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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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Number of topics:2852
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1114.0. "COMMUSIC IV" by ECADSR::SHERMAN (I have an M.S. - in SCIENCE!) Wed Dec 30 1987 17:15

    Hey, I didn't see any entries in the directory under COMMUSIC IV,
    so I've added this note.  If there are any objections, this note
    can be deleted.  I figure that otherwise this might be the place
    to get status on the tape and such (you out there, db?).  
    
    Anyway, my submission is in the mail.  I used the procedure that
    Dave outlined in note 765.12.  My understanding is that the push 
    is on to submit.  I look forward to hearing what's coming.
    
    For what it's worth.  My old tape deck gave up the ghost last night,
    so I had to get a new deck.  It's got pretty good specs for a cheapie
    (Radio Shack SCT-46 Dual-dubbing, With Dolby B: 66 dB S/N, 
    Without Dolby: 58 dB S/N, Metal:30-16kHz, High-bias:30-15kHz, 
    Normal:30-14kHz, 1% distortion, 0.1% wow and flutter).  Anyway,
    I'll be happy to provide dupes of COMMUSIC III and IV (when I get
    it) from the tapes I get.  Folks just need to get their tapes to
    me and provide a way for me to get the tapes back to them.  You
    can quote me on this:
    
    Home:	Steve Sherman
    		37 Royal Crest #1
    		Marlboro, MA	01752
    
    Work:	MLO5-2/T40	(pole 42a, close to Lower Thompson parking)
    

    Steve_who_is_now_GUILTLESS_and_eagerly_awaiting_COMMUSIC_IV
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1114.1A sad day for Madame Butterfly fansDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveMon Jan 04 1988 14:0113
    Status:
    
    Tapes are arriving rapidly.  Space is rapidly filling up.  I would
    say that there's about 20 minutes left.
    
    I could have filled up the remainder with my stuff but after installing
    the memory upgrade for the ESQ-1 I find that my tape sync feature
    isn't working and I haven't yet mastered anything yet and thus can't
    until the ESQ-1 is fixed.
    
    Sigh...
    
    	db
1114.2SALSA::MOELLERWaiting for GooDATThu Jan 28 1988 16:149
    Say, Dave..
    
    How is the mastering project going ? I'm looking forward to tape
    IV, as they've been getting better and better. With this time-to-
    market, I've already got my Tape V and VI contibutions done..
    
    Geez. Mayhap I should just finish my own tape and shut up.
    
    karl    
1114.3Just say "no" if you objectDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveThu Jan 28 1988 17:3533
    I reluctantly admit that I have enough material now.  Note that
    anything anyone sends me is NOT going to get on IV.  Maybe V if
    I'm stupid enough to do this a third time.
    
    However, I've been real busy with various things and I haven't got
    round to doing the master yet.  This time, I'm going to use a cassette
    master (I'll spring for a higher grade tape to use for the master).
    
    I may use a hi-speed duping deck to make the copies.
    
    One question,... I almost hate to ask this.... It's just a proposal
    you understand...
    
    If I were agree to do several more Commusic tapes, would people
    be amenable to paying an extra dollar or so to contribute towards
    an inexpensive duping deck?  The ones I've looked at are in the
    $100 range.
    
    I would of course stop charging the extra $1 when I was able to
    recover, say about 75% of the cost of the deck.  I'm not really
    looking for a "free deck", but I think my time is worth something,
    and I also sprung $12 bucks for the highest quality videotape I
    could find for the Commusic III master.
    
    I could easily understand objection to this plan so be honest.

    	db
    
    A high speed dubbing deck would also speed up the process.  It would
    allow me to make the master as I receive the tapes.  I normally
    don't have two decks so I have to get a second deck to make the
    master normally (I have borrowed one from my girlfriend to make
    Commusic IV).
1114.4the big man speaksSALSA::MOELLERWaiting for GooDATThu Jan 28 1988 17:4515
    < Note 1114.3 by DREGS::BLICKSTEIN "Dave" >
>    If I were agree to do several more Commusic tapes, would people
>    be amenable to paying an extra dollar or so to contribute towards
>    an inexpensive duping deck?  The ones I've looked at are in the
>    $100 range.

    Hell yes, I'd be glad to help out ! If I were around, I'd collar
    a bunch of noters and extort cassette dex from them for a weekend..
    this is how I duped my first, uh, 'commercial' cassette album.
        
>I think my time is worth something

    I think it is too. And thanks for doing it.
    
karl
1114.5My machine's in Marlboro ... work at the millECADSR::SHERMANNo, Rodney. That&#039;s *old* science! ...Fri Jan 29 1988 02:586
    Hey, Dave, my offer still stands.  If I can get a real nice quality
    cassette master, I'll be happy to dupe it for folks.  I'm at the
    mill, so my location is pretty central.  High-speed duping doesn't
    sound very good ...
    
    Steve
1114.6RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVIDFeats don&#039;t fail me nowFri Jan 29 1988 07:234
    Dave, You have my $ anytime you need it. Your time is valuable,
    thanks for letting us take advantage :-)
    
    dbII
1114.7What am I saying?AKOV68::EATONDFri Jan 29 1988 08:3120
Does anybody know of the fidelity of the hi-speed decks being considered here?
Would there be a drastic drop-off in sound quality?  It would seem to me that
no $100 deck would really do the tape justice sound-wise AND be fast.

