Title: | * * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * * |
Notice: | Conference has been write-locked. Use new version. |
Moderator: | DYPSS1::SCHAFER |
Created: | Thu Feb 20 1986 |
Last Modified: | Mon Aug 29 1994 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2852 |
Total number of notes: | 33157 |
The following charts were taken off my TX81Z and are more 'complete' charts than what's in note 819. Mostly, I found myself trying to get a particular frequency ratio and couldn't get exactly what I wanted very easily. So, I made the charts. Using either chart, the way to get the ratio you want is to decrement the coarse and fine adjustments down to 0.50 (hold the decrement down for a few seconds), then add the number of button pushes in coarse and fine to get to the desired ratio. This first chart is a 2-d array by increasing coarse (CRS) and fine (FIN) adjustments. The second is separated from the first by a line of *'s, so do a search for * to get to the second chart. The second chart has the same information as the first, but it is sorted by ascending ratio (RTO). The second chart will probably be most useful if working from scratch. CRS FIN-> | v 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 0.50 0.56 0.62 0.68 0.75 0.81 0.87 0.93 - - - - - - - - 1 0.71 0.79 0.88 0.96 1.05 1.14 1.23 1.32 - - - - - - - - 2 0.78 0.88 0.98 1.07 1.17 1.27 1.37 1.47 - - - - - - - - 3 0.87 0.97 1.08 1.18 1.29 1.40 1.51 1.62 - - - - - - - - 4 1.00 1.06 1.12 1.18 1.25 1.31 1.37 1.43 1.50 1.56 1.62 1.68 1.75 1.81 1.87 1.93 5 1.41 1.49 1.58 1.67 1.76 1.85 1.93 2.02 2.11 2.20 2.29 2.37 2.46 2.55 2.64 2.73 6 1.57 1.66 1.76 1.86 1.96 2.06 2.15 2.25 2.35 2.45 2.55 2.64 2.74 2.84 2.94 3.04 7 1.73 1.83 1.94 2.05 2.16 2.27 2.37 2.48 2.59 2.70 2.81 2.91 3.02 3.13 3.24 3.35 8 2.00 2.06 2.12 2.18 2.25 2.31 2.37 2.43 2.50 2.56 2.62 2.68 2.75 2.81 2.87 2.93 9 2.82 2.90 2.99 3.08 3.17 3.26 3.34 3.43 3.52 3.61 3.70 3.78 3.87 3.96 4.05 4.14 10 3.00 3.06 3.12 3.18 3.25 3.31 3.37 3.43 3.50 3.56 3.62 3.68 3.75 3.81 3.87 3.93 11 3.14 3.23 3.33 3.43 3.53 3.63 3.72 3.82 3.92 4.02 4.12 4.21 4.31 4.41 4.51 4.61 12 3.46 3.56 3.67 3.78 3.89 4.00 4.10 4.21 4.32 4.43 4.54 4.64 4.75 4.86 4.97 5.08 13 4.00 4.06 4.12 4.18 4.25 4.31 4.37 4.43 4.50 4.56 4.62 4.68 4.75 4.81 4.87 4.93 14 4.24 4.31 4.40 4.49 4.58 4.67 4.75 4.84 4.93 5.02 5.11 5.19 5.28 5.37 5.46 5.55 15 4.71 4.80 4.90 5.00 5.10 5.20 5.29 5.39 5.49 5.59 5.69 5.78 5.88 5.98 6.08 6.18 16 5.00 5.06 5.12 5.18 5.25 5.31 5.37 5.43 5.50 5.56 5.62 5.68 5.75 5.81 5.87 5.93 17 5.19 5.29 5.40 5.51 5.62 5.73 5.83 5.94 6.05 6.16 6.27 6.37 6.48 6.59 6.70 6.81 18 5.65 5.72 5.81 5.90 5.99 6.08 6.16 6.25 6.34 6.43 6.52 6.60 6.69 6.78 6.87 6.96 19 6.00 6.06 6.12 6.18 6.25 6.31 6.37 6.43 6.50 6.56 6.62 6.68 6.75 6.81 6.87 6.93 20 6.28 6.37 6.47 6.57 6.67 6.77 6.86 6.96 7.06 7.16 7.26 7.35 7.45 7.55 7.65 7.75 21 6.92 7.02 7.13 7.24 7.35 7.46 7.56 7.67 7.78 7.89 8.00 8.10 8.21 8.32 8.43 8.54 22 7.00 7.06 7.12 7.18 7.25 7.31 7.37 7.43 7.50 7.56 7.62 7.68 7.75 7.81 7.87 7.93 23 7.07 7.13 7.22 7.31 7.40 7.49 7.57 7.66 7.75 7.84 7.93 8.01 8.10 8.19 8.28 8.37 24 7.85 7.94 8.04 8.14 8.24 8.34 8.43 8.53 8.63 8.73 8.83 8.92 9.02 9.12 9.22 9.32 25 8.00 8.06 8.12 8.18 8.25 8.31 8.37 8.43 8.50 8.56 8.62 8.68 8.75 8.81 8.87 8.93 26 8.48 8.54 8.63 8.72 8.81 8.90 8.98 9.07 9.16 9.25 9.34 9.42 9.51 9.60 9.69 9.78 27 8.65 8.75 8.86 8.97 9.08 9.19 9.29 9.40 9.51 9.62 9.73 9.83 9.94 10.05 10.16 10.27 28 9.00 9.06 9.12 9.18 9.25 9.31 9.37 9.43 9.50 9.56 9.62 9.68 9.75 9.81 9.87 9.93 29 9.42 9.51 9.61 9.71 