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| 1570.1 | but, I hear it sounds great in the store ... | MIZZOU::SHERMAN | incompetence knows no bounds | Wed Jul 27 1988 11:51 | 7 |
| Haven't heard a K1 or K1m, yet. But, KEYBOARD ran a review on it.
Basically, it's another D50-wannabe for fewer bucks, but with more
noise (8-bit resolution as I recall). I'm still waiting for the
D110 to drop down to $500 (next year or so). Meanwhile, I have
yet to load the D50 sounds I have on tape into my S-10 ...
Steve
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| 1570.2 | Needs analysis methodologies. | MINDER::KENT | I can't Dance to That | Wed Jul 27 1988 19:42 | 37 |
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Nick.
I think you are overestimating the ability of the commusic community
(in which I include myself) to understand your needs and requirements.
IF you take just about any piece of equipment there will be
those (usually owners) who think it is the best thing since the
proverbial sliced bread and there will be those, who sometimes can't
afford it who will knock it to all hell.
You should decide on your requirements, read the reviews, most
importantly find a reliable supplier and listen to the options and
then seek advice from those who have used the instrument. You should
also take some note on what the proffesionals use. It is no accident
that almost every professsional keyboard set up, both road and studio,
has at least
1 6 op Yamaha synth, (DX7,tx816 etc)
1 D50/550 (I mean 50 not 10,20 or other),
1 of the older anlogue machines
(Super Jupiter or Memory Moog being candidates)
and if they
sample, then eiter an emulator or akai s900.
If you are just starting out, Which it sounds like you are, Then
you could do far than worse than the above.
Be aware of one thing. This is going to cost you money. The week
after you buy your machine, there will be a better one on the market.
Decide what you need and "go for it"
Paul.
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| 1570.3 | Seen many pros with Roland too | FREKE::LEIGH | | Wed Jul 27 1988 21:49 | 6 |
| > and if they
> sample, then eiter an emulator or akai s900.
Or the Roland S-50/550.
Chad
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| 1570.4 | You make sample, velly velly easy | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Yo! | Wed Jul 27 1988 23:18 | 39 |
| > Or the Roland S-50/550.
Oh what a relief. I just picked mine up last night.
db
p.s. BTW, this is for all you Roland freaks:
The manual is without a doubt the WORST I have ever
read.
o Poor english (clearly translated from japanese -
y'know - you take disk, put in drive),
o a typo or two or three on every page,
o undefined terms coming at you a mile a minute,
o confusing wording at the worst times (in the description
of the disk backup procedure it's hard to tell which
disk (the one being read/copied, or the one being
written) they are talking about at any given moment.
I thank god 3.5" disks have a write-protect feature.
I mean, I'm figuring it out. But what a difference between this and
for example:
o The Ensoniq ESQ-1 manual (a legend among manuals)
Even my field test HR-16 looks like a classic work of literature next
to this one.
And BTW, the manuals for my MT-32 and my RD-300 stink too!
Gee, did I get off on a tangent:
(In full "Grover the muppet voice") Saahhh Reee!
db
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| 1570.5 | Look around. | PANGLS::BAILEY | | Wed Jul 27 1988 10:37 | 3 |
| Dir/title="K1" will indicate another note in which the K1 is discussed.
Steph
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| 1570.6 | Reply | DENALI::KELLYNI | | Thu Jul 28 1988 21:25 | 26 |
| Yes, it is true, I am just starting out. I was just asking for
the opinions of the people who use the net. I have had a hard time
finding reviews on the items I am interested in, so I just asked.
Sampeling is a form of art, the development of new instruments to
be played on a piano keyboard is what I really like. So I bought
an EPS, "in my opinion is the best sampler package on the market
today" It's like haveing 8 samplers in one. Once the 4x mem expander
and the SCSI port are developed I really don't think there will
be much able to touch the EPS. I already have a 20meg drive for
the board, all I ned now is the technology on the EPS.
I also have a microverb with a 4 chanel mixer...
But now I need an instrument that I can create synth sounds on.
Something not to expensive, but will do the job good enough for
an amiture like myself.
The Kawai seemed like it would fit the ticket okay, but I want as
much feedback and info on it before I purchase. I knew a lot about
the EPS and bought it in early December. But I can't find much
on the Kawai... Being that a lot of the DEC MIDIots have been at
this for a lot longer then myself, I do value their opinions.
I appreciate any and all feedback, Pro and Con....