	Just my opinion...

I agree with all those who have spoken thus far, though.  Dave, you're deservant
of *something* to make the work you've been doing a little less of a hassle.  
I'm still curious if the professional copier route (as in a company that copies 
your tapes for you) wouldn't be best...  I realize the hassles would be 
'up-front' money, having enough interested parties...  But there's a place in 
the Berkley area in Boston called the Tape Complex that seems to charge a 
reasonable price for copies...  I go there often enough (bargain-hunting, doncha
know...) that I may be able to work something out.

	I'd be willing to stick my neck out and co-ordinate the money-gathering,
bringing the master in and going in to get the copies.  What think ye all?

	Dan

1114.8OptionsDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveFri Jan 29 1988 09:3351
>	I'd be willing to stick my neck out and co-ordinate the money
>	gathering, etc...
    
    Dan,
    
    I really appreciate this.
    
    We gather up as many advance orders as possible than have a pro
    do the bulk of the work.  I can easily handle the occasional requests
    you get several months after the "release".
    
    The only drawbacks I can think of is that it may add significant
    cost and increase the "formality" and hassle of this thing.  Despite 
    my suggestion of charging a buck, I'd really like to keep this thing
    fairly informal and be able to provide the tapes so cheaply (close
    to materials and postage cost) as to make it ridiculous NOT to get
    a copy and "check it out".
    
    
    Steve Sherman,
    
    Also thanks.  Are you prepared to make 50 copies (that's about how
    many copies of Commusic III I've made)?  I don't want to discourage
    you, but I feel a certain obligation to let you know about how
    much work is involved.
    
    So the alternatives are:
    
    	o Professional duplicator

    	o Steve Sherman

    	o Hi-speed duping deck for db
    
    	o Distrubtion/Duplication Network
    
    	  Perhaps I can send copies to several individuals (probably
    	  geographically based) and have each make a certain number
    	  of copies.
    
    	  This disadvantages of this are:
    
    		+ getting the volunteers
    		+ Another generation (copy).  But if we did it this
    		  way, I'd be willing to make the master on my Beta
    	          which would probably compensate for the extra cassette
    	  	  generation required.
    
    I know - I should probably just PICK ONE and get the damn thing going.
    
	db
1114.9if you can't afford a duplicator...TWIN4::DEHAHNFri Jan 29 1988 09:5611
    
    I'll volunteer to make 10 copies. Get me a high quality master
    cassette, Dolby B or C. If B, I can make B or C copies. If C, only
    B copies. I only have one B/C deck. NO dbx, unless someone lends
    me a 150x or something.
    
    If you need 15 copies I won't complain too loud 8^).
    
    CdH
    
    
1114.10SALSA::MOELLERWaiting for GooDATFri Jan 29 1988 11:1710
    YAY ! Pro duping ! I've gotten recent prices on duping as low as
    $2.00/cassette, chrome Dolby 'B'.. also some smaller dupers will
    take orders for as few as 25-50 tapes.
    
    Also, perhaps after the pieces are sequenced onto the master then
    someone could make a copyable cover, text only (unless some Mac
    owner with a laser/Image printer got creative).. if the Usenet
    folks can do it so could we.
    
    karl
1114.11I like the idea!29588::MOLLERFri Jan 29 1988 11:1915
    I vote for the extra buck. I'd like a copy of the COMMUSIC IV tape
    & I know the time invested when doing anything dealing with custom
    recordings is phenominal (at least 1 hour per minute of actual 
    recorded time). I spent 2 weeks handling a 30 minute tape of my
    own, however, I opted for buying more tape decks (ala Karl Moeller's
    approach) & was able to control the quality of the music and the
    tapes. I have some things that I'd like to contribute to COMMUSIC
    V & In general, If someone is willing to handle the monumental job
    of making the tapes up, for the price of a tape deck that helps
    make life a bit easier, Then I'm all for it. (Just so long as he
    doesn't get the 'Reflectorized Mud Flap' Option, or stick CB antennas
    all over it - I don't want to be contributing to to a delenquent!)
    
    Jens_whose_wife_thinks_I_have_too_many_cassette_decks,_guitars,_
    	microphones,_cables,_amplifiers,_etc._Moller
1114.12Yeah Yeah YeahDRUMS::FEHSKENSFri Jan 29 1988 12:0811
    I'll kick in some bucks too, if it helps.  My only concern is that
    the dupes be as high quality as possible.  Some of us try real hard
    to produce pretty high quality stuff, and if it's submitted to Dave
    (or whoever does the master) on cassette, we're already one step
    down the road to noise, distortion and generally crudding up.
    
    Gawd I wish DAT would hurry up and get here.  Too bad 7.5 ips 1/4"
    fell over and died as a "standard interchange medium".
    
    len.
    
1114.13Volunteer for Cover/Program MaterialHARDY::JKMARTINMe? I&#039;m just a lawn mower...Fri Jan 29 1988 14:316
    I am more than willing to pay more for my copy of COMMUSIC IV, Dave.
    
