Conference napalm::commusic_v1

   I put a reply in another topic about the new DX (and I think it's
    called a DX-II("two", not DX-11("eleven") ).  There was some mention
    of it in one of the music rags.  As I recall, it is essentially a
    TX81Z with a keyboard, presumable velocity-sensitive.
    
    Sounds like a good idea to me, especially if the price is right.
    
Rodney M.
    

    There is some info on this beast in the current (FEB) issue of MUSIC
    TECHNOLOGY magazine.  The info is contained in an article about
    the Tokyo Music Fair.  Here's what it says:
    
    "YAMAHA V2: The Yamaha V2 debuted here as a new 4-operator/8-algorithm
    FM synth. In the US it will be called the DXII.  It is eight-note
    polyphonic, and its 61-key keyboard has aftertouch and velocity
    control.  Like the TX81Z, with which it is compatible, waveforms
    beside a sine wave can be used as waves for operators.  As a result,
    even though it's a 4-operator model, a variety of sounds can be
    created.  Frequency Fine, Fixmode, EG Reverb, Transposed Delay,
    Pan, and Chord Set are all parameters available for sound-making
    functions.  It also has micro tuning, which has become popular with
    the DX7II instruments.  One of the unique functions of the V2 is
    called Quick Edit. This allows you to change nuances of a sound's
    attack, release, brilliance, and volume with one touch.  It is a
    convenience not only for beginners, but for all programmers because
    it can be used to change details of the preset sounds as well.
    
    One hundred a twenty-eight new preset sounds were created just for
    the V2.  The data for them is also compatible with the TX81Z. A
    RAM4 cartridge can also be used for storing more programs. As for
    performance functions, ther are detune parameters, note shift between
    each sound and Alternate, with which you can produce different sounds
    for each successive key on.  You can split the keyboard in eight
    sections, create partial layers, or play eight sounds together in
    unison.  Because each of the eight sounds can receive on different
    MIDI channels, it can be used effectively as a sound source for
    a sequencer."

    No price was mentioned, nor was an availability date.
    
    Rodney M.  
  

    > No price was mentioned.
    
    Ah!  You didn't look closely at the picture.  There was a price
    (in Yen, along with a heap of Kanji giberish) on the sign above
    the instrument.
    
    I don't remember the exact number, but I estimated the dollar
    equivalent to be about $1000.
    
    It's physically the same size as the DX2[17].
    
    Steph
    

    Any mention of being able to get any of those new TZ patches?  Hope
    they're better than the presets.  Maybe now the TZ will begin to
    blossom and emerge as a standard...
    
    Steve_who_is_*still*_content_with_his_setup

    The number is 118,000 (I assume that's yen)
    
    What's that in bucks?
    
    Rodney M.
    

    At 12:43 P.M. it was $12.95...
    
    At 1:07 you'd need a second mortgage....
    
    With the way the dollar has been bouncing around, it's almost futile
    to try and guess the price... much less convert yen to pennies...
    
    I'd guess the unit would retail in the $600 to $800 range. The DX21
    listed for $795 when announced....
    
    Edd   
    

If the DXII is in fact in the $600-$800 range, And has at least 12 bits
of resolution (ala the TZ) and comes with some killer patches (ala 
WX7 demo record), I'd better start saving my pennies.  How am I gonna
talk myself out of buying this one?

Todd.

    hear it first.
    
    TZ presets are worse than the FB01 in most cases,
    TO MY EAR  {eh?}

    no, I dont mean DAC resolution. Im talking seriously
    considering a program to transform fb01 voices to 
    tz voices JUST to get at the fb sounds that I *do* like.
    
    worth it?
    

I thought you could dump FB patches straight into the TZ using sys-ex.  Just
not vice versa.  No?

Shoot.  There was already a discussion on this.  now I can't remember...

Todd.

    Maybe you're thinking DX21/27/100 --> TX81Z? That one works in either
    direction...
    
    Edd

    
    I think that the only thing the Fb01 is compatible with, from a
    voice architecture point of view is the CX5. I know this works cos
    I tried it !
                                        Paul.
    					

    
    According to the literature that I received from Yamaha just last
    night,  this is exactly the same thing as TX81Z,  discounting the
    keyboard of course (5 octave, velocity sensitive with aftertouch).
    
    The official Yamaha SRP is $995.  This is not to say you won't be
    able to buy it for less.  That is just the official SRP.
    
    Oh yes,  it has stereo output.
    
    Zach

    Another nugget from USENET (edited to the important stuff)
    
     
>Well, I just had a look at the DX11...
 
>Damn, if it doesn't have better preset sounds than my/the TX81Z.
>(For those interested, the DX11 is a TX81Z with a keyboard...)
>I am pissed. Do you all suppose they offer a rom/preset upgrade
>for the lame TX81Z presets?? The only reason I have any decent
>sounds at all for it is that before I got rid of my DX100, I
>dumped the best sounds to tape, and loaded them onto the TX81Z.
>That and the sparse usable presets makes it a decent box with
>more potential than it shows.  (grrr...)

    
    Apparently, at least on the west coast DX-IIs are in the stores....
    
    

    The local store near me has the DX11's in (yup, that's eleven, not two!)
    I got a chance to play with one this afternoon and found that the
    preset patches in some cases resemble those in the TX81Z but in many
    other cases...simply are much, much better.  The layering (the sales
    rep called it "stacking"(?)) of 4 patches to make one performance patch
    creates a richness/depth that is excellent.
    
    The price: $750
    
    The specifics:
    
    Keyboard:	61 keys (c1-c6), initial touch, after touch
    
    Sound source:  4 operator, 8 algorithm, 8 wave FM tone generation;
    		   8 voice polyphonic output
    
    Internal memory:  128 ROM voice memory
    		       32 RAM voice memory
    		       32 RAM Performance memory
    
    Controls:  Pitch blend wheel, modulation wheel, master volume slider,
    	       data entry slider
    
    Control switches:  Mode selecet (store, utility, edit/compare, single,
    		       performance, memory protect), data entry, cursor,
    		       preset select, voice select
    
    Terminals:  Rear- output I/mix, output II, phones, volume, foot
    		      control, footswitch, cassette, MIDI (in/out/thru)
    	        Front- breath control
    		Panel- data cartridge
    
    Display:  16 character x 2 row backlit LCD
    
    Power consumption:  10 w
    
    Weight:  7.0 Kg (15lb 7oz)
    
    Dimensions:  901x633x297.7mm (35�"x2�"x11-3/4")

    Hey, shouldn't there be a way for us TZ owners to get the DX11 patches?
    I wouldn't mind buying data sheets if it's worth it, but it doesn't
    look like Yamaha is offering.  So, how do I get them 'honestly'?
    Does the fact that they are only available in the DX11 ROM make
    it 'okay' to snarf a copy?  
    
    Steve_interested

RE < Note 1182.15 by MIZZOU::SHERMAN "Baron of Graymatter" >

	Regarding Yamaha patches...  I just got a newsletter from a small 
company in Connecticut that writes patches for the TZ (excellent patches, BTW).
They mentioned that Yamaha is going to be publishing a couple of volumes of free
patches in the near future.  Perchance might these be the DX11 patches?  I'll 
keep you informed as I hear more.


	Dan