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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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1842.0. "Yamaha MCS2 MIDI Control Station" by DSTR05::CREAN () Fri Jan 06 1989 12:58

    Anybody have any experience with the Yamaha MIDI Control Station
    (MCS2)?  It's purpose is to add additional "controllers" (pitch bend,
    modulation, aftertouch, breath, etc.) to controller keyboards that
    don't have those features -- like my Clavinova.  The TX81Z has some
    voices that use the breath controller, and I'd like to take advantage
    of them; also, I'd like to be able to adjust volume, and send program
    change instructions in performance situations.
    
    As an alternative, I'm thinking about a computer interface with some
    home-brew controls (pots and pedals and buttons and stuff) tacked on.
    That leads me to a question about MIDI-merge theory...
    
    When you have two controllers talking at once (in this case, a computer
    and a keyboard), what sort of arbitration algorithms get used?  My MIDI
    terminology is a bit weak, but suppose for example that one controller
    was in "running" mode -- sending data bytes, but no command bytes; and
    then the other controller sends a different command; won't subsequent
    data bytes from the first controller be mis-interpreted as "running"
    mode data from the second controller?
    
    Are there any limitations imposed by the use of a MIDI-merge?  (Any
    stuff you're not allowed to send from either controller, for example?)
    
    I may not even be asking the right questions here, so any insights
    that might clear up my confuddlement would be most welcome!
    
    Thanks,
    
     Kevin C.
    
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1842.1If you find one, LET ME KNOW!NRPUR::DEATONFri Jan 06 1989 15:3733
	Hi Kevin,

	I have owned both a MIDI merge and the MCS2.  First of all, I'll
speculate about the way it works.  I'd guess that there is some kind of a data 
buffer that stores ands spits out messages in proper protocol.  The only 
messages that I'm SURE of that can't be merged like this are clock messages 
(like from a sequencer and a drum box at the same time).  Now there seems 
to be on all mergers some allowance for a possible 'overflow'.  Some mergers 
will 'lock up' and not send any data when this happens.  The MCS2 and the Yamaha
merge box will do this.  Others will cause stuck notes.  Most often, they will
provide some kind of 'panic button' to send 'all notes off'.

	I would have really liked to keep the MCS2 box, but it seems that all it
would do was lock up on me.  Unacceptable.  I had to return it.  The Yamaha 
merge box did the same thing.  I had to bring that back as well.  The problem
was even more confounding when the units went into overflow mode EVEN WHEN THERE
WAS NO DATA GOING INTO THEM!  Or, they would lock up when only one keyboard
was plugged into it (and I'm no wonder-fingers!)  I've begun to wonder if the 
power lines going into my studio were bad (?).

	So, before you write out a check on one of these units, try it out with
your equipment - or get a guaranty that you can return it if the same thing
happens to you.

	Just a word to the wise...

	If all you want is a merge box, the only one that seems to get rave
reviews everywhere is the MX-8.  It'll sink you in the excess of $300, though.
I would personally love to find any other box that will do JUST merge and do it
reliably!

	Dan