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1389.1 | Briefly ... | NIMBUS::DAVIS | | Tue May 17 1988 11:01 | 35 |
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Well, this seems right up my alley, since I'm also mainly a guitar
player who likes synths. I've tried to keep up with what's been
available for the last few years, even though I could never afford
any of it.
The main problem with guitar MIDI controllers is that a guitar doesn't
produce nice discrete notes like a keyboard. Guitar players do all
kinds of nasty "in-between" things like bends, slides, and hammer-ons,
which make it much more difficult to track. Most controllers that I've
seen use some type of pitch-to-voltage converter, some more
successfully than others. Several of these on the market right now,
Roland (I think works like this), "Pitchrider" (is that the right
name?), and "Photon" that actually uses a laser to track the string
vibrations ("tracks at the speed of light", which is all marketing
hooey). All of these are in the $1000+ category, and I believe that
they all track less than 100% reliably (although this is more hearsay
than personal experience). I can't really make any recommendations, but
if I were buying one I'd spend some time making sure I was satisfied
with the way it behaved before spending that kind of money. Casio is
introducing (has introduced?) a new one with a synthesizer built in,
which has gotten some good hype for it's performance and price. Check
out note 1330 for details on this one.
A couple of "toys" put out recently by Casio and Suzuki are more in my
price range ($250-400), but of course you get what you pay for. I was
not at all impressed with the Casio, no velocity sense, rubbery
strings, and a lot of useless (to me) on-board junk. The Suzuki I
actually thought was a reasonable "guitar-like" controller. It didn't
have strings on the fret board, but these rubber ridges, so it
didn't feel or play like a guitar. It did send velocity changes
as you picked the string harder. Not bad for the money, and
an alternative for us guitar players struggling with a keyboard.
Rob
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1389.2 | | CANYON::MOELLER | He points. He grunts. He's hi-tech. | Tue May 17 1988 13:46 | 3 |
| The Stepp MIDI controller, made in Britain, got good grades in an
issue of Music Technology magazine earlier this year.
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1389.3 | | MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVID | Stratocaster master | Tue May 17 1988 13:55 | 14 |
| The roland GK-1/GM-70 ccombination is the best I've heard and I
wouldn't own one...too much money for the performance (about $1K)
and it's still too slow making the pitch to midi conversion...the
casios etc, are nice toys but are still toys. Zeta systems has
announced a guitar to midi system using their guitar and midi
converter. I don't know much about it except that I hear it blows
the Roland away in terms of speed of conversion, of course no one
has one anywhere near here, and probably never will...Zeta got great
marks on their Violin to MIDI system, ie: best in the business,
so I expect the guitar system to be similar in price/performance.
If I recall correctly it's expensive....
db2
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1389.4 | Synthaxe | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | The height of MIDIocrity | Tue May 17 1988 14:38 | 15 |
| Well, there is a very good guitar MIDI controller called the Synthaxe.
It's fast enough to track Allan Holdsworths legato lines, as well as
Steve Morse's picking frenzies, but of course it does NOT pick up
all the nuances that you are capable of doing on a guitar.
It's main thing is that you can play as fast as you want using
conventional techniques.
Drawbacks: It is very expensive and it has a very bizarre shape
that could be hard to get used to. The strings you pick are
not the same as the ones you fret, and the two sets of strings
(fretting and picking) are not even set at the same angle.
db
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1389.5 | YAMMY Controller | IOENG::JWILLIAMS | Zeitgeist Zoology | Tue May 17 1988 18:15 | 17 |
| I read recently that YAMMY just showed their own entry into the
Guitar controller scene. No price info was included, BUT - probably
fairly hefty in the bucks dept. It has two sets of pickups, one
is the usual reluctance pickup which is used for the ADSR, the other
is an ultrasonic transducer that measures the distance to the closest
fret. Since the translation delay is dependent of the measurement
frequency, ultrasonic yields some pretty impressive results. Bending
changes the effective length, so bends are a breeze as well. The
only limitation stated was that it couldn't pick up harmonics, so
Billy Gibbons would probably be disappointed. It also requires a
rackmount, I imagine they'll have to sell a few of these, and go
through a couple generations before they have one with just MIDI
OUT. YAMMY has been in the guitar market for a while, Carlos Santana
used to play one way back when, so I think it's safe to say that
this may be a viable contender.
John.
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1389.6 | Ibanez MD-I | BENTLY::MESSENGER | An Index of Metals | Tue Aug 09 1988 18:50 | 6 |
| Anybody know anything about the Ibanez MD-I MIDI guitar controller?
I played one briefly about a year ago (they were $1600 then). Now
I'm seeing ads for used ones in the $500-700 range... anybody know
any "cautionary tales" about them?
- HBM
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1389.7 | | GIBSON::DICKENS | vacation bound | Tue Aug 09 1988 20:11 | 30 |
| I had one for a couple weeks. It worked very well as long as you
stayed above the 5th fret and below the 5th string. The tracking
delay only became obnoxious (IMO) on the bass notes.
Great sounds were to be had by running the outputs of my ESQ-1 and
my guitar effects back through the ibanez box. Then you could fade
between them with a knob on the guitar. Ever try blending crunch
guitar with horns ?
Also you could get multi-timbral. With my ESQ-1, I could have a
different patch on each string, two of which could be layers. It
sounded nice with a whole 24-osc. horn section across the neck.
When properly adjusted, you could even bend notes with the blended
synth and guitar sounds and have it stay in tune.
While I had it the big multi-pin cable shorted out and had to be
replaced. It was probably due to the fact that if you don't have a
guitar stand and just lean the axe up against a stand or something, the
whole weight of the guitar sits on the connector. New Roland guitars
have a right-angle connector there. It would be a good idea to get
one, since they're compatible.
Also not a bad guitar. Body about has heavy as my gibson, neck
gibson-like, pickups clean and flattish. Doesn't balance on your knee
very well.
In general, yes, it seemed to be a servicable implementation of a
pitch-to-midi system. As long as you don't expect lightning-fast
tracking, it would be a good axe.
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