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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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1174.0. "Discussion - Products at January 1988 NAMM Show" by FGVAXZ::LAING (Pipe Dreamer * Jim Laing * 261-2194) Tue Jan 26 1988 11:58

    What's new?!  I've heard that the January '88 NAMM show is now over,
    I'm wondering what people have been hearing - rumour or otherwise.
    I'm about to spend a few bux, but at this time I sometimes wonder
    if I should wait a little while to see 'what new is coming down
    the pike'
    
    Use this NOTE to enter your rumors/truths about products announced
    at the Jan '88 NAMM show ...
    
    -Jim
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1174.1But Can You Tell Which?DRUMS::FEHSKENSTue Jan 26 1988 14:0218
    I hear there's gonna be the following from Roland:
    
    	MC500 Mark II, with "turbo" MRC500 software
    	an "MC200", low end sequencer, but more than a PR-100
        a bunch of baby D-50s, like D-10, D-20, etc.
    	a bunch of processing units, presumably MIDI controlled; the
    	  one I remember specifically is a programmable parametric EQ.
    
    And, from a new company, LERDS Enterprises, the new MIDI "Keyboard
    Capo".
    
    And of course, from JLCooper, the MIDI/MIDI (also known as DIN/DIN)
    adaptor for all of you who can't stand the fact that some MIDI sockets
    are mounted "concave upward" and others are mounted "concave downward".
    
    len (some of the above is whimsical).
    
    
1174.2MIDI compatible Ben GayDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveTue Jan 26 1988 14:1319
>     And of course, from JLCooper, the MIDI/MIDI (also known as DIN/DIN)
>    adaptor for all of you who can't stand the fact that some MIDI sockets
>    are mounted "concave upward" and others are mounted "concave
>    downward"
    
    While I expect this is one of the "whimsical" items, all I can say
    is that I'd buy it.
    
    There also oughta be a law that all equipment should have the function
    of back panel plugs printed BOTH on the back panel, and on the top
    panel just above the plug (like the ESQ-1).  I'm so tired of craning
    my neck to find out where the plug is that I've vowed to so label
    all my stuff myself.
    
    The law should also have a section saying that the top panel labels
    for MIDI ports should indicate which orientation the sockets are
    mounted in (possibly a little diagram).

    	db (none of the above is whimsical)
1174.3DISSRV::CROWLEYere lies David St. 'ubbins, and why not!Tue Jan 26 1988 14:3614
    
    
    re .2
    
    And it'd be nice if they'd tell you how far down the back of the
    keyboard the socket lies.   I'm forever getting confused between
    one keyboard which has them near the top and the other which has
    them about four inches lower.  Makes patching blindly very difficult.
    
    I'd definately like to get my hands on the DIN/DIN adapter too....
    
    Ralph
    
    
1174.4Somebody, PLEASE, Stop Me...DRUMS::FEHSKENSTue Jan 26 1988 14:4418
    Isn't anybody interested in the "keyboard capo"?
    
    Regarding the DIN/DIN adaptor, are you guys really that unwilling
    to turn your cables through 180 degrees?  All my female DIN connectors
    have grooves worn in them where I've spun the male connector around
    until it seats.
    
    Actually, we had an even better idea - a DIN/DIN adaptor cable,
    that has a concave up plug at one end and a concave down plug at
    the other end...
    
    Of course, you could fix one up real quick by putting a DIN/DIN
    adaptor on one end of your cable...
    
    I'm gonna be rich...
    
    len.
    
1174.5Did I spell the P-word right, Uncle Len???JAWS::COTENo_Smoking:== Free HR-16!!! (21 days!)Tue Jan 26 1988 15:368
    Is the keyboard capo available yet for Yamaha/Ensoniq installations
    where the stepper motor axis must be mounted parralel (sp?) to the
    keys or is it still only for Roland OEMs which require a 90 degree
    shift to perpendicular?
    
    Has J.L. Cooper made a Y->R or R->Y adapter linkage yet?
    
    Edd
1174.6Don't buy adaptor, change the mountNAC::PICKETTDavid - DECSIM. Just say NO!Tue Jan 26 1988 16:0010
    re .5
    
    Edd,
    
    If you mount the keyboard capo on the side of the Roland (whereas
    you would mount it on the front of an ESQ-1) It should work. I'll
    check my instructions, and get back to you on it...
    
    dp
    
1174.7Like Merlin Says, I Meant To Do ThatDRUMS::FEHSKENSTue Jan 26 1988 16:0012
    It's "parallel", Eed.
    
    First we have to make the manual keyboard capo.  Then we can hook'em
    with the MIDI version.  And obviously, we need two different versions,
    for benders that go this way and for benders that go that way.
    
    The adaptor linkage is called a "bellcrank".  That's not the hard
    part - the hard part is the mounting system.  We should probably
    do some deal with USS...
    
    len.               
    
1174.8Use a mirror to see back panels...FGVAXZ::LAINGPipe Dreamer * Jim Laing * 261-2194Tue Jan 26 1988 16:2113
    Re .2
    
    Believe it or not, I carry a small mirror around (fits in my hand),
    to read lables printed on the back of equipment.  Sure, you must
    learn to read inverse images, but you can usually make out what
    the printed label says.  Really, I do this!  I've used the mirror
    to get serial #'s of DEC equipment each time the secretary needs
    an update on who has what.  Also useful when patching things into
    the back of your home stereo.
    
