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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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1875.0. "Kawai M8000 Keyboard Controller" by DYO780::SCHAFER (Brad - back in Ohio.) Wed Jan 25 1989 11:05

    Oh no.  Not another "keyboard controller topic".  Well, since one
    didn't exist for this piece of gear ... Does anyone know anything about
    the Kawai M8000 controller?  I've heard some rumblings from a few
    people about it. 

    What I know: 

	88 keys
	xmit on 4 MIDI channels at a time
	100 memory locations

    What I've heard:

	weighs 62 lbs (!)
	price < $1K (unreliable USENET source)

    What I don't know:

	what the touch is like (real/synth keys, weight, mush factor, etc)
	is aftertouch poly or mono
	weight
	price
	dimensions
	who's got 'em in stock

    Anyone ever play one of these?  Comments?

-b
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1875.1I've a flyerNORGE::CHADIch glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tteWed Jan 25 1989 12:254
I have a brochure on it at home.  When I remember, I'll
post some details from it.

CHad
1875.2Yawn (at me).DYO780::SCHAFERBrad - back in Ohio.Wed Jan 25 1989 13:427
    I just found the review (Keyboard, Nov. 87).  Looks like lots of nits
    and not what I was hoping to find.  (Sigh.) 

    Maybe the A-80 from Roland will be the ticket (assuming, of course,
    that I will be able to afford it). 

-b
1875.3I wish I hadda....MUSKIE::ALLENWed Jan 25 1989 17:2433
    	At the risk of fulfilling my reputation as the resident KAWAI
    bigot...
    
    	The M8000 is real nice.  The feel is IMO just like their acoustic
    keyboards and there are full-keys (not the ones with scooped-out
    bottoms like on many synths).  There is aftertouch (mono) and also
    release velocity something which KAWAI is one of the few companies
    that offer this feature. (I think release velocity is a bit under-
    rated.  If you know what you're doing, you can make an extremely
    realistic patch for complicated sounds like harpsichord or flute
    by taking advantage of this feature in addition to attack velocity
    and aftertouch).   As mentioned in .0, the M8000 can broadcast over
    four channels simultaneously.  Combined with multi-timbral (I can't
    believe you said that word, Bill :-)) devices like the K5 or D110,
    that gives you one heck of a lot of flexiblity in program changes,
    stacking voices, and more splits than an early James Brown concert
    (sorry 8-0).  It also means more complexity.
    
    	I suspect that many folks have a hard time understanding these
    beasts; they offer so much but you don't realize that you might
    need what they offer!  After I bought the K5, I realized that I
    might have been better off getting the K5m module and an M8000.
    Although I love the K5, I could have gotten more flexibility and
    the extra 28 keys not to mention a spiffy stand with the M8000.
    And, oh yes, the list price is $1895.00.  I doubt that anyone is
    selling them for this, though.  They have not been a "hot" item.
    I would guess that you could get one for about $1300.00.
    
    Clusters,
    Bill Allen                                                         
    
    ps If you know where they are letting them go for <$1000, SPEAK!!!