    I am also volunteering to do the cover/program on a Mac/LaserWriter,
    if no one else is interested.
    
    -jay (who-is-still-wondering-who-plays-what-on-his-COMMUSIC-III-tape)
1114.144TRACK::LAQUERREFri Jan 29 1988 16:259
    
    I'm also willing to pay some $$ toward the compiling and mastering of
    COMMUSIC IV.  Like everyone else I really appreciate the time and
    effort Dave put into COMMUSIC III.  I can make some copies using my
    FOSTEX X-15 and my Nakamichi deck (DOLBY B only) since the X-15 runs at
    the same tape speed.  Only problem is I don't know if the quality's
    good enough. 
        
    Peter
1114.15DREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveFri Jan 29 1988 17:0110
    I think I'm gonna go with a metal cassette master.  I'll figure
    out details of distribution later.
    
    I really appreciate everyone's kind words.  To be honest, it's really
    not that much work.  I don't wanna give anyone the impression that
    I'm making any great sacrifices.  Truth is, I'm just trying to
    find further short cuts.  It's a minor pain to always be
    "feeding" the tape recorder.  There's got to be a better way.
    
    	db
1114.16probably just reflecting feelings had by many ...ECADSR::SHERMANNo, Rodney. That&#039;s *old* science! ...Fri Jan 29 1988 17:1825
    I'm still willing to volunteer my machine.  As far as voting goes,
    it's probably best to get a pro to do the copying from a really
    good master (cassette if that's the only option), but I'm not in
    favor of high-speed dubbing.  With my machine (which is cheap, but
    not bad) I can get 30 - 14 kHz in normal, 30 - 16 kHz in metal at
    normal speeds.  I don't know (and the specs don't say) what happens
    after high-speed dubbing, but it seems to clip off the bandwidth
    on both ends, near as I can tell.  Maybe it goes to 100 - 12 kHz
    or so.  I would imagine that pro gear would do better, but I'm a
    little leary.  The last pro setup I saw had the same kind of bandwidth
    problems at high speed, but was okay at normal.
    
    Extra buck(s) for a COMMUSIC IV or later tape is no big deal.  If
    it makes it more convenient and there is little compromise in quality,
    go for it.  At this time, I'm pretty below-average when it comes
    to doing music, so this is probably the only avenue I'll have for 
    publishing my stuff.  Considering also the caliber of audience involved
    and the potential for good feedback/static about my music, a couple
    of bucks extra is a small price to pay.  Like Karl, I'd like to
    make contributing to the latest COMMUSIC tape a regular thing, so
    long as y'all are willing to give my stuff a listen.
    
    
    Steve
    
1114.17CANYON::MOELLERBack in the Y-life againMon Feb 01 1988 13:174
    Should 'Liner Notes' be posted to a new topic in this conference or
    VAXmailed directly to someone ?
    
    karl
1114.18Send me your liner notes via mailDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveMon Feb 01 1988 13:256
    Mail the liner notes to me.
    
    The mastering process has started, btw.  The master tape is a Maxell
    C-90 MX (Metal) recorded with Dolby B (blech).
    
    	db
1114.19One Tape, One NoteHPSRAD::NORCROSSMon Feb 01 1988 13:3012
Re: < Note 1114.17 by CANYON::MOELLER "Back in the Y-life again" >

I would like to see everything concerning the tape in one note (this one).
(Or at least fewer notes than in the past.)

This is opposed to having one note for the progress of the tape, one note
for the liner notes, one note for the reviews, one note for the commusicians
strike back, one note for technical discussion, etc.

Shoot me down...

/Mitch
1114.20Announcing Commusic IVDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveTue Feb 02 1988 10:30170
    The Commusic IV master is just about completed.  I need to go back
    and redo one submission, but it's a minor change.  I've even made
    a copy that I will give (for $2.50) to the person at tonite's MUSIC
    noters get-together who agrees to make the most copies.
    
    The master is a Maxell MX with Dolby B.
    
    Here's the (very) preliminary liner notes outline
    
    Side A
    
    Paul Harmon
    
    	- A Smaller World
    	- We're Not Supposed to Die
    	- Leap!
    
    Karl Moeller
    
    	- Seven
    	- Walk in Music
    
    Frank Rene

    	- ?
    	- ?
    
    Brad Schafer

    	- 10 to 9
    	- Compromise
    
    Side B
    
    Brad Schafer

    	- Hand in Hand
    
    Peter Laquerre
    
    	- You Better Start
    	- Rebecca
    
    Dave Bottom
    
    	- Born in Chicago
    	- TV Eye
    	- Pay Day
    
    Steve Sherman
    
    	- ?
    
    Dan Dube
    
    	- The Reason Why
    	- In Your Dreams
    
    Mitch Norcross
    
    	- Visions
    
    Tom Janzen
    
    	- ?
    	- ?
    	- ?
    
    The "?" mean either that I don't seem to have received any indication
    of the titles (Frank Rene) or that I just didn't write them down
    on the crib sheet I brought into work.
    
    In any case, ALL contributors should send me:
    
    1) Liner notes if you haven't already
    
    2) Do you want your submission tape returned.  If so, have you sent me return
       postage.
    