9.81 9.91 10.00 10.10 10.20 10.30 10.40 10.49 10.59 10.69 10.79 10.89 30 9.89 9.95 10.04 10.13 10.22 10.31 10.39 10.48 10.57 10.66 10.75 10.83 10.92 11.01 11.10 11.19 31 10.00 10.06 10.12 10.18 10.25 10.31 10.37 10.43 10.50 10.56 10.62 10.68 10.75 10.81 10.87 10.93 32 10.38 10.48 10.59 10.70 10.81 10.92 11.02 11.13 11.24 11.35 11.45 11,56 11.67 11.78 11.89 12.00 33 10.99 11.08 11.18 11.28 11.38 11.48 11.57 11.67 11.77 11.87 11.97 12.06 12.16 12.26 12.36 12.46 34 11.00 11.06 11.12 11.18 11.25 11.31 11.37 11.43 11.50 11.56 11.62 11.68 11.75 11.81 11.87 11.93 35 11.30 11.36 11.45 11.54 11.63 11.72 11.80 11.89 11.98 12.07 12.16 12.24 12.33 12.42 12.51 12.60 36 12.00 12.06 12.12 12.18 12.25 12.31 12.37 12.43 12.50 12.56 12.62 12.68 12.75 12.81 12.87 12.93 37 12.11 12.21 12.32 12.43 12.54 12.65 12.75 12.86 12.97 13.08 13.19 13.29 13.40 13.51 13.62 13.73 38 12.56 12.65 12.75 12.85 12.95 13.05 13.14 13.24 13.34 13.44 13.54 13.63 13.73 13.83 13.93 14.03 39 12.72 12.77 12.86 12.95 13.04 13.13 13.21 13.30 13.39 13.48 13.57 13.65 13.74 13.83 13.92 14.01 40 13.00 13.06 13.12 13.18 13.25 13.31 13.37 13.43 13.50 13.56 13.62 13.68 13.75 13.81 13.87 13.93 41 13.84 13.94 14.05 14.16 14.27 14.38 14.48 14.59 14.70 14.81 14.92 15.02 15.13 15.24 15.35 15.46 42 14.00 14.06 14.12 14.18 14.25 14.31 14.37 14.43 14.50 14.56 14.62 14.68 14.75 14.81 14.87 14.93 43 14.10 14.18 14.27 14.36 14.45 14.54 14.62 14.71 14.80 14.89 14.98 15.06 15.15 15.24 15.33 15.42 44 14.13 14.22 14.32 14.42 14.52 14.62 14.71 14.81 14.91 15.01 15.11 15.20 15.30 15.40 15.50 15.60 45 15.00 15.06 15.12 15.18 15.25 15.31 15.37 15.43 15.50 15.56 15.62 15.68 15.75 15.81 15.87 15.93 46 15.55 15.59 15.68 15.77 15.86 15.95 16.03 16.12 16.21 16.30 16.39 16.47 16.56 16.65 16.74 16.83 47 15.57 15.67 15.78 15.89 16.00 16.11 16.21 16.32 16.43 16.54 16.65 16.75 16.86 16.97 17.08 17.19 48 15.70 15.79 15.89 15.99 16.09 16.19 16.28 16.38 16.48 16.58 16.68 16.77 16.87 16.97 17.07 17.17 49 16.96 17.00 17.09 17.18 17.27 17.36 17.44 17.53 17.62 17.71 17.80 17.88 17.97 18.06 18.15 18.24 50 17.27 17.36 17.46 17.56 17.66 17.76 17.85 17.95 18.05 18.15 18.25 18.34 18.44 18.54 18.64 18.74 51 17.30 17.40 17.51 17.62 17.73 17.84 17.94 18.05 18.16 18.27 18.38 18.48 18.59 18.70 18.81 18.92 52 18.37 18.41 18.50 18.59 18.68 18.77 18.85 18.94 19.03 19.12 19.21 19.29 19.38 19.47 19.56 19.65 53 18.84 18.93 19.03 19.13 19.23 19.33 19.42 19.52 19.62 19.72 19.82 19.91 20.01 20.11 20.21 20.31 54 19.03 19.13 19.24 19.35 19.46 19.57 19.67 19.78 19.89 20.00 20.11 20.21 20.32 20.43 20.54 20.65 55 19.78 19.82 19.91 20.00 20.09 20.18 20.26 20.35 20.44 20.53 20.62 20.70 20.79 20.88 20.97 21.06 56 20.41 20.50 20.60 20.70 20.80 20.90 20.99 21.09 21.19 21.29 21.39 21.48 21.58 21.68 21.78 21.88 57 20.76 20.86 20.97 21.08 21.19 21.30 21.40 21.51 21.62 21.73 21.84 21.94 22.05 22.16 22.27 22.38 58 21.20 21.23 21.32 21.41 21.50 21.59 21.67 21.76 21.85 21.94 22.03 22.11 22.20 22.29 22.38 22.47 59 21.98 22.07 22.17 22.27 22.37 22.47 22.56 22.66 22.76 22.86 22.96 23.05 23.15 23.25 23.35 23.45 60 22.49 22.59 22.70 22.81 22.92 23.03 23.13 23.24 23.35 23.46 23.57 23.67 23.78 23.89 24.00 24.11 61 23.55 23.64 23.74 23.84 23.94 24.04 24.13 24.23 24.33 24.43 24.53 24.62 24.72 24.82 24.92 25.02 62 24.22 24.32 24.43 24.54 24.65 24.76 24.86 24.97 25.08 25.19 25.30 25.40 25.51 25.62 25.73 25.84 63 25.95 26.05 26.16 26.27 26.38 26.49 26.59 26.70 26.81 26.92 27.03 27.13 27.24 27.35 27.46 27.57 ******************************************************************************** RTO CRS FIN 0.50 0 0 0.56 0 1 0.62 0 2 0.68 0 3 