Nick
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| 1570.7 | | HPSRAD::NORCROSS | | Fri Jul 29 1988 11:25 | 11 |
| > I appreciate any and all feedback, Pro and Con....
Well, if you're gonna get a second synth, I would make it a module and
not a keyboard (ie, a K1m istead of a K1).
And while I don't know anything factual about the K1's, I sure do love
the string sounds and the "Ahh" sounds that it makes (especially when
compared against the Roland D-110 which produces BLAH string and "Ahh"
sounds).
/Mitch
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| 1570.8 | I'd want the keyboard, not the rackmount. | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | Dancing in the ruins tonight... | Fri Jul 29 1988 16:21 | 9 |
| I'd say the exact opposite; if you don't have a second controller
get one. That second controller may in fact be a non-rackmount
synth, or a controller only (Oberheim Xk?) plus a cheap module (FB01,
MT-32, etc).
I don't have beans in the way of keyboard chops, but I'm realizing
that I really need (well, deeply want) a second full-size manual.
-Bill
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| 1570.9 | Jumpin' boards | DENALI::KELLYNI | | Mon Aug 01 1988 18:28 | 18 |
| I like being totally surounded by keyboards. but...
The rackmount is easy to move and doesn't take up a lot of space.
Also if I should by a full size keyboard, I'll be looking for just
that. All of the popular synths of today are only five octave.
And I would like it to have a piano feel. After reading all the
notes files I have come to the conclusion that a piano feel on a
synth is important. I have been dinking on a Yamaha piano and it
feels natural. Going back to the EPS after that is like jumping
from typing on a VT100 to a 340 terminal keyboard. I think I'll
be looking at the module today and a Kurzweil tomorrow....
p.s. A note on my spelling (it B bad I know) that's why I have
a mac at home with a spell checker....!
I really like the K1m, I think I will buy one... Nick
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| 1570.10 | Killer K1 sounds | RDGENG::JEWELL | | Tue Aug 23 1988 05:27 | 20 |
| Kawai K1 ??
Strange beast ! If you want to hear an incredible selection of
pre-programmed sounds, get a demo in your local music store. Instant
Tangerine Dream sound-tracks (man) ... However, to be honest, thats
all there is to it. Very impressive if you want to write film scores
etc, but in terms of basic sounds (bass, piano etc), I'd go for
one of the Roland L.A. series.
Like the L.A. synths, its another one of the breed of samploid synths.
However, unlike the Rolands, it has no filter section. The sounds
are built up from sampled harmonics and waveforms, which is a bit
limiting.
So, in conlusion, don't just judge the machine on its (v.superb)
demo sounds ... remember that in the long run, either an analogue
or L.A. synth will give you greater flexibility.
Tony
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| 1570.11 | Problems with Kawai K1 | MANTHN::EDD | LOOP (lewp) n. See loop. | Mon Jul 22 1991 13:39 | 48 |
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Note 2685.0 Problems with my Kawai K1 No replies
AYOV10::MDONNELLY "Leaning against the spin" 42 lines 22-JUL-1991 08:27
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I'm wondering if any K1 users/owners have experienced problems with
condensation/dampness on their K1.
It's happened to me twice in the last 6 months. The first was my own
stupid fault. I had been playing a gig on a Friday night in December,
and left my K1 overnight in my (ungaraged) car. It was a very cold
night - around -5 degrees C. The K1 remained in the car all day Sat
and when I took it out of its case in the warm club on Sat night, it
quickly became visibly wet. I dried it as best I could before
switching on, and it played ok for a while. Then suddenly things
started to sound very wrong. One note in every octave (not the same
note!) was way out of tune. It was the same on all sound patches.
The interesting thing was that it played fine when my sequencer was
driving it. Only using the keyboard gave me the problem.
I assumed it was condensation/dampness on the contacts, and the next
day the keyboard was fine. I've been careful since then to avoid
severe changes in temperture, but it happened to me again at the week-end.
We set up in local pub before the doors were opened. The temperture in
the room was as near normal as dammit, and it was fine during the sound
check. This was at 22:00. We departed to a nearby pub, and when we
returned to perform at around mid-night, the place was jumping. The
room was smallish, very crowded and very warm - but not *that* warm.
Anyway, into our second song, and the keyboard does exactly what it did
six months ago. I was able to re-arrange our set to use the sequencer
more, but I couldn't use the keyboard at all.
The next day everything is OK again.
We're booked to play the same place in a months time, and I don't know
what I'm going to do about it. Conditions are likely to be the same.
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Michael
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