    3) How do you want to get a copy of Commusic IV:
    
    	a) record over submission tape (it must be a C-90)
    
    	b) New tape, if so have you provided me with the $4 to cover
    	   the cost of the tape, postage, mailing envelope? 
    
    
    					NOTE
    
    		Do NOT even ask me to front you the money for ANYTHING.
    		I just won't.  I haven't been stiffed on anything for
    		the Commusic tapes, but I have been stiffed for similar
    		things.  It's not like it would break me, but I'm just
    		not willing to let it happen.  Call it a personality
    		quirk of mine.  'nuf said.    
    		
    Please answer ALL of these questions, not just some.  

    I'm going to start making copies.  The contributors will get the
    first copies I make.  If you have some kind of problem with how
    your submissions came out, I'm willing to correct the master for
    SUBSEQUENT copies, but I'm not going to re-do any existing copies.
    If making a correction involves sending me a new tape back, YOU
    will have to pay postage both ways.  I did my best, but I am not
    going to pay for any mistakes I made.  Remember I'm a volunteer.

    I've thought of some methods to make this thing go smoother.  I'm
    going to be posting some submission guidelines in the submission
    note.  THe most significant change is that I'm going to require
    a form, just so that I can keep all the various instructions (mastering
    instructions, tape return instructions, what you sent me, etc) in
    a consistent form.  I tend to forget things that are spread all
    over various notes.

    The 10 folks whose contributions are on Commusic IV are the first
    10 folks from whom I received tapes.  If your stuff didn't get on,
    it's because it was received after these 10.  I also decided not
    to put my stuff on partially out of generosity to allow room for
    others and, I admit, partially to be able to take more time to
    do it 'right'.
    
    The only tape I believe to have in my posession that there wasn't
    room for on Commusic IV is Paul Kent's.  If you sent me a tape
    and you're not Paul Kent AND you aren't listed above, contact me.
    One or two folks said they're tape was "in the mail" but I have
    no record of receiving them (and I've been keeping pretty good
    records).
    
    The ordering instructions are the same as always.  They're posted
    in 945.  Be aware that it will be about a week before I've finished
    the contributor copies which have top priority.
    
    I'd also like to ask that if you know several people who are intending
    to order a copy and the slight audio degradation of an extra tape
    generation isn't very critical to you, PLEASE get your friends to
    make a copy for you instead of ordering one from me.  Remember,
    I do not make any money off this and I have good reasons for wanting
    to keep it that way.  It's simply extra work for me.
    
    One additional note, once I get a few copies made, I'll be hauling
    a bunch down to a LEDS-BIM so LEDS-BIM attendees might wanna hold
    off on sending their order via mail.  You can save a little postage
    and handling.
    
    For the moment, I'm not going to add a surcharge (to pay for a dubbing
    deck as has been proposed).  I'll give advance notice if I end up
    doing that.
    
    OK, comments on the content.  It's good.  While my personal opinion
    is that the musical content may be slightly down from Commusic III,
    it's clear that the technology improvements are making an impact.
    
    While I prefer the content of Commusic III, I'd still say I prefer
    this tape to Commusic I and II.
    
    Audio quality wise, I have to admit that not using the Beta for
    mastering has had some impact.  Although, I now think that the biggest
    problem seems to be that Dolby NR seemed to REALLY WORK for some
    submissions, but slightly screwed up other submissions.  I have
    a feeling that Dolby NR is either very critical to calibration, or
    very prone to going out of calibration.  I'm going to suggest that
    when possible, people send me two copies of each submission, one
    with dolby, one without and trust me to choose which works out best.
    
    I used two decks to do the mastering and Dolby seems to work well
    (noticeably well) between those two decks.  THus, I tend to doubt
    that it's my decks that are out of calibration, but I may have that
    checked before I start Commusic V.
    
	db
1114.21CANYON::MOELLERBack in the Y-life againTue Feb 02 1988 12:075
    THANK YOU DAVE !!
    
    LEDS-BIM attendees, please buy him a drink, or three
    
    karl
1114.22Commusic IV Liner NotesDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveFri Feb 05 1988 17:07645
			       C O M M U S I C     I V
    
    				L I N E R   N O T E S


Recording Date: 1-Feb-1988

Summary:

    Side A
    
	    Paul Harmon
    
	    	- A Smaller World
	    	- We're Not Supposed to Die
	    	- Leap!
	    
	    Karl Moeller
	    
	    	- Seven
	    	- Walk in Music
	    
	    Frank Rene
	
	    	- Learning to Sail
	    	- We Can Be (What We Want to Be)
	    
	    Brad Schafer
	
	    	- 10 to 9
	    	- Compromise
	    
	    Side B
	    
	    Brad Schafer
	
	    	- Hand in Hand
	    
	    Peter Laquerre
	    
	    	- You Better Start
	    	- Rebecca
	    
	    Dave Bottom
	    
	    	- Born in Chicago
	    	- TV Eye
	    	- Pay Day
	    
	    Steve Sherman
	    
	    	- Just About Enough
	    
	    Dan Dube
	    
	    	- The Reason Why
	    	- In Your Dreams
	    
	    Mitch Norcross
	    
	    	- Visions
	    
	    Tom Janzen
	    
		- Le Sacre de Printemps: Stravinsky.
		- Suite for Cello: Prelude: J. S. Bach. 
		 - On D: Tom Janzen 



				Paul Harmon

"A Smaller World"

"We're Not Supposed To Die"

Both of these songs were written/played by me and recorded on a Portastudio 
244.  Instruments and signal processors included:

        Ensoniq ESQ-1
        Fender Stratocaster
        Kramer DMZ-1000
        Yamaha RX-15
        Hohner Marine Band harmonica
        Deltalab Effectron I digital delay
        Furman RV-1 reverb
        Pearl Overdrive

"Leap!"