0.71 1 0 0.75 0 4 0.78 2 0 0.79 1 1 0.81 0 5 0.87 0 6 0.87 3 0 0.88 1 2 0.88 2 1 0.93 0 7 0.96 1 3 0.97 3 1 0.98 2 2 1.00 4 0 1.05 1 4 1.06 4 1 1.07 2 3 1.08 3 2 1.12 4 2 1.14 1 5 1.17 2 4 1.18 3 3 1.18 4 3 1.23 1 6 1.25 4 4 1.27 2 5 1.29 3 4 1.31 4 5 1.32 1 7 1.37 2 6 1.37 4 6 1.40 3 5 1.41 5 0 1.43 4 7 1.47 2 7 1.49 5 1 1.50 4 8 1.51 3 6 1.56 4 9 1.57 6 0 1.58 5 2 1.62 3 7 1.62 4 10 1.66 6 1 1.67 5 3 1.68 4 11 1.73 7 0 1.75 4 12 1.76 5 4 1.76 6 2 1.81 4 13 1.83 7 1 1.85 5 5 1.86 6 3 1.87 4 14 1.93 4 15 1.93 5 6 1.94 7 2 1.96 6 4 10.00 29 6 10.00 31 0 10.04 30 2 10.05 27 13 10.06 31 1 10.10 29 7 10.12 31 2 10.13 30 3 10.16 27 14 10.18 31 3 10.20 29 8 10.22 30 4 10.25 31 4 10.27 27 15 10.30 29 9 10.31 30 5 10.31 31 5 10.37 31 6 10.38 32 0 10.39 30 6 10.40 29 10 10.43 31 7 10.48 30 7 10.48 32 1 10.49 29 11 10.50 31 8 10.56 31 9 10.57 30 8 10.59 29 12 10.59 32 2 10.62 31 10 10.66 30 9 10.68 31 11 10.69 29 13 10.70 32 3 10.75 30 10 10.75 31 12 10.79 29 14 10.81 31 13 10.81 32 4 10.83 30 11 10.87 31 14 10.89 29 15 10.92 30 12 10.92 32 5 10.93 31 15 10.99 33 0 11,56 32 11 11.00 34 0 11.01 30 13 11.02 32 6 11.06 34 1 11.08 33 1 11.10 30 14 11.12 34 2 11.13 32 7 11.18 33 2 11.18 34 3 11.19 30 15 11.24 32 8 11.25 34 4 11.28 33 3 11.30 35 0 11.31 34 5 11.35 32 9 11.36 35 1 11.37 34 6 11.38 33 4 11.43 34 7 11.45 32 10 11.45 35 2 11.48 33 5 11.50 34 8 11.54 35 3 11.56 34 9 11.57 33 6 11.62 34 10 11.63 35 4 11.67 32 12 11.67 33 7 11.68 34 11 11.72 35 5 11.75 34 12 11.77 33 8 11.78 32 13 11.80 35 6 11.81 34 13 11.87 33 9 11.87 34 14 11.89 32 14 11.89 35 7 11.93 34 15 11.97 33 10 11.98 35 8 12.00 32 15 12.00 36 0 12.06 33 11 12.06 36 1 12.07 35 9 12.11 37 0 12.12 36 2 12.16 33 12 12.16 35 10 12.18 36 3 12.21 37 1 12.24 35 11 12.25 36 4 12.26 33 13 12.31 36 5 12.32 37 2 12.33 35 12 12.36 33 14 12.37 36 6 12.42 35 13 12.43 36 7 12.43 37 3 12.46 33 15 12.50 36 8 12.51 35 14 12.54 37 4 12.56 36 9 12.56 38 0 12.60 35 15 12.62 36 10 12.65 37 5 12.65 38 1 12.68 36 11 12.72 39 0 12.75 36 12 12.75 37 6 12.75 38 2 12.77 39 1 12.81 36 13 12.85 38 3 12.86 37 7 12.86 39 2 12.87 36 14 12.93 36 15 12.95 38 4 12.95 39 3 12.97 37 8 13.00 40 0 13.04 39 4 13.05 38 5 13.06 40 1 13.08 37 9 13.12 40 2 13.13 39 5 13.14 38 6 13.18 40 3 13.19 37 10 13.21 39 6 13.24 38 7 13.25 40 4 13.29 37 11 13.30 39 7 13.31 40 5 13.34 38 8 13.37 40 6 13.39 39 8 13.40 37 12 13.43 40 7 13.44 38 9 13.48 39 9 13.50 40 8 13.51 37 13 13.54 38 10 13.56 40 9 13.57 39 10 13.62 37 14 13.62 40 10 13.63 38 11 13.65 39 11 13.68 40 11 13.73 37 15 13.73 38 12 13.74 39 12 13.75 40 12 13.81 40 13 13.83 38 13 13.83 39 13 13.84 41 0 13.87 40 14 13.92 39 14 13.93 38 14 13.93 40 15 13.94 41 1 14.00 42 0 14.01 39 15 14.03 38 15 14.05 41 2 14.06 42 1 14.10 43 0 14.12 42 2 14.13 44 0 14.16 41 3 14.18 42 3 14.18 43 1 14.22 44 1 14.25 42 4 14.27 41 4 14.27 43 2 14.31 42 5 14.32 44 2 14.36 43 3 14.37 42 6 14.38 41 5 14.42 44 3 14.43 42 7 14.45 43 4 14.48 41 6 14.50 42 8 14.52 44 4 14.54 43 5 14.56 42 9 14.59 41 7 14.62 42 10 14.62 43 6 14.62 44 5 14.68 42 11 14.70 41 8 14.71 43 7 14.71 44 6 14.75 42 12 14.80 43 8 14.81 41 9 14.81 42 13 14.81 44 7 14.87 42 14 14.89 43 9 14.91 44 8 14.92 41 10 14.93 42 15 14.98 43 10 15.00 45 0 15.01 44 9 15.02 41 11 15.06 43 11 15.06 45 1 15.11 44 10 15.12 45 2 15.13 41 12 15.15 43 12 15.18 45 3 15.20 44 11 15.24 41 13 15.24 43 13 15.25 45 4 15.30 44 12 15.31 45 5 15.33 43 14 15.35 41 14 15.37 45 6 15.40 44 13 15.42 43 15 15.43 45 7 15.46 41 15 15.50 44 14 15.50 45 8 15.55 46 0 15.56 45 9 15.57 47 0 15.59 46 1 15.60 44 15 15.62 45 10 15.67 47 1 