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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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1270.0. "Casio DG20 Digital MIDI Guitar" by USAT03::BRYANT () Wed Mar 23 1988 09:04

Has anyone played with the Casio DG-20 digital guitar. If so, How was it??

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1270.1I didELESYS::JASNIEWSKITurning down to ZeroWed Mar 23 1988 09:348
    
    	If this is the one that has the untuned plastic strings, I did,
    and reviewed it somewhere, possibly in GUITAR??
    
    	Joe Jas
    
    	I'll try an find it, post it here...
    
1270.2From Guitar...FLOWER::JASNIEWSKIWed Mar 23 1988 09:4065
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FLOWER::JASNIEWSKI                                   58 lines   6-NOV-1987 08:05
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    	I've come to know the Casio DG-20 Digital Guitar a wee bit better
    since I've had it in my hands for a day. I've found that, like the
    "test drive" you might make when buying an automobile, you just
    cant determine the true feel of something while "still in the store".
    This is my evaluation of the DG-20 after owning it for a day...
    
    	To call this instrument a guitar is a farce. It is not a guitar
    at all, rather it is a keyboard in the form of a guitar. The "strings"
    stretch across the fretboard, which is a compliant rubber membrane,
    underwhich switches operate to determine the notes. Guitar players
    I've observed can make it work, but the expressive qualitys of a
    guitar are lost. WJB wouldnt like it either...
    
    	For some reason, which I attribute to having to deal with the
    MIDI implementation thereof, there is *no* facility for any type
    of pitch modulation. This is unacceptable to me; forget bending
    strings or even making string bends by any other means. A likewise
    situation for the dynamics; they are *static* with respect to the
    strumming intensity. Once triggered, you get the sound you get.
    
    	The voicings for guitar could be much better, they're lousy
    at best. The Suzuki instrument makes a better acoustic sound. This
    one has a "distortion" setting, which sounds like an organ with
    some signal clipping; they could have done much better. Many of
    the other sounds have a fixed "LFO" type of modulation - that you
    cannot turn off. Forget about any control over Attack and Decay,
    they're not provided. Sustain at least is determined by the notes
    held on the fretboard, just like an organ. (BTW, the Suzuki instrument
    has dynamic strumming response and a pitch bending facility)
    This instrument has no voicing of anytype for bass Guitar.
                                   
    
    	The rythm box tempo is controlled by a digital switch, which
    means you get this tempo or that, nothing in between it's quanta.
    The box is neat, with a bar for lead in / fill and bars for the
    drums and cymbal (no Bass drum) which stop the rythm whilst you
    bang on these; rythm count resumes when you're through.
    
    	The MIDI output is provided in two modes, MONO and POLY, the
    rythm box is also outputted on it's own channel. Mono mode allows
    seperate channels for each string, so you could feasably have a
    seperate synth responding to each string. This instrument provides
    no velocity or pitch bend information to MIDI.
    
    	Well, you can make it work, get neat noises out of it and have
    a rythm box with fairly good sounds for snare, hihat, low and mid
    toms. Unless you are prepared to consider this an instrument in
    itself - not a guitar - I'd pass it by. When I play, it tricks me
    into thinking it's a guitar and this leads to a big disappointment
    when I'm tempted to "try" a hammer-on or note bend. FOR WHAT THEY'RE
    WORTH, THE STRINGS MIGHT AS WELL STOP BEFORE THE FRETBOARD. I've
    already though of modifying it thusly. As my next impulse is to
    get rid of it as fast as I bought it, I may not show up with this
    instrument this Sunday...Sorry!
    
    	Joe Jas
    
1270.3It ain't _that_ bad...CTHULU::YERAZUNISHiding from the Turing PoliceWed Mar 23 1988 09:5311
    I thought you *could* pitch-bend the DG by pushing sideways on the
    strings...  Maybe you have a defective unit?  I don't own one but
    I played with one for quite a while at Lechmere's.
    
    And at least it responds to glissando on the strings/fretboard;
    the Suzucki does not.
    
    The four "drum pads" are neat (not necessarily useful).
                                                      
    	-Bill
    
1270.4It ain't that good either...BARTLS::MOLLERVegetation: A way of lifeWed Mar 23 1988 11:357
    I tried one, and when you use the drums, the tracking slows down
    by around 50%. Its a nice toy, but after a few minutes, I got irritated
    at it. I tred the Suzuki (the MIDI controller, not the one with
    the built in sounds) and it was not as irritating to play. I bought
    neither.
                                          
    							Jens
1270.5Yecchh!!HAMER::COCCOLIMon Nov 21 1988 22:532
    IT'S CRAP!!