Also recorded on my Portastudio, with the same signal processors.
This is a free improvisation with some pre-planning.  I decided in advance
that there would be four sections, and that they would alternate being
in/out of tempo from section to section.  I recorded a drum track that followed
that plan, and then improvised over it until I felt it was finished.  Except
for the distorted guitar in the second in-tempo section, everything here was a 
first take.  Instruments were:

        Yamaha SA-2000 guitar
        Fender Precision Bass
        Boss DR-110 "Dr. Rhythm" (unfortunately)



				Karl Moeller

"Seven" and "Walk In Music"  -  karl moeller

The selection of these two submissions was based on some value 
judgements about Commusic noters' listening tastes. Call it market 
research.  I wanted 'you' the majority of noters (read 'rockers'?) 
to like my submissions, and thus I was reluctant to send pieces 
prominently featuring sampled ethnic instruments, like 'Andean 
Agogo in 11/8' and 'Weekend Raga'. Or the entirely percussion 
'Big Thing Stomps Around'.

"Seven"  -  karl moeller

This was one of those gratifying experiments. I recorded a left-hand
piano part to Performer's metronome clicking away in 7/8. Then I
recorded a right-hand part, and dumped it to cassette and played it
in the car for several days. Sections of the righthand part didn't
work at all, so I edited them out.

One of my goals for this piece was to avoid use of the 8track, so
I created an Emax performance diskette with fretless bass, drums,
sax, and Kurzweil strings (doubling the right-hand piano part).
Then I recorded the bass line, drums and sax. The Emax sax phrases 
neatly filled the holes in the righthand piano part. Tried to make 
the bass/snare parts as heavy as possible. I've since remixed it
holding off the righthand chords for two measures.

The phrasing works, complementing the time signature, and 
occasionally the right-hand part slides into polyrhythms over
seven. I like it. It rocks.

"Walk In Music"  -  karl moeller

This piece was commissioned, and was used as walk-in music for 
both the audience and actors in a locally produced play. When I met
the cast of the play several of the actors (all college students) 
asked me if they could get copies of it. High praise. I love exact 
specifications. BTW, my 'sound design' for the play won a 'Best In
State' award at the Arizona College Drama Festival 12/87.

The piece is both energetic and dreamy. Lots of bass/drums 'street' 
feel, but becomes sort of meditative due to the stasis of the 
bass pattern and the ethereal Fairlight stereo sweep on top. 

Four basic layers in this piece, done with Performer synced to 8-track.

The bass line was played realtime to a Performer click, no repairs or 
quantizing. The sound is a composite of the Fb01 'Cheeky' patch, an 
Emax pizzicato acoustic bass, and the MKS-20 'clav' sound. During 
the chord/chorus section there is also a right-hand component that 
repeats thru the chord changes. Used a single track on the Fostex, 
later stereoized with chorus and analog delay (perhaps too much)
during mixdown.

The Emax drum samples were apparently ported from the E-Mu Systems' 
SP-12 drumbox. The drum track is a carefully quantized 16 measures 
that repeats thru the piece, with edited pauses to match the bassline. 
The drums got 2 tracks on the Fostex in order to preserve the stereo 
imaging, and to allow me to use gated reverb on them (only got one 
reverb unit, doncha know).

I wanted the piano part to sound chordal rather than linear. The 
sound is mainly MKS-20 piano 1 with a dollop of Emax stereo grand 
for hammer slap. Two Fostex tracks.

The top layer is an Emax sample of a Fairlight 'vocal' patch, using
the Emax' analog controls to diddle the filter and stereo panning.
Also used two tracks on the Fostex for obvious reasons.



				Frank Rene

SONG #1

"Learning to Sail"


     The way this piece started was very different than the way it ended
up. It originally wasn't going to include any horns, but one night I tried 
it and it stuck. The reason I wrote this piece was to see if I could come 
up with a reasonably interesting tune combining ordinary and not-so-ordinary 
chord progressions/tensions. The drums,bass and electric piano were sequenced. 
The horns,sax and piano parts were not. The recording was done on a Fostex
4-track with no bouncing. No outboard effects were used with the exception
of some digital reverb on the drums.

MUSICIANS:
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 This piece was entirely written and performed/recorded by myself.

INSTRUMENTS used:
----------------

  Ensoniq Mirage,ESQ-1

           ------------------------------------------------
           ------------------------------------------------

SONG #2

"We can be (what we want to be)"


     My brother asked me to come up with a top 40-ish tune to which he
would write lyrics around. So that's what I tried to do in this piece.
The tune came out pretty much as planned. To give the tune something
extra, I added a bridge that had a different motif than the rest of the
tune and a guitar/drum break just to break things up a bit. The drums,
bass, horns and two of the syth parts were sequenced. The other synth parts,
strings (and of course) guitar and vocals were not sequenced. The recording
was done on the Fostex 4-track. Digital delay was used on the vocals
as well as to produce a stereo field from the rythym section. No track
bouncing was done on the 4-track.