15.68 45 11 15.68 46 2 15.70 48 0 15.75 45 12 15.77 46 3 15.78 47 2 15.79 48 1 15.81 45 13 15.86 46 4 15.87 45 14 15.89 47 3 15.89 48 2 15.93 45 15 15.95 46 5 15.99 48 3 16.00 47 4 16.03 46 6 16.09 48 4 16.11 47 5 16.12 46 7 16.19 48 5 16.21 46 8 16.21 47 6 16.28 48 6 16.30 46 9 16.32 47 7 16.38 48 7 16.39 46 10 16.43 47 8 16.47 46 11 16.48 48 8 16.54 47 9 16.56 46 12 16.58 48 9 16.65 46 13 16.65 47 10 16.68 48 10 16.74 46 14 16.75 47 11 16.77 48 11 16.83 46 15 16.86 47 12 16.87 48 12 16.96 49 0 16.97 47 13 16.97 48 13 17.00 49 1 17.07 48 14 17.08 47 14 17.09 49 2 17.17 48 15 17.18 49 3 17.19 47 15 17.27 49 4 17.27 50 0 17.30 51 0 17.36 49 5 17.36 50 1 17.40 51 1 17.44 49 6 17.46 50 2 17.51 51 2 17.53 49 7 17.56 50 3 17.62 49 8 17.62 51 3 17.66 50 4 17.71 49 9 17.73 51 4 17.76 50 5 17.80 49 10 17.84 51 5 17.85 50 6 17.88 49 11 17.94 51 6 17.95 50 7 17.97 49 12 18.05 50 8 18.05 51 7 18.06 49 13 18.15 49 14 18.15 50 9 18.16 51 8 18.24 49 15 18.25 50 10 18.27 51 9 18.34 50 11 18.37 52 0 18.38 51 10 18.41 52 1 18.44 50 12 18.48 51 11 18.50 52 2 18.54 50 13 18.59 51 12 18.59 52 3 18.64 50 14 18.68 52 4 18.70 51 13 18.74 50 15 18.77 52 5 18.81 51 14 18.84 53 0 18.85 52 6 18.92 51 15 18.93 53 1 18.94 52 7 19.03 52 8 19.03 53 2 19.03 54 0 19.12 52 9 19.13 53 3 19.13 54 1 19.21 52 10 19.23 53 4 19.24 54 2 19.29 52 11 19.33 53 5 19.35 54 3 19.38 52 12 19.42 53 6 19.46 54 4 19.47 52 13 19.52 53 7 19.56 52 14 19.57 54 5 19.62 53 8 19.65 52 15 19.67 54 6 19.72 53 9 19.78 54 7 19.78 55 0 19.82 53 10 19.82 55 1 19.89 54 8 19.91 53 11 19.91 55 2 2.00 8 0 2.02 5 7 2.05 7 3 2.06 6 5 2.06 8 1 2.11 5 8 2.12 8 2 2.15 6 6 2.16 7 4 2.18 8 3 2.20 5 9 2.25 6 7 2.25 8 4 2.27 7 5 2.29 5 10 2.31 8 5 2.35 6 8 2.37 5 11 2.37 7 6 2.37 8 6 2.43 8 7 2.45 6 9 2.46 5 12 2.48 7 7 2.50 8 8 2.55 5 13 2.55 6 10 2.56 8 9 2.59 7 8 2.62 8 10 2.64 5 14 2.64 6 11 2.68 8 11 2.70 7 9 2.73 5 15 2.74 6 12 2.75 8 12 2.81 7 10 2.81 8 13 2.82 9 0 2.84 6 13 2.87 8 14 2.90 9 1 2.91 7 11 2.93 8 15 2.94 6 14 2.99 9 2 20.00 54 9 20.00 55 3 20.01 53 12 20.09 55 4 20.11 53 13 20.11 54 10 20.18 55 5 20.21 53 14 20.21 54 11 20.26 55 6 20.31 53 15 20.32 54 12 20.35 55 7 20.41 56 0 20.43 54 13 20.44 55 8 20.50 56 1 20.53 55 9 20.54 54 14 20.60 56 2 20.62 55 10 20.65 54 15 20.70 55 11 20.70 56 3 20.76 57 0 20.79 55 12 20.80 56 4 20.86 57 1 20.88 55 13 20.90 56 5 20.97 55 14 20.97 57 2 20.99 56 6 21.06 55 15 21.08 57 3 21.09 56 7 21.19 56 8 21.19 57 4 21.20 58 0 21.23 58 1 21.29 56 9 21.30 57 5 21.32 58 2 21.39 56 10 21.40 57 6 21.41 58 3 21.48 56 11 21.50 58 4 21.51 57 7 21.58 56 12 21.59 58 5 21.62 57 8 21.67 58 6 21.68 56 13 21.73 57 9 21.76 58 7 21.78 56 14 21.84 57 10 21.85 58 8 21.88 56 15 21.94 57 11 21.94 58 9 21.98 59 0 22.03 58 10 22.05 57 12 22.07 59 1 22.11 58 11 22.16 57 13 22.17 59 2 22.20 58 12 22.27 57 14 22.27 59 3 22.29 58 13 22.37 59 4 22.38 57 15 22.38 58 14 22.47 58 15 22.47 59 5 22.49 60 0 22.56 59 6 22.59 60 1 22.66 59 7 22.70 60 2 22.76 59 8 22.81 60 3 22.86 59 9 22.92 60 4 22.96 59 10 23.03 60 5 23.05 59 11 23.13 60 6 23.15 59 12 23.24 60 7 23.25 59 13 23.35 59 14 23.35 60 8 23.45 59 15 23.46 60 9 23.55 61 0 23.57 60 10 23.64 61 1 23.67 60 11 23.74 61 2 23.78 60 12 23.84 61 3 23.89 60 13 23.94 61 4 24.00 60 14 24.04 61 5 24.11 60 15 24.13 61 6 24.22 62 0 24.23 61 7 24.32 62 1 24.33 61 8 24.43 61 9 24.43 62 2 24.53 61 10 24.54 62 3 24.62 61 11 24.65 62 4 24.72 61 12 24.76 62 5 24.82 61 13 24.86 62 6 24.92 61 14 24.97 62 7 25.02 61 15 25.08 62 8 25.19 62 9 25.30 62 10 25.40 62 11 25.51 62 12 25.62 62 13 25.73 62 14 25.84 62 15 25.95 63 0 26.05 