Conference napalm::commusic_v1

    You save less than 9% at $1250. Go for the new one with the
    fixit promise...
    
    Edd

    I agree with Edd; for $150 bucks I would go for the new one.  If
    the unthinkable happens you've got some recourse (even with M/O).
    Also, you get a full doc set.
    
    Bill Allen @MPO

Also you get the latest firmware ROMs with the new one.

dave

    A dissenting digression, for what it's worth ...

    I spent the last few days in Nashville at a pretty big gig.  Used a
    TX7/ESQ-M combination.  Played right alongside 2 D-50s.  And everyone
    liked my sound BETTER than the D-50s' sound.

    This is not a brag - I just think you might be better able to spend
    your $1400.

-b

    re .4 - It really all depends on how they've been programmed.  A
    stock D-50 is not terribly interesting, soundwise.
    
    But it *will* generally be the case that two different synths together
    will sound better than two of the same synth together, regardless
    of the specific synths involved.
    
    len.
    

    I guess I didn't make myself clear.

    When the comments were made, I was only using the TX.  The ESQs were on
    a different channel.  Of course, when I added the ESQs, the sound
    became even more ... um, robust. 

    I'm not knocking the D-50 - it's a nice piece of gear.  I'm just trying
    to ensure that all alternatives are considered.  From the "getta cheap
    Atari" note, it appears that this is not the case. 

-b

    Nah, Brad, let's argue!  Anybody who doesn't have the same equipment
    I do is obviously a yoyo brain and should not be allowed to note in
    this conference.  After all, I'm the only one with a legitimate
    opinion, and besides, my opinions aren't opinions, they're the truth.
    Now that I've made myself clear, nothing more need be said, right?
    
    
    len.
    

    Ok, ok ...

    Not only is your D-50 a piece of electron sucking swill, your cat is a
    wimp.  

    Etc, etc, etc.

&*}

    Um, excuse me, but would it be OK with you lads if I jumped in
    here and possibly exhibited some aggressive behaviour?
    
    I'd like that very much.
    
    Very Truly Yours,
    
    Edward A. Cote

    Boy, if you have to ask permission, you don't know how to agress.
    
    Ain't it cute how agrees and agress differ by one little letter?
    
    And leave my cat out of this.
    
    len.
    

>    After all, I'm the only one with a legitimate
>    opinion, and besides, my opinions aren't opinions, they're the truth.
>    Now that I've made myself clear, nothing more need be said, right?
    
    
>    len.

    Don't cut into my gig, len.
    Tom

	So what does that have to do with .0?

		Just kidding, I already see that warranties are quite 
	desirable.  You have my permission to carry on with the 
	regularly scheduled banter.

--mike-who's-playing-the-lottery-a-lot.

Edd -
  ^
  |__ isn't the 2nd "d" reDunDant?

dave

    Well if Roland stuff is so GOD DAMNED reliable, how come it is that
    I gotta take my S-550 back tonite for a replacement?
    
    HUH!!!!
    
    Answer that Roland Brain!!!
    
    How come my $2k+ Roland didn't last as 1/100th long as my cruddy
    $400 Alesis stuff?
    
    	db

    Just kidding of course.
    
    	db

    Must be your, uhm, problematic attitude.
    
    None of mine ever breaks.  You do tell it, over and over again,
    how much you like it, don't you?  And you do have a cat that sleeps
    on it so it feels nice and warm, don't you?
    
    len.
    

    > And you do have a cat that sleeps on it so it feels nice and warm
    > don't you?
    
    Hey, I thought we were gonna leave our cats outta this?!
    
    Actually, if my cat slept on the S-550, I would quite likely find
    fried cat remains on it in the morning.  Fortunately, I have mine
    rack-mounted and thus the cat doesn't have this option.
    
    Most of my Roland rack mount stuff doubles as space heaters in the
    winter.
    
    	db

RE < Note 1619.18 by DREGS::BLICKSTEIN "Yo!" >
    
>    Actually, if my cat slept on the S-550, I would quite likely find
>    fried cat remains on it in the morning.  Fortunately, I have mine
>    rack-mounted and thus the cat doesn't have this option.
 
	I take it then that the rack-mounted cat is not bolted in directly above
the S-550.

	Dan
   

    > Isn't the second D redundant??
    
    Well, I had to do *something* with the extra D, and since it looked
    funny at the beginning (Ded Cote?) I stuck it on the end. We've
    been the best of friends for decades.
    
    Dave B., is that a single or dual space cat?
    
    Edd

    > Is that a single or dual space cat?
    
    I dunno.  Haven't "racked" him yet although I've often been tempted.
    
    And he's not MIDI'd either.  In fact, not having a keyboard nor
    a MIDI interface, I'm not really sure what you're suppose to use
    to "control" this cat.
    
    	db

    Cats aren't MIDI???
    
    Oh my, that explains why aja (my cat) got so upset. It's clear to
    me now what I thought was MIDI IN wasn't....
    
    Edd

    
    
    re .21
    
    >I'm not really sure what you're suppose to use to "control" this
    >cat.
    
    Why, a mouse of course!!
    
    All this talk of cats is getting to my allergies %*O
    
    ralph
    

    > ...a mouse of course!
    
    HAHAHA! I wish I'd said that...
    
    Edd

    I guess.
    
    len.
    

    
    Well, now that the irrelevent conversation is over,
    (he said at 1200 baud, 10 minutes later)
    I'm going to make this cat conversation turn into something
    relevent to this conference. (flame off)
    
    Does anyone out there have an Octave-Plateau CAT/KITTEN/or CAT-SRM
    non-midi synth (circa 1979 approx)?
    Anyone want to sell one? my cat SRM bit the dust and
    I really want to get another. If you have one,
    even if you dont want to sell, lets talk about it.
    It think a cat-srm with a PAIA or JLCooper midi-cv
    is a great fat analog (0% digital) lead synth for a midi rig.
    

RE: .27

    Whaddya mean by "bit the dust"?  How bad off is it?  I know of a
    very good repair shop in Cincy if you're willing to UPS it ...

-b

    
    I've been inside the unit and its a rats nest.
    the manufacturer doesnt have a parts placement spec,
    and translating schematic to an actual part is tough,
    especially since there are replacement parts on the board
    already with non-matched numbers. (RCA# != TI#)
    I dont think anyone would fix it for under for 100
    so, Im just planning to buy a used one which usually
    runs for around 100 anyway.  Thanks for asking though.
    pete
    

       
       
       
       
       Just came in the mail from Roland - a glossy postcard announcing
       that for three months (August through October), they're lowering
       the price on the D50 to $999.  And if you bring the post card
       when you make your purchase they'll give you a free sound card
       (worth $70).  Anybody want to buy a post card?  *%')
       
       
       
       
       

    Yeah, like the price will go "up" in November?  Maybe list will go to
    $1999 and retail will be "significantly lower".
    
    Steve