| Title: | * * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * * |
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Well, I've just read almost all info in this file now (started back
in summertime) I have to say that there is A LOT of valuable info
for everyone who is interested in synths, computers, MIDI and the
art of music creation.
For a couple of weeks now, I been thinking and wondering about the
possibility to print the scores for my sequensed stuff. I know there
are some good (and bad) computerised, ready to go programs out but
I would like to use what is available to me now without spending
extra bucks.
My basic thoughts are:
I have an ATARI ST, I have a fairly good sequencer program (Steinberg
PRO 24 version III). I have something called MASTERSCORE although
I have not been able to run it because it needs a monochrome monitor.
I have a modem and I could upload whatever file format needed to my
VAX which has a LN03 Laser printer. I've seen that the LN03 is able
to print fairly good score notation. So everything seems to be there.
But.... not beeing a computer wizard I'm not able to figure out how
this could be done. Could the "standard MIDI files" that the PRO24
is able to put on discette bee used or do I have to convert to some
"score program format" first??
What is availbale on the VAX end. What format is needed by the VAX
software/printerdriver?? Fonts for LN03??
I know that some of you have experience doing things like this and
I appreciate any info that would help me do what I want.
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BTW, talking about "MIDI standard file format", is there any
experience out there swapping such a file between different
sequencers. Say that I have a friend with (manufacturer name)
H/W or S/W sequencer that is able to produce the Standard File
format. Providing it's the same media (3.5" disc) could I put it
in my ATARI drive and have PRO24 read it, understand what's in
there and hopefully (after diddling with midi-channels, voice
assignments and so on) play back my friends piece??
What about swapping pieces over the net??
Please, excuse any language/spelling errors of mine.
Torbjorn
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| 1880.1 | Hope this helps. | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - back in Ohio. | Fri Jan 27 1989 13:27 | 32 |
RE: printing scores on an LN03
The contents of any given sequence file are unintelligible to humans.
Masterscore (or whatever it is) translates the sequence to a file
containing printer directives necessary to print intellible characters
as music notation.
In the case of the LN03, if your scoring program can generate
Postscript or Sixel output files, you will be able to upload those
files from your Atari to a VAX (using Kermit, X/YModem, WHACK, etc. -
see MAY14::ATARIST for more info) and print them on an LN03 using the
command:
$ PRINT/PASSALL/NOFEED filename
There are other output formats as well - I'm not sure what all can be
done with the various types of output.
RE: swapping standard MIDI files
Theoretically, if your friend has an Atari ST sequencer that can write
MIDI files, and if PRO-24 can read MIDI files, you should be able to
load from one to the other.
There will probably be some data loss, as most sequencers implement a
superset of features that can be stored in a MIDI standard file. But
the basic song should be intact.
There will also be trouble if you attempt to read disks written on a
machine other than the ST without the proper software.
-b
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| 1880.2 | more... | NORGE::CHAD | Ich glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tte | Fri Jan 27 1989 15:07 | 18 |
To clarify a few things Brad said. The PostSCript version of the LN03 is the LN03R. A normal LN03 will print the PostScript (TM) language version of the file, not the image itself. Please correct me if I'm wrong someone. Using Atari disks in other machines: If it is first formatted on an IBM or using an IBM formatter on the ST, the disk is also transportable to any IBM/MS-DOS machine with 3.5 inch drives (or 5.25 inch if your Atari has a drive of that type). That means that PC sequencers that read "standard MIDI files" should theoretically be able to use your ST "standard" files. The MIDI file format doesn't address the question of disk formats, so ST disks are not normally usable on other machines. Good luck Chad | |||||
| 1880.3 | So it is possible!! | STKSMA::HALL | Take care of your MIDI | Sun Jan 29 1989 04:37 | 21 |
re: MIDI file swapping
So, it seems to me that the CONTENT of the file is transferable
but maybe not the physical format. So if I upload the file from
my ST to the VAX and someone else donwloaded it to a PC/AMIGA....
the musical content (with possible drops of some info) can be read
into another sequencer that will accept the standard format. Right??
Who wants to give it a try?? I have some single channel, single
voice MIDI files that I can UUENCODE and send somewhere and someone
out there could do a playback with a good piano patch!!!
re: score notation
So the only problem I have is to convert the (graphical) file from
my score program into sixel format (hey, I could even print on LA50)
and send it to LN03. Having produced the sixel file, can the LN03
accept it directly with help of the previous mentioned PRINT command??
Torbjorn
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| 1880.4 | yep | NORGE::CHAD | Ich glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tte | Mon Jan 30 1989 11:04 | 7 |
Electronic Musician issue Feb 89 has a simple ST notation program in Basic for SST sequencer and Epson (I think) printers. If you know about your MIDI files and about Sixel format, you could modify the program to make the sixel files for you. You could then print on the LN03. CHad | |||||