63 1 26.16 63 2 26.27 63 3 26.38 63 4 26.49 63 5 26.59 63 6 26.70 63 7 26.81 63 8 26.92 63 9 27.03 63 10 27.13 63 11 27.24 63 12 27.35 63 13 27.46 63 14 27.57 63 15 3.00 10 0 3.02 7 12 3.04 6 15 3.06 10 1 3.08 9 3 3.12 10 2 3.13 7 13 3.14 11 0 3.17 9 4 3.18 10 3 3.23 11 1 3.24 7 14 3.25 10 4 3.26 9 5 3.31 10 5 3.33 11 2 3.34 9 6 3.35 7 15 3.37 10 6 3.43 10 7 3.43 11 3 3.43 9 7 3.46 12 0 3.50 10 8 3.52 9 8 3.53 11 4 3.56 10 9 3.56 12 1 3.61 9 9 3.62 10 10 3.63 11 5 3.67 12 2 3.68 10 11 3.70 9 10 3.72 11 6 3.75 10 12 3.78 12 3 3.78 9 11 3.81 10 13 3.82 11 7 3.87 10 14 3.87 9 12 3.89 12 4 3.92 11 8 3.93 10 15 3.96 9 13 4.00 12 5 4.00 13 0 4.02 11 9 4.05 9 14 4.06 13 1 4.10 12 6 4.12 11 10 4.12 13 2 4.14 9 15 4.18 13 3 4.21 11 11 4.21 12 7 4.24 14 0 4.25 13 4 4.31 11 12 4.31 13 5 4.31 14 1 4.32 12 8 4.37 13 6 4.40 14 2 4.41 11 13 4.43 12 9 4.43 13 7 4.49 14 3 4.50 13 8 4.51 11 14 4.54 12 10 4.56 13 9 4.58 14 4 4.61 11 15 4.62 13 10 4.64 12 11 4.67 14 5 4.68 13 11 4.71 15 0 4.75 12 12 4.75 13 12 4.75 14 6 4.80 15 1 4.81 13 13 4.84 14 7 4.86 12 13 4.87 13 14 4.90 15 2 4.93 13 15 4.93 14 8 4.97 12 14 5.00 15 3 5.00 16 0 5.02 14 9 5.06 16 1 5.08 12 15 5.10 15 4 5.11 14 10 5.12 16 2 5.18 16 3 5.19 14 11 5.19 17 0 5.20 15 5 5.25 16 4 5.28 14 12 5.29 15 6 5.29 17 1 5.31 16 5 5.37 14 13 5.37 16 6 5.39 15 7 5.40 17 2 5.43 16 7 5.46 14 14 5.49 15 8 5.50 16 8 5.51 17 3 5.55 14 15 5.56 16 9 5.59 15 9 5.62 16 10 5.62 17 4 5.65 18 0 5.68 16 11 5.69 15 10 5.72 18 1 5.73 17 5 5.75 16 12 5.78 15 11 5.81 16 13 5.81 18 2 5.83 17 6 5.87 16 14 5.88 15 12 5.90 18 3 5.93 16 15 5.94 17 7 5.98 15 13 5.99 18 4 6.00 19 0 6.05 17 8 6.06 19 1 6.08 15 14 6.08 18 5 6.12 19 2 6.16 17 9 6.16 18 6 6.18 15 15 6.18 19 3 6.25 18 7 6.25 19 4 6.27 17 10 6.28 20 0 6.31 19 5 6.34 18 8 6.37 17 11 6.37 19 6 6.37 20 1 6.43 18 9 6.43 19 7 6.47 20 2 6.48 17 12 6.50 19 8 6.52 18 10 6.56 19 9 6.57 20 3 6.59 17 13 6.60 18 11 6.62 19 10 6.67 20 4 6.68 19 11 6.69 18 12 6.70 17 14 6.75 19 12 6.77 20 5 6.78 18 13 6.81 17 15 6.81 19 13 6.86 20 6 6.87 18 14 6.87 19 14 6.92 21 0 6.93 19 15 6.96 18 15 6.96 20 7 7.00 22 0 7.02 21 1 7.06 20 8 7.06 22 1 7.07 23 0 7.12 22 2 7.13 21 2 7.13 23 1 7.16 20 9 7.18 22 3 7.22 23 2 7.24 21 3 7.25 22 4 7.26 20 10 7.31 22 5 7.31 23 3 7.35 20 11 7.35 21 4 7.37 22 6 7.40 23 4 7.43 22 7 7.45 20 12 7.46 21 5 7.49 23 5 7.50 22 8 7.55 20 13 7.56 21 6 7.56 22 9 7.57 23 6 7.62 22 10 7.65 20 14 7.66 23 7 7.67 21 7 7.68 22 11 7.75 20 15 7.75 22 12 7.75 23 8 7.78 21 8 7.81 22 13 7.84 23 9 7.85 24 0 7.87 22 14 7.89 21 9 7.93 22 15 7.93 23 10 7.94 24 1 8.00 21 10 8.00 25 0 8.01 23 11 8.04 24 2 8.06 25 1 8.10 21 11 8.10 23 12 8.12 25 2 8.14 24 3 8.18 25 3 8.19 23 13 8.21 21 12 8.24 24 4 8.25 25 4 8.28 23 14 8.31 25 5 8.32 21 13 8.34 24 5 8.37 23 15 8.37 25 6 8.43 21 14 8.43 24 6 8.43 25 7 8.48 26 0 8.50 25 8 8.53 24 7 8.54 21 15 8.54 26 1 8.56 25 9 8.62 25 10 8.63 24 8 8.63 26 2 8.65 27 0 8.68 25 11 8.72 26 3 8.73 24 9 8.75 25 12 8.75 27 1 8.81 25 13 8.81 26 4 8.83 24 10 8.86 27 2 8.87 25 14 8.90 26 5 8.92 24 11 8.93 25 15 8.97 27 3 8.98 26 6 9.00 28 0 9.02 24 12 9.06 28 1 9.07 26 7 9.08 27 4 9.12 24 13 9.12 28 2 9.16 26 8 9.18 28 3 9.19 27 5 9.22 24 14 9.25 26 9 9.25 28 4 9.29 27 6 9.31 28 5 9.32 24 15 9.34 26 10 9.37 28 6 9.40 27 7 9.42 26 11 9.42 29 0 9.43 28 7 9.50 28 8 9.51 26 12 9.51 27 8 9.51 29 1 9.56 28 9 9.60 26 13 9.61 29 2 9.62 27 9 9.62 28 10 9.68 28 11 9.69 26 14 9.71 29 3 9.73 27 10 9.75 28 12 9.78 26 15 9.81 28 13 9.81 29 4 9.83 27 11 9.87 28 14 9.89 30 0 9.91 29 5 9.93 28 15 9.94 27 12 9.95 30 1
