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| 1165.1 | Whooshflangechoctavequalzeshift | SRFSUP::MORRIS | Maim Tipper Gore | Thu Jan 21 1988 19:19 | 13 |
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I agree wholeheartedly. I want reverb and delay on my snare, chorus
on my rhodes, distortion on my guitar, flange on my bass, and phase
shifting on my vocals (I play life in the fast lane a *lot*).
I have just resigned my self to the fact that I'm going to get
dedicated boxes to do dedicated things. You probably noticed that
Alesis shows (in some ads) 3 microverbs in 1 rack unit. Initially,
I thought why?? but now I see it. Unless somebody comes up with
a way to have recursive patches in digital effects, I'm going to
buy a machine for *1* specific purpose.
Ashley
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| 1165.2 | Yes, these are for guitarists, methinks. | DSSDEV::HALLGRIMSSON | Sartorial Satori | Fri Jan 22 1988 02:43 | 10 |
| I can really relate to this topic. I hate those blasted boxes that
don't let you at the internal functionality except in some combination
set that uses one input and one output. What happened to my patch
cords??? :-(
I'm thinking of getting a KM08 from the Y-word people because of
the multiple effect sends. An RCE-10, and my Microverb, and maybe
a DDL, all controllable at the mixer would be a better solution
for me than one of those kitchen-sink-if-you-like-our-style boxes.
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| 1165.3 | | MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVID | Feats don't fail me now | Fri Jan 22 1988 09:29 | 17 |
| I think that most of these are designed with the guitarist in mind...
ie: one instrument, one signal path
As a guitarist I think they're great! Now instead a 16 stomp boxes
and 32 cords that can all go bad I can have a couple of rack devices
and very few cords to do the same job better.
I own a Midiverb II and love it. multi-effects but only one at a
time...I intend to buy an ADA MP-1 midi programmable guitar preamp,
128 'patches" of clean or distorted sounds with stereo chorus. As
far as a DEP-5 etc goes roland can keep them....
If I was a keyboard player they probably wouldn't have a great deal
of attractiveness to me.
dbII
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| 1165.4 | Failure rates vs failure impacts, AGAIN ! | MENTOR::REG | It was 20 years ago next May | Fri Jan 22 1988 10:18 | 16 |
| re .3 "..16 stomp boxes and 32 cords that can all go bad..."
^^^ don't you
mean, "any of which could go bad" ?
"...a couple of rack devices and very few cords to do the same
job better."
^^^ ^^^^^^^ the same job of going bad ?
I'm not just being pickey here, I agree that lotsa stuff is
more likely to fail more often. However, its probably a lot easier
to continue by cutting out a dead stomp box than it is to replace
the million_'n_nine_EFex rack mount gizzie when it blow its brains
out, no ?
Reg
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| 1165.5 | Buy equip. with simulated reverb | CIMNET::DEBARROS | | Fri Jan 22 1988 19:09 | 15 |
| I hear what your saying Dan, Its an inconvience to have just one type of
effect cooking on 1 or many instruments, with the midiverbII you have
to be creative! Pick whichever sound you think is going to make a
specific voice in your sequence bring out the depth in your tune... and
change patches accordingly. Yes, its a pain having to program the unit
to change when you can have 3 seperate patches/outputs and figuring out
which button changes which patch. The implementation between my @juno
and the midiverb blew me away for along time. I never figured out which
button controlled which bank on my midiverb, and after all the time spent
on it, i have to figure it out from the SQ-80 to the midiverb. Like I
dont have better things to do!!
hows the mks-30???
Eric
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| 1165.6 | At least I don't remember buying it... | AKOV68::EATOND | | Mon Jan 25 1988 08:35 | 9 |
| RE < Note 1165.5 by CIMNET::DEBARROS >
> hows the mks-30???
Uh, ahem, if you're asking me about the MKS-30, I'm, ah, not the one
that bought it (though I woulda liked to...).
Dan
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| 1165.7 | Look at it from a differant angle | PLDVAX::JACQUES | | Thu Feb 04 1988 09:10 | 28 |
| Look at it from a differant angle for a minute. 6-7 Years ago, digital
Reverb was just coming out. The only units available were in the
5000 price range, for a single channel reverb unit. The price barrier
was broken a few times down to about the $1000 range, and then along
came Alesis, with 99 digital effects (including 29 straight reverb effects)
for 399 list. The micro verb offers 16 excellant reverb sounds for
around 200. For around $1000 dollars you could buy 1 midiverbII,
and 3 microverbs. The whole shootin match fits in 2 rack spaces.
You decide whether you want to have 4 voices using each one effect,
or 2 instruments with each 2 effects, or whatever... The only
disadvantge for keyboard players, is the lack of midi control on
the microverbs. Worse case, if you absolutely had to have midi,
on all units, you could buy 4 midiverbIIs for around $1200.
Alesis also offers microlimiter, and micro enhancers, in the same
package as the microverb, so you can squeeze 3 of these micro series
effects into on rack space. I'm hoping they will come out with a
micro delay unit, with 16 delay effects in this package. I could
use a single space unit with separate reverb,delay, and limiter.
One other thing to keep in mind is that Alesis' claim to fame is
"Studio Electronics". In recording studios, in many cases, instruments
are recorded dry (with no effects), then effects are added when
mixed down. This allows you to experiment with effects on each
voice until you find the sound you like.
Just my opinion. to each their own.
Mark Jacques
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