have mentioned that he would not be selling me a new unit.
I do have a call into them to find out what is going on. The power
supply 'bug' is about the size of my 7 week old Cocker Spaniel puppy,
and I'm surprized by this. It does work, however.
The instructions that I got are 'pre-release' and have a few typo's,
but in general are pretty simple to understand. You have to remember to
'CLEAR' the onboard memory before loading or unloading a disk file.
This relates to the 128K byte internal buffer, and that you can load
multiple files into the same buffer. This allows you to build a set
of MIDI sysex files to be sent to random devices. You can set a delay
between sysex messages being sent out.
The MidiDISK has some ultility functions that allow you to do
directories, format disks, clear the interal memory, tell you how much
free space is left on the disk (all of the numbers are in HEX, but they
provide a table in the manual to help you figure out what the numbers
mean). You can also create a custom sysex request from the front panel.
You can delete a file (based on the file number) and then write a new
file out in it's place that is larger than the original (these files
are saved as variable length files).
I find that the disk loads to my MMT-8 sequencer or ESQ-1 sequencer
are at most 10 seconds, and since I can pre-buffer a sysex dump for
either or both in the internal buffer, I can load both in about 15
seconds (the ESQ-1 has the 10,000 note expander in it), and after it
sends the data down to the MIDI devices, I can pre-load the 128K buffer
with the next set of sequences, allowing me to hit the SEND key & ship
it off in 3 to 7 seconds.
Let me explain, reading the disk takes from 3 to 8 seconds, sending the
data down to the MIDI devices takes 3 to 7 seconds. The pre-load saves
some time. I have usually 4 to 6 songs in the MMT-8 and 2 songs in the
ESQ-1's sequencer.
There is also a BOOT function that allows you to run an upgraded
version of the software (if one ever becomes available).
On the front panel, there are a bank of numeric buttons (0 to 9) that
are used to select the file number and enter certain types of data.
There is a 4 digit display (7 segment - Green) that returns the status
messages & indicates the current functions. As usual, letters are made
by these displays & are a combination of upper/lower case. There are 2
buttons for the disk LOAD and STORE. These are used to LOAD the
internal memory from DISK or STORE the internal memory to DISK. There
are 2 MIDI related buttons, SEND and RECEIVE. SEND sends what ever is
in the internal buffer to the MIDI OUT port, RECEIVE collects what ever
MIDI sysex data arrives at the MIDI IN port. You have to remember to
CLEAR the memory between operations, otherwise, it's real simple to
use.
Since I plan on adding more MIDI gear that I want to be able to send
random sysex data as needed, this looks like a good solution to me.
Jens
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1949.2 | That's NOT like the Thououghbred I know. | LEDDEV::ROSS | shiver me timbres.... | Wed Apr 05 1989 11:45 | 9 |
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Sounds like pre-production or seed units. New company, right?
Id sure be peeved if that price is for the 'mature' units, and
I was charged the same amount for an 'almost' unit.....even
if it's bug free....
rr
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1949.3 | You're not the only one who is baffled | TYFYS::MOLLER | Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7 | Wed Apr 05 1989 12:42 | 40 |
| I can't argue that. Brad's wife was in the process of having a baby
yesterday (some women can be so inconsiderate of my needs, you know -
just kidding), so he was not available to comment. I called IVM's
support group & I think that it's a snafu on someones part. I'm still
working to resolve it. I poped the box open to see if there was a
serial number in there, but, it's only got a PC card, the disk, and
some cables connecting the front board to everything.
So far it works flawlessly. I was also wrong about the output being in
HEX, in reality, it's just how it looked at first glance. The display
shows a letter 'F' in the first digit when ever it's displaying File
sizes (this ain't in the pre-release documentation, but that's what
I figured out), so to see how much space is on the disk, you use the
FREE function, and it comes back with F797 if the disk is empty (just
freshly formatted), with means 797 K bytes available. You can also
ask it how large the buffer in memory is (COrE function), that way
you can see if what you want to write to the disk will fit anywhere on
the available disk.
If you want to swap out disks & check them, there is no problem in
doing so, as the software always checks the current disk, and makes no
assumptions about the last disk access (allows you to swap disks as
needed). General disk operations don't affect the internal buffer,
unless you specifically LOAD the internal buffer. For example, I've
made 3 sets of disks, WORKING, BACKUP and MASTER. When I want to
write the data, I do a SYSEX save to the IVM MidiDISK internal buffer,
then do saves to the disks one at a time (If I need to delete a file
before doing this, I can - In otherwords, I've been using it to load
existing sequences, modify them, delete the old file, then write the
new sequences back to the disk).
I really like it. I just want to figure out how to square away some of
these oddities that cropped up.
As you noted, the company is fairly new to the consumer MIDI
marketplace. I understand that they are into Aerospace electronics &
decided to branch out (Sort of like Kaman did; Making Helecopter gear
and Ovation guitars).
Jens
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1949.4 | It was a Dark and Stormy Night | TYFYS::MOLLER | Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7 | Wed Apr 05 1989 16:36 | 22 |
| More to the ongoing saga. Brad says that he took one out of stock,
compeletly boxed & mailed it to me. As far as he is aware, it is
'As Shipped From The Factory' and was not a demo unit. Based on other
peoples positive statements about Thoroughbred Music, I suspect that
this is what happened. So, I called IVM & they said that they may have
shipped it this way, but doubt it (I would suspect this answer), but,
they will follow up & find out what happened.
Brad says that he can't keep them on the shelves & sell them as fast as
they get them (this relates to a severe shortage of RAM chips that the
IVM rep told me about & they can't keep ahead of orders). When I called
around, Brad had recently gotten these & he was the only one that had
any IVM stock on hand (only 2 units at the time, one was mine, the
other has also been sold).
I suspect that I'll get everything straightened out, but not without a
few phone calls.
The only other IVM product that is a MIDI device is a MIDI Thru Box
(not too exciting).
Jens
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1949.5 | disgusted | HAMER::COCCOLI | L<>7 | Wed Apr 05 1989 20:20 | 11 |
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I dealt with Brad from Thorobred once and will never again.
I ordered a Yamahaha merge box from him and after waiting 9 days,
called him back. He said they were out of stock and he was waiting
for a shipment. When I ordered it he said they had plenty of them.
I called Brad's manager and had *him* cancel the shipment. Got one
somewhere else in 2 days.
Rich
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1949.6 | Finally | TYFYS::MOLLER | Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7 | Fri Apr 28 1989 12:23 | 7 |
| I finally got my serial number & a 12 month warrentee card (I've mailed
it in). In general, The unit runs quite well & seems to be able to
handle my needs quite well (loading MMT-8 and ESQ-1 sequencers during
live situations). The people at Indian Valley have been helpful &
were interested in how I was using the gear.
Jens
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