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993.1 | That's Fine of Course! | BARNUM::RHODES | Tue Oct 27 1987 08:41 | 6 | |
Geez, I didn't realize that the TZ had this capability. The 4-op DX's only provide for "course" adjustment. The "fine" adjustment must be linked in some way to the "alternate tuning" capabilities of the beast. Todd. | |||||
993.2 | Scaling? | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 09:24 | 16 |
Actually, if by 'alternate tuning' you are referring to scaling, that's a whole 'nuther feature. Has more to do with how the keyboard input is interpreted and is separately programmable for each voice. For example, most stuff is octavian scaled, but other scaling is available. I'm not real familiar with this, yet. It seems to be a feature of the later Yamaha stuff. I can provide more details if there is interest. The next thing I plan to do is go through all the voices and figure out what they are doing to some small extent. For example, I plan to see about grouping voices by algorithm, frequency ratios and operator amplitudes. I should be able to develop some general guidelines for how to generate voice patches from scratch. I just don't feel right about paying somebody $20+ for patches ... Naturally, I'll keep you folks posted. Steve | |||||
993.3 | Where's my dictionary note??? | JAWS::COTE | BIM me up, Scotty!!! | Tue Oct 27 1987 10:38 | 34 |
There are some terms being bandied about here that are bound to cause some confusion.... The CRS and FIN parameters on the TZ allow you to set the frequency of the operator as a function of 440 hz. This is what the DX line does. The TZ expands on it by use of the FIN parameter, allowing you to tweak the ratio of any operator. Note that the increments of fine change size as a function of the coarse setting. A low (say, 1.00) CRS setting allows small adjustments via FIN. As the CRS frequency increases so does the size of the FIN steps. Do not confuse the frequency of an operator with the frequency of a note. They be different beasts. Scaling is refered to by Yamaha as the ability to vary the output of an operator as a function of what note is played. This is used to simulate the differences in timbre an instrument displays at opposing ends of it's range. It has nothing to do with common or alternative tunings. The alternative tuning function of the TZ defines what frequency a key will produce when pressed. The equal-tempered tuning we all know and love divides 1200 cents (1 octave) into 12 equal steps of 100 cents each. The alternative tuning allows you to define these steps to any size you want. They do not have to be equal. For example, I've taken an octave and defined each key to be 1/12 of the distance between it and a reference key.... Sounds horrible, but I can do it.... Edd | |||||
993.4 | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 10:49 | 22 | |
Yeah, there may be some confusion in terms. I'm trying to follow Yamaha's definitions. The CRS and FIN adjustments for the TZ are in either FIX or RTO mode for each operator. In FIX you get control over a fixed frequency, and with RTO the control is based on frequency that can be varied from the keyboard (based on the 440 Hz A). Turns out that even this can be diddled with using detune, master tune and transpose settings. By selecting FIX mode, you can pick one frequency for an operator and adjust it using CRS and FIN. The manual shows that in this mode the CRS and FIN tend to operate a bit more intuitively than in RTO mode. For that reason, I haven't done any charting with operators in FIX mode. I don't remember offhand what all is included in the set of adjustments that Yamaha refers to as 'scaling'. But, there is a 'scale' control for the voice patch, the default being octavian. I haven't played with this much, yet. Hey, all my stuff is at home ... Steve | |||||
