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    I suspect that this is a re-package of the MT-32 (there are only
    7 I/C's in the MT-32 & a handfull of other components). If this
    is the case, you'll probably like the sound. I like my MT-32 & what
    it can do with the aid of a sequencer. I'd love to see the specs
    on it. The price sounds mighty good to me.
    
    							Jens

I would recommend waiting for the D20 keyboard and D110 rack mount before
you make a decision. These are all different flavors of the D50/D550 with
some additional features and some missing features. I own the D50, but am
currently waiting for the D10, D20, D110, D??? to arrive before adding
another piece. Consider things like...

Do you really need a keyboard or is a rackmount better?

Do you need a built-in sequencer, or are you using an external one?

What are the prices of each piece?

Will it be used for live performing or sequencing? Maybe an MT32 would
work just as well.

Is it compatible with the already large library of D50 patches and RAM/ROM
cards? I believe the D110 is, but not sure about the D10 and D20.

If you don't need drum sounds from it, how about a D50/D550?

Roland is kind of swamping us with variations on a theme. De ja v�
of some Y-word FM products, huh? Or maybe General Motors?

happy shopping!

dave

Just for confirmation, the D10 is indeed a repackaged MT-32, or rather a 
repackaged D-110 (the difference being that you can program a D-110 and
it has individual outputs).

I wish I had waited for this keyboard, as controlling an MT-32 from a 
DX-7 Mk1 is *no* fun (the old DX-7 only transmits on channel 1, so you
can't play the MT-32 drum sounds :^(  ).

If you're ever in Warrington you could actually play with a real live
MT-32 (mine) before deciding (alternatively, Paul Kent has some samples
of it if you have compatible samplers !). 

Contact me on WAR750::KAYD, or KAYD @ OLO, or 7851 2358, or send a carrier
pidgeon, or......


Regards,

Derek.

    re: -.1
    
    You can control the MT-32 using channel 1 if your sequencer (if
    you have one) has a thru mode.  I use Master Tracks Pro and that
    seems to work there when the master controller is transmitting on
    channel 1.
    
    chad
    

Eddie at Wurly's Worcester got a demo unit in the store just yesterday, sounds
great! The price is $1295.  It is a nice unit.  He showed a ROM demo that
sounds fantastic.  You can leave this thing alone on the stage running one of
the 10 or so demos while you grab a cold one at the bar and have people dancing
on the floor!

The chain expects to get more, about 24, in the end of next week.  The number
of units Worc. gets depends on the number of deposits they get.

When you try it out remember that the D-20 is coming out soon.  This will
have the on-board sequencer and disk drive.

He also recieved one S-330 which I believe will run you $1995 if remember
correctly.

Dan_who_spent_over_two_hours_in_Wurly's_yesterday_playing_around_and_buying

Daddy's in Nashua has a D10 also.  It sounded good, and the demo sequences
in ROM sounded quite good.  The sound wasn't quite D50 of course but I didn't
notice any of the MT-32 hiss either.  If it were only 200 bucks cheaper...

Chad 

    
    
    Re: On-board demos
    
    Does this mean we can expect more of these in the future.....I
    notice how the toy boards in stores advertise the "demo tunes" as
    a *feature*.
    
    ????????????????????????
    
    Are these really for brain-dead salesmen who can't figure out how
    to make the instrument work?
    
    

    I reckon that the demo sequences should be taken with a pinch
    of salt. They invariably sound impressive -- otherwise they wouldn't
    be there. And you have no comparison to make (you can't in truth
    compare one demo sequence with another and judge the potential of 
    the machine).  I listened to the SQ80 demo, and it was so immediately
    impressive, I assumed I was being conned.
    
    Richard.




                                                

    > I listened to the SQ80 demo, and it was so immediately impressive, 
    > I assumed I was being conned.
    
    Aha, but your assumption turned out not to be true.  ;-)
    
    I'll always listen to the demo.  The Casio FZ-1 (?) sampler demo
    is really awesome and demonstrates the creativity you're allowed
    with a sampler.
    
    I even like the music to the Ensoniq demos!
    
    Anyway, I think what you have to look out for are machines that may
    have one or two good sounds but are not very general.  It's easy for
    demos to make this kind of machine sound good.
    
    One of these days we should make a special Commusic tape of the factory
    demos.  I don't know why, but I love demos.   I even have the ESQ-1
    demo recorded on an audio tape I play regularly in my car.
    
    	db

    
    I saw a picture of the D10/20/110 programmer in an ad and surprise!!!!
    
    Unlike previous Roland PGs that I've seen, this one does *not* give
    you real time control of all parameters.
    
    It appears to have eight sliders (eight parameters at once?) with
    some menu buttons and a reasonably large backlit LCD readout.
    
    $500 for this and *still* no real time control????

    

    I'm hard pressed to believe that this stripped down programmer goes
    for $500, when the PG-1000, PG-800, and PPG-80 (full programmers
    for the D-50/550, JX-8P/10 and MKS-80) all sold for about $450.
    
    len.
    

    
    Latest price at Union in Worcester is $1050.
    
    Jeff is also blowing out S-10 samplers for $650.

    They just got the first two D-20s in today while I was there over
    lunch.
    
    

    See note 1499 for a discussion of the D-550, which occasionally
    touches on D-10/110/20 issues.
    
    len.