Music           - Frank Rene

Lyrics          - Brian Rene, Vicki Oliveria


MUSICIANS:
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Keyboards        - Frank Rene, Mark Dwinell

Drum programming - Frank Rene

Vocals           - Brian Rene

Guitar           - Don Mousseau

INSTRUMENTS used:
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Ensoniq Mirage,ESQ-1

Roland Juno-6

Custom Kramer guitar




				Brad Schafer


LINER NOTES - COMMUSIC IV
-------------------------

   Tape contains three songs, which are in various stages of development.

   All recording performed on TEAC Tascam 144 (Dolby B).

   All mixdowns to Yamaha K-960 (Dolby B used).

   All songs copyright � Brad Schafer / OldAbe Music, 1987.

10 TO 9		(8:45)
-------

   "10 To 9" is more or less a recording of a jam session.  The body of
   the song was written in about 5 minutes, the bass line was sequenced
   in about 2 minutes, used four drum kit patterns in "repeat forever"
   mode.  The title of the song is of dual meaning - the piece was
   recorded at 10 to 9 (ie, 8:50pm); it is also almost 9 minutes long,
   and took 10 "phrases" to get to 9 minutes ... hence, "10 To 9". 

   Although somewhat repetitive (what do you expect for 30 minutes from
   start to finish?), there is a good deal of synergy developed between
   Kent and myself during the piece.  It is interesting to hear in
   retrospect how players can complement each other almost automatically.

   The most blatant error in the piece is toward the end, where I
   mistakenly changed a patch on the Oberheim and was kind of forced to
   go with it.  As the piece is a jam, and thus has no real conclusion,
   the piece kind of breaks down at the end - but the breakdown (and
   obvious ending) is kind of fun to listen to. 

RECORDING ERRATA

   Other than bass line and drums, all playing was recorded live and
   as-is, with no corrections, overdubs, or quantization.  Headphones
   used for monitoring during recording.

	   Players:	Kent Burnside, guitar; Brad Schafer, keyboards
	   Mixer:	Peavey Mk III 16 chan
	   Guitar:	Fender hollow body
	   Guitar FX:	Tokai Magicalbox (Rockman clone)
	   Synths:	Oberheim OB-Xa (controller)�, 2 Yamaha TX7
	   Drums:	Roland TR-707
	   Sequencer:	Yamaha QX7
	   FX:		None�

	     �	The Oberheim is sorely lacking as a controller,
		transmitting only MIDI note-on/note-off, with no
		velocity, sustain, modulation or pitch bend. 

	     �	MIDIverb II used during mixdown from 144 to K960

COMPROMISE	(5:41)
----------

   This piece was my first attempt at composition/ recording/ MIDI.  It
   was recorded over a 2 week period around Christmas 1986.  I had never
   used a sequencer, drum box, or and kind of tape sync before attempting
   this piece, and had never attempted to write any music before this
   time. 

   "Compromise" was sequenced (and quantized extensively) using the QX7.
   There are roughly 7300 "notes" in the piece - I ran out of memory
   several times until the magnificent Mr. Edd (Cote) gave me a few hints
   about the QX7 temporary buffer (thanks, Edd).  Again, the Oberheim was
   used as a controller, which was quite frustrating, as it does not
   respond to or transmit anything but note on/off. 

   In programming the drums, I tried to intersperse random rim shots and
   accent "strange" beats in order to make the playing sound a bit more
   realistic.  The mix seems to be a bit heavy on percussion, the hi-hat
   in particular.

   I got a bit carried away with tape sync, ping-ponging and layering,
   using all three synths on each take.  4 MIDI channels were used; each
   channel used all three synths (including the Xa in bi-timbral mode).
   Due to this over-extension, there is a bit of distortion that shows up
   every now and then. 

   The guitar lead was recorded thru the Peavey, using the board's reverb
   unit.  The mix is entirely wet - no dry signal was recorded.  That's
   why the guitar has no bite.

   Unfortunately, after the first pass of "Compromise" was on tape in its
   entirety, the sequence was lost (I forgot to back it up to tape).  At
   some point, I plan to resequence the piece, but have not yet done so. 

   My least favorite part of "Compromise" is the synthesized bells during
   the solo at the end of the piece.  These were recorded realtime and as
   an afterthought, and are much too bright and loud. 

RECORDING ERRATA

	   Players:	Brad Schafer, guitar & keyboards
	   Mixer:	Peavey Mk III 16 chan
	   Guitar:	Hagstrom Swede (Patch 2000)
	   Guitar FX:	Tokai Magicalbox (Rockman clone)
	   Synths:	Oberheim OB-Xa (controller), 2 Yamaha TX7
	   Drums:	Roland TR-707
	   Sequencer:	Yamaha QX7
	   FX:		spring reverb in mixer�

	     �	MIDIverb II used during mixdown from 144 to K960

HAND IN HAND	(4:22)
------------

   This piece is another "half hour" effort.  It was written around a
   friend's lyrics, which discuss her personal struggle in giving her
   life completely to the Lord.  Since the piece is written for a female
   vocal range, I have not attempted to add vocal tracks myself.  8-)

   While the piece as-is can stand on its own as a soundtrack, it is not
   yet complete. I would like to add a rhythm guitar track and sax fill
   to the song at some point in time, as well as rearrange the bridge and
   transition to coda al fin�. 