993.5 | ^Z Dammit!!! | JAWS::COTE | BIM me up, Scotty!!! | Tue Oct 27 1987 11:07 | 13 |
The scaling parameters are 'rate' and 'level'. I did some diddling with FIX and RTO over the weekend. They may not be as mutually exclusive as we suspect. Setting the FIX RANGE seems to have an effect on what RTO values are available. More on this as I figure it out. Aren't the alternative tuning parameters refered to as MICROTUNE? What a beast to work with. The DX-21 programmer module makes it *almost* bearable....;^) Edd | |||||
993.6 | the beast | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 13:25 | 25 |
Hmmm. I'll have to check on that idea about the RTO values changing with the FIX frequency. The values in this chart were calculated with FIX frequency set to 255 Hz. If they change with the FIX frequency, I may need to generate more charts >:(. Too bad I can't just do it via algorithm. But, the good side may be that it will be possible to get almost any frequency ratio. Or, this may be a cover problem: a subset of FIX frequencies may result in complete coverege of all possible frequency ratios. I'll check into it tonight. FWIW - The TZ really is a beast. In addition to it being FM, there are those extra waveforms, making it tough to master. But, I don't think anyone doubts that it has all kinds of potential. I feel that if the thing can be mastered, the results will make the presets look pretty lame and the sounds will rival the best stuff out there, i.e.; I won't be as tempted to pick up a D-50 or a sampler or anything else that happens to come along. I sometimes get the feeling that we get so interested in the new hardware that we don't take the time to realize much of the potential of the current stuff. Steve Steve | |||||
993.7 | There should be an algorithm. | MAY14::BAILEY | Steph Bailey | Tue Oct 27 1987 17:13 | 23 |
re: .-1 You got it. The biggest problem with the yamaha stuff is the damned inaccessability of all the parameters (the TZ must be at least three orders of magnitude worse in this respect than the DX7) Is there any method to that huge frequency chart's madness? The DX7 has coarse and fine frequency adjustments. When in ratio mode, the fine adds increments of .01 times the coarse value. So if your coarse frequency is set to 1.0, then each increment of the fine frequency adds .1 to the frequency. It works the same for fixed operators. If your coarse frequency is 100.0Hz, then each increment adds 1Hz. There has got to be an algorithm for the TZ, because it would be a waste of memory (not to mention programming effort) to have a table of all those values! (Of course, I've been wrong before) Steph | |||||
993.8 | Steph you're right!! | PLAYA::MERLIN | Have you read about uVAX 3000? | Tue Oct 27 1987 19:23 | 13 |
I recieved a Yamaha technical paper that explains the relation between coarse freq. step and fine freq. step. I don't know much about the TZ but I will write some data from the paper if you want to. It's something about chorus effects and the ear resonances. I passed by .0 and figure out the same thought of Steph... Why not an algorithm? Anyway, have fun extracting then 1100 lines of .0 Orlando | |||||
993.9 | I was wrong about fixed. | ACORN::BAILEY | Steph Bailey | Tue Oct 27 1987 20:50 | 23 |
