Conference napalm::commusic_v1

    I've had some luck creating patches on a TX81Z that come pretty
    close to electric guitar. I use them on my midi-guitar and they
    are pretty realistic sounding thru a MVII. It sort of sounds like
    Holdsworth's sound when I try to simulate his style with those slow,
    expressive whammy bar bends. 
      I can't remember enough of the patches right now, but if you want
    I can post them in note 338. I think you still have a TX81Z?.
    
    					Rich
    

RE < Note 1882.1 by HAMER::COCCOLI "blinded by science" >

>      I can't remember enough of the patches right now, but if you want
>    I can post them in note 338. I think you still have a TX81Z?.

	Yes, I have the TX81Z and a DX100.  Please post the patches, as I'm sure
they will be of interest.

	Dan
    

    One of these days, some of us should pool are collective equipment
    and come up with the "definitive" guitar sample collection.
    
    Some of the samples I feel are needed
    
    Heavy sounds
    
    1) Sustained note
    
    2) Muted note for fast runs
    
    3) Power chord (assign the whole chord to one key)
    
    4) Muted crunch power chord
    
    5) Harmonic
    
    6) Feedback (to be used in cross fades - would love to be able to
       tie it to key pressure)
    
    7) Tapped note
    
    8) Pull-off note   (Karl could really exploit the tapped and pulled-off
       samples with that Emu feature that understand what the "first" note
       of a phrase is, whatever it is I that that classical guitar
       commusic piece used)
    
    Clean sounds
    
    TBS
    
    	db
    
    

    
    Can I add:
    
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                                          e    |
                                        e      |
                                     e         |
                                 e             |
                              e                |
    9)weeeeeeeeeee e e  e  e                   bong (s**t!).
    
     -- for reproducing the moment Ernie loses his ball.
    
    Richard.

    Gee, Ernie Balls are the first strings I've ever used that have
    never broke on me.
    
    I once talked to Steve Morse about strings.  I was delighted, if
    surprised, to find out that not only wasn't I the only one who
    didn't think there was a significant difference between strings,
    but I was in VERY good company, perhaps the best company.
    
    Anyway, Morse had said that he had never "broken his Ball's"
    either.  Since that talk he's become an official endorser of
    Ball strings.
    
    I'm just curious if you picked Ball's at random or based on your
    experience with them.
    
    Note: I am not an aggressive whammy bar type although I do LOVE
    doing radical bends, major 3rd, occasional fourth - Yes, I do
    consider those to be radical even if there are folks out there
    who go beyond a fourth.

    The worst strings that I've ever used were KAMAN .008 R&R strings,
    they just didn't seem to want to stretch out & would never stay in
    tune. Ernie Ball strings used to break on me all of the time & I don't
    use any whammy bars. They may have fixed the quality control problem
    by now (it used to break right where the twist stopped near the ball
    end on any of the non-wound strings). I always use .008's. The best
    strings seem to be DARCO or GHS. I'm sure that there is little
    difference these days, but had I been sampled stretching a set of Ernie
    Ball strings a dozen years ago (when I used them occasionally), you'd
    undoubtly have had to edit out the obscenity when it broke.

							    Jens

Dan,

I hope it's ok to talk about samplers. The D50 has some great acoustic
guitar sounds with those PCM attacks and all, and sort of a "synthy"
sounding lead guitar on one of the latest ROM cards. By using lots of
pitch bend wiggling, it sounds pretty good in context.

On the S550, there are some pretty fair lead guitar and power chord samples.
I bought the Prosonus Sound Library CD and sampled it onto the EPS. It is
loaded with all kinds of good stuff like...

Triads

major and minor, fast, slow, open and picked, power, downstroke, upstroke, etc.
on Les Paul, Heavy Metal, and Strat

Single notes

sustained, muted, Les Paul, Metal, Strat

Fifths

sustained, muted, LP, Metal, Strat

reggae lops, muted chunks, harmonics multi-stringed, whammy-bar up/down,
pyrotechnics, scrapes, stabs, etc.

Sequences

single notes, muted, E1 thru E2
fifths, muted, E1 thru E2

I didn't use any external f/x on the sounds. I've used the S550 samples on
several top 40's cover tunes. The guitar is so expressive, it's really hard
to get all your favorite sounds onto one sampler. The EPS patch select buttons
make it my choice for live performing. You can call up 4 different layers to
get more variety.

take care,


dave

      I play guitar approx 1.5 hours per day before I go to work and
    break a string (no b.s.) about twice a year. My secret is I use
    very thin picks. I bent strings a lot (about 6 fret range) and use
    a whammy bar. I use D'Addario .008's.
    
       Aren't we changing the subject a little?.