    Now, what about more rumors about NAMM production introductions!
    
    -Jim
1174.9Bellcrank:== Bitchy guy carrying my luggage???JAWS::COTEHelp!! Personal_name Brain Cramp!!Tue Jan 26 1988 16:2410
    No wait!!! 
    
    Let it function in 2 dimensions. Then send it the proper sysex
    message to determine manufacturer. From then on it's a relatively
    simple matter to determine which plane the servos should operate
    in.
    
    Kinda like a joystick...
    
    Edd
1174.10TOU IDIM NI IDIM OIDUA JAWS::COTEHelp!! Personal_name Brain Cramp!!Tue Jan 26 1988 16:299
    re: .8
    
    How much would you be willing to pay for a decal of the back of
    your synth with all the port labels already printed in mirror
    image?? Then when you used your mirror, they'd be correct!!!!
    
    Move over, J.L. Cooper...
    
    Edd
1174.11huh?FROST::HARRIMANwith real glycerine vibraphoneTue Jan 26 1988 17:294
    
    Could someone enlighten me and explain a keyboard capo??? Even if
    this ain't for real, I'm having a hard time envisioning what one
    would look like. 
1174.12I thought the din/din was more obscure.BOLT::BAILEYSteph BaileyTue Jan 26 1988 18:056
    Re: .11
    
    I think they are imagining a device which hold the pitch-bend wheel
    at a certain setting.
    
    Steph
1174.14From USENET...TALLIS::HERDEGMark Herdeg, LTN1-2/B17 226-6520Wed Jan 27 1988 19:3132
Posted by: decwrl!decvax!ucbvax!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihlpa!rwn
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois
Xref: decwrl rec.music.synth:2561 rec.music.makers:1415
 
 
These are rumors of some of the new products shown at the
Namm show this past weekend in California.
 
TASCAM introduced an 8-track multitracking deck that uses
STANDARD CASSETTES!
 
Roland introduced a pro version of the MT-32 which includes multiple
outputs.
 
Roland is working on the next generation of D-50 type synths.
 
Casio dropped the price of their 16-bit sampler and introduced a
rack-mount version.
 
Casio discontinued their CZ-series of synths.
 
Oberheim showed a one-rack space Matrix six called the
Matrix1000.
 
Kawai showed a new synth that uses sampled waveforms like the
d-50 or esq-1.
 
Again, these are rumors.  Did anyone attend the show or hear
anything else?
 
			Bob Neumann
			
1174.15Return Of A Classic...JAWS::COTEHelp!! Personal_name Brain Cramp!!Thu Jan 28 1988 08:1810
    The people from Mellotron have decided to reenter the market using
    an updated version of their original machine. The Mellotron-D will
    operate on the same principle as the original, but will achieve
    much higher fidelity by the use of DAT loops. 
    
    Unfortunately, if the recording industry has it's way, the notch
    will be present and you'll be unable to record the Mellotron-D on
    anything; you'll only be able to hear it live.
    
    Edd
1174.16je n'ce quois...DSSDEV::HALLGRIMSSONSartorial SatoriThu Jan 28 1988 10:068
    .-1: (Mellotron)  Not to mention "Classic Light", since the mechanism
    will weigh much less.  This instrument will actually be more expensive
    than the original due to the technological limitations of the DAT
    drives. They'll have to use sophisticated DSP hardware to get anything
    like the "flow and wutter" of the analog version.
    
    	Eirikur
    
1174.17Wot?HPSTEK::RHODESThu Jan 28 1988 10:067
Sounds like tape delay is in for a freq response boost too...

Will yamaha release a series of samples for its new sampler that has a sample
for each of the possible combinations of FM parameters on the DX series?
Then they can discontinue it.

Todd.
1174.18No More CZs? Heresy!DRUMS::FEHSKENSThu Jan 28 1988 10:1312
    re .14 - The Matrix 1000 is not a rumor, it's already being advertised.
    
    I wish Allesis would bring out a 1 rack space version of the HR-16
    that left out the sequencer and the pads.  All I really want is
    the sounds.
    
    Watch the mags next month or so, they should all be running articles
    on the show.  Also, if you have cultivated a relationship with your
    dealer, you can probably find out a lot that way.
    
    len.
    
1174.25Color-Coordinated Rackmounts????AQUA::ROSTVentiloquist love, it aint such a groove...Wed Feb 03 1988 15:1817
    
    Not exactly a NAMM story (well, maybe)....
    
    According to Cliff at Union in Worcester, the Alesis Microverb is
    on the way out.  They are selling their last few at $169, the new
    Micoverb II with more presets will be out in April at $199.
    
    MidiVerb II is staying put, no MVIII that he's heard of.
    
    ART is replacing the ProVerb with a 16-bit machine with 200 presets,
    which can be reprogrammed, for $449 list.
                   
    Now, for those of you who have pink guitars and snakeskin amplifiers, how
    about guitar stands in designer "hot" colors??????  Can keyboard
    stands be far away???