Actually I'm only half right. The ratioed stuff is correct, but I must have been halucinating pretty bad the day I played with the fixed frequency stuff. Its real algorithm is as follows: f_fixed = 10 ^ f_coarse_index * (1/100) ^ f_fine_index f_coarse_index and f_fine_index are the numeric internal representations of these parameters. That is, the f_coarse on a DX7 has 4 discrete values (1, 10, 100, 1000)> The f_fine has 100 discrete values. I'm sure the TZs is similar (but I'm too lazy to actually check your data). Perhaps the TZ has a different number of internal steps for the fine parameter, in which case the exponential base should be (1/n) where n is the number of steps. I derived the formula based on simple number theory. I dunno about chorusing and psycho-acoustics.... (even though the fields are related). Steph | |||||
993.10 | Now that I have my manual ... | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 20:52 | 43 |
Well, I've diddled with the FIX frequencies and have observed no variations form the chart. If any deviation is observed, I'd appreciate having it pointed out. Looking into my manual, 'scaling' allows setting of rate scaling (basically controls how much higher range notes get faster attack and decay, more like acoustic instruments) and level scaling (controls how much higher range notes get lower sustain values, again to emulate acoustic instruments). Note that this 'scaling' is done for each operator in a voice. As far as the 'other' kind of scale, each voice can have microtuning. There are 11 preset scales and 2 user-programmable. The 11 preset scales are: 1. Equal 2. Pure (major) 3. Pure (minor) 4. Mean tone 5. Pythagorean 6. Werckmeister 7. Kirnberger 8. Vallotti & Young 9. 1/4 Shift Equal 10. 1/4 Tone 11. 1/8 Tone You can use one of these to start and then diddle with the tuning of each note between C#-1 and C7 (the full range of the instrument). The result can then be saved in one of the user-programmable slots. Pretty powerful stuff, but I haven't played with it much, yet. As far as FIX mode goes, after the select frequency is chosen for an operator, CRS steps from a lower to an upper limit in chunks and FIN steps with smaller units. So, it is more intuitive than in RTO mode. There could well be an algorithm, but if I have the chart, I don't need the algorithm to set up a particular ratio. Now... on to tearing apart the presets! Steve | |||||
993.11 | Alright, this time for sure. | MAY14::BAILEY | Steph Bailey | Wed Oct 28 1987 08:35 | 14 |
I bungled it again. (I must have been falling asleep): f_fixed = 10 ^ (f_coarse_index + (f_fine_index/100)) f_coarse_index = 0-3 f_fine_index = 0-99. You want a formula because you are going to write a patch editor for your favorite computer, and you don't want to type all that stuff in. (Still, I'm impressed.) Steph | |||||
993.12 | BARNUM::RHODES | Wed Oct 28 1987 18:09 | 8 | ||
Geez, now if we could just figure out the FM math behind operator four's feedback capabilities. If we had this, I could model an entire 4-op patch at any given point in time, and plot the waveform accordingly. You every seen operator 4's output on a scope with the feedback cranked up to 7? Yuck! Todd. | |||||
993.13 | I think it's all done with tables | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | depleted uranium speaker cabinets? | Thu Oct 29 1987 11:12 | 5 |
Yeah, it gets very bushy. I think what's happening is that it starts wrapping around the FM sine table and therefore starts jumping. I learned a lot just playing with the DX100 and a scope. |