   "Hand In Hand" was written in about � hour to an hour, and recorded
   over a period of roughly 5 days.  The bulk of this time was spent
   programming the drum kit and playing with the MIDIverb (ie,
   non-productive). 

   All keyboard parts (excepting bass line) were played live into the ESQ
   and then mixed to tape, allowing the Oberheim (strings and analog
   synth patches) to be mixed live during recording.

   The Peavey mixer is far superior to the BiAmp.  Had I been able to
   borrow it again, I would have. 

RECORDING ERRATA

   "Hand In Hand" was recorded in one pass to two tracks of the 144. 

	   Players:	Brad Schafer, keyboards
	   Mixer:	BiAmp 1202 12 chan
	   Guitar:	none
	   Guitar FX:	n/a
	   Synths:	Ensoniq ESQ-1, Oberheim OB-Xa, 2 Yamaha TX7
	   Drums:	Roland TR-707
	   Sequencer:	ESQ-1
	   FX:		MIDIverb II




				Peter LaQuerre

	- You Better Start
	- Rebecca

I use a Fostex X-15 4-track cassette deck, which I mix down to my 
Nakamichi BX-1 stereo deck.  I wrote and performed both songs.

"You Better Start" was performed on a Madeira six-string acoustic
guitar and a borrowed electric bass guitar.  Difficulties between 
two married friends inspired the lyrics, but I "fictionalized" 
some of the events. 

"Rebecca" was recorded with a Casio CZ-1000 and a Roland TR-505 drum 
machine.  I even did the bass track with the CZ-1000, but since then 
I've come up with some better bass patches--some from advice in the 
COMMUSIC notes conference.
	



				Dave Bottom


These three songs were recorded at Studio 8 in Laconia NH using their fostex
A-80, tascam 320, proverb, Yamaha GB2020 etc.

The purpose was to attempt to capture the sound of our old band (now defunct)
the LA East Rhythm and Blues band. We chose two cover songs that we felt
were 1. easy to record 2. were representative of our overall sound. We also
chose to record Payday (also on CM III in a home studio version) as I wrote
that song for the band and we never learned/performed it until now.
   
The players:

Guitars/vocals: Dave Bottom
Vocals/harp: Doug Brosius
Bass: Steve Brooks
drums: Ray "the count" Corlis

The songs:

Born In Chicago: An old Paul Butterfield song. We recorded the bass guitar,
lead guitar and drums first. Added a rhythm guitar track, redid the lead
guitar track, added the harp and vocals last. I wasn't satisifed with the
lead guitar even when we stopped; it seems a bit frantic to me, but was
kept as it was representative of our 'live' sound which was what we hoped
to capture.

Television Eye: A John Mayhall song, one of LA East's old standards a great
favorite of mine. Rhythm guitar, bass and drums recorded first. We then
added the lead guitar track and did the harp vocals last. If I do say so
I think this is the definitive version....

Payday: My original. Ray helped rearrange the song the night before. We learned
and rehearsed minus the harp player the night before. We must have played this
song a total of 4 times during the rehearsals and the harp player did his
tracks cold with no rehearsals. Recorded the rhythm guitar, bass and drums
first, then did the harp track, then another rhythm guitar track and then the
slide lead finally we did the vocals, backup vocals are myself and our engineer
Bill Plisco. 

We started recording this session at 11:00 am, we finished at 4:30 pm. It
was rushed a bit but the quality of the muscians that I had to work with
really shows through. Speaking for both myself and the band we felt the
session was a success, we accomplished exactly what we intended to, recorded
the three songs and had a great time.
             
personal euipment used:

Doug uses the standard hofner blues harps, mic'd with a shure green bullet
running through a fender super reverb for that dirty chicago blues harp sound.
Mik'd by a beyer mmike of some sort. 

Steve ran the bas direct into the board, he uses a musicmman bass, a Precision
bass clone with active electronics.

rays drums are budget, consequently we did have some problems with ringing
etc. a total of four mikes were used, but I dunno what or how....

dave used a fender strat, and a fender lead 1, glass bottle for slide, an
Ibanez DM-1000 digital delay, some stomp box chorus that I borrowed (arion?),
ernie ball strings and tortex picks, run this all through a fender studio lead
mic'd by a Beyer mike of some sort.... 




				Steve Sherman

    
Title: "Just About Enough"

>    1) Liner notes if you haven't already

Setup: CZ-101, TX81Z, TR-505, QX5, MVII

Comments: The weak point of this is the drums.  When I get around to it (like
maybe when I get a DAT), I'll probably redo it.  But, the idea is out so I can
start working on my next number.  I'm starting to tinker a little more with 
improvisation and phrasing on this one.  The ending's a bit weak, but the tag 
at the very last makes my boy giggle.  This song's good for helping me adjust 
my attitude...



				Dan Dube


Both of my submissions were recorded in my 8-track studio in Nashua. This
is the basic list of studio equipment used:

- Otari Mark III 5050 8-track recorder
- Carvin 16x8x2 mixer
- dbx 166 compression/noise gate
- Roland SRV 2000 digital reverb
- ADA digital delay
- Minolta VHS HiFi VCR

All songs were recorded by the old version of my band, MAX Q.

1) The Reason Why  (Copyright 1986 Dan Dube)

This song was a major experiment in bouncing tracks. This is actually a
3-generation tape consisting of a total of 20 tracks. The basic scheme was
like this:

                          1st generation (all drums)

Trk1     Trk2     Trk3     Trk4     Trk5     Trk6     Trk7     Trk8
Bass     Snare    Hi-Hat   1st Tom  2nd Tom  Floor    Overhead Overhead
Drum     Drum                                Tom      Left     Right

                                      |
                                      |
                           (mixed down to VHS HiFi)
                                      |
                                      |
                                  Bounce #1

Trk1     Trk2     Trk3     Trk4     Trk5     Trk6     Trk7     Trk8
Drum     Drum     Bass     Crunch   Crunch   Clean    Organ    Piano/
Mix      Mix               Guitar   Guitar   Guitar            Special
Left     Right             Left     Right                      Effects
                                      |
                                      |
                           (mixed down to VHS HiFi)
                                      |
                                      |
                                  Bounce #2

Trk1     Trk2     Trk3     Trk4     Trk5     Trk6     Trk7     Trk8
Mixdown  Mixdown  Lead     Backup   Backup   Backup   Backup   Lead
Left     Right    Vocal    Vocal    Vocal    Vocal    Vocal    Guitar

                                      |
                                      |
                          Final mixdown to VHS HiFi


2. In Your Dreams (Copyright 1987 Dan Dube/Bill Knox)

This song was a little less ambitious of an experiment, and is actually
the first song that I ever totally engineered and produced on my own in
the studio.

Here's the basic scheme:

Trk1     Trk2     Trk3     Trk4     Trk5     Trk6     Trk7     Trk8
Bass     Snare    1st Tom  2nd Tom  Floor    Overhead Overhead Bass
Drum     Drum                       Tom      Left     Right    Guitar

                                      |
                                      |
                           (mixed down to VHS HiFi)
                                      |
                                      |
                                  Bounce #1

Trk1     Trk2     Trk3     Trk4     Trk5     Trk6     Trk7     Trk8
Drum     Drum     Clean    Lead     Keys     Lead     Backup   Backup
Mix      Mix      Guitar   Guitar            Vocal    Vocal    Vocal
Left     Right             
                                      |
                                      |
                          Final mixdown to VHS HiFi


Some of you may be wondering: why did he bounce to VHS HiFi instead of bouncing
six tracks to 2? The answer is simple: 2 extra tracks are opened up with
virtually no loss of sound quality. 

If you bounced six tracks down to two, that leaves six open tracks for a
total of 12 tracks. If you bounce 8 tracks down to VHS HiFi (with a dynamic
range of 90 db, which is even better than my Otari 8-track!) back to two,
that leaves six open tracks for a total of 14 tracks. You can judge for
yourself if it was worth it - I'm a big fan of this method.

FREE PLUG:
By the way, if you happen to like these tunes and dig the band, be sure
to catch MAX Q live at a gig soon! We'll be returning to the Boston club
scene sometime in late March/early April with a new, improved lineup! Check
Music notes #5.* to see when MAX Q is gigging in your area.




				Mitch Norcross


Visions           �1988 Mitch Norcross

Produced by       Mitch Norcross at Generic Sound
Sequenced using   Master Tracks Pro, Yamaha FB-01, Korg Poly-800,
                  Alesis MIDIVerb II





				Tom Janzen

Le Sacre de Printemps: Introduction, beginning; Igor Stravinsky.
	Played on a PDP-11/23 in MACRO11 (even the score is an include
	file in MACRO11) out an AAV11-C DAC (one channel).
	It was recorded on cassette and reprocessed for digital
	vibrato and reverberation with effects boxes.  The program
	allows four simultaneous voices, each with a different
	waveform.  The horn was just a sine tone, but the other instruments'
	waves were found in The Psychology of Music by Carl Seashore.
	Seashore gives the relative power of the wave's harmonics for
	different instruments.  I calculated the relative pressure
	levels by hand, and fed these into a Pascal program that
	generates both a MACRO11 include file of 256 bytes wave,
	and a DECgraph load file to display the wave.
	The program does not have envelope control or dynamic control,
	but could somewhat readily, with bandwidth degradation.
	The sample-output rate is 7.9kHz.  It is very nearly in
	tune with A440, and could easily play any form of intonation
	desired.
Suite for Cello: Prelude; J. S. Bach.  Same notes as above, but only
	one voice was used until the last note.
On D: Tom Janzen copyright (c) 1983 Thomas E. Janzen.  Using .REPT
	blocks, the score is very short indeed. Cf. notes for Le Sacre,
	above.  No vibrato was used.

	The operating system was RT11 5.4b.