| Title: | * * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * * |
| Notice: | Conference has been write-locked. Use new version. |
| Moderator: | DYPSS1::SCHAFER |
| Created: | Thu Feb 20 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Aug 29 1994 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 2852 |
| Total number of notes: | 33157 |
The following charts were taken off my TX81Z and are more 'complete' charts than what's in note 819. Mostly, I found myself trying to get a particular frequency ratio and couldn't get exactly what I wanted very easily. So, I made the charts. Using either chart, the way to get the ratio you want is to decrement the coarse and fine adjustments down to 0.50 (hold the decrement down for a few seconds), then add the number of button pushes in coarse and fine to get to the desired ratio. This first chart is a 2-d array by increasing coarse (CRS) and fine (FIN) adjustments. The second is separated from the first by a line of *'s, so do a search for * to get to the second chart. The second chart has the same information as the first, but it is sorted by ascending ratio (RTO). The second chart will probably be most useful if working from scratch. CRS FIN-> | v 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 0.50 0.56 0.62 0.68 0.75 0.81 0.87 0.93 - - - - - - - - 1 0.71 0.79 0.88 0.96 1.05 1.14 1.23 1.32 - - - - - - - - 2 0.78 0.88 0.98 1.07 1.17 1.27 1.37 1.47 - - - - - - - - 3 0.87 0.97 1.08 1.18 1.29 1.40 1.51 1.62 - - - - - - - - 4 1.00 1.06 1.12 1.18 1.25 1.31 1.37 1.43 1.50 1.56 1.62 1.68 1.75 1.81 1.87 1.93 5 1.41 1.49 1.58 1.67 1.76 1.85 1.93 2.02 2.11 2.20 2.29 2.37 2.46 2.55 2.64 2.73 6 1.57 1.66 1.76 1.86 1.96 2.06 2.15 2.25 2.35 2.45 2.55 2.64 2.74 2.84 2.94 3.04 7 1.73 1.83 1.94 2.05 2.16 2.27 2.37 2.48 2.59 2.70 2.81 2.91 3.02 3.13 3.24 3.35 8 2.00 2.06 2.12 2.18 2.25 2.31 2.37 2.43 2.50 2.56 2.62 2.68 2.75 2.81 2.87 2.93 9 2.82 2.90 2.99 3.08 3.17 3.26 3.34 3.43 3.52 3.61 3.70 3.78 3.87 3.96 4.05 4.14 10 3.00 3.06 3.12 3.18 3.25 3.31 3.37 3.43 3.50 3.56 3.62 3.68 3.75 3.81 3.87 3.93 11 3.14 3.23 3.33 3.43 3.53 3.63 3.72 3.82 3.92 4.02 4.12 4.21 4.31 4.41 4.51 4.61 12 3.46 3.56 3.67 3.78 3.89 4.00 4.10 4.21 4.32 4.43 4.54 4.64 4.75 4.86 4.97 5.08 13 4.00 4.06 4.12 4.18 4.25 4.31 4.37 4.43 4.50 4.56 4.62 4.68 4.75 4.81 4.87 4.93 14 4.24 4.31 4.40 4.49 4.58 4.67 4.75 4.84 4.93 5.02 5.11 5.19 5.28 5.37 5.46 5.55 15 4.71 4.80 4.90 5.00 5.10 5.20 5.29 5.39 5.49 5.59 5.69 5.78 5.88 5.98 6.08 6.18 16 5.00 5.06 5.12 5.18 5.25 5.31 5.37 5.43 5.50 5.56 5.62 5.68 5.75 5.81 5.87 5.93 17 5.19 5.29 5.40 5.51 5.62 5.73 5.83 5.94 6.05 6.16 6.27 6.37 6.48 6.59 6.70 6.81 18 5.65 5.72 5.81 5.90 5.99 6.08 6.16 6.25 6.34 6.43 6.52 6.60 6.69 6.78 6.87 6.96 19 6.00 6.06 6.12 6.18 6.25 6.31 6.37 6.43 6.50 6.56 6.62 6.68 6.75 6.81 6.87 6.93 20 6.28 6.37 6.47 6.57 6.67 6.77 6.86 6.96 7.06 7.16 7.26 7.35 7.45 7.55 7.65 7.75 21 6.92 7.02 7.13 7.24 7.35 7.46 7.56 7.67 7.78 7.89 8.00 8.10 8.21 8.32 8.43 8.54 22 7.00 7.06 7.12 7.18 7.25 7.31 7.37 7.43 7.50 7.56 7.62 7.68 7.75 7.81 7.87 7.93 23 7.07 7.13 7.22 7.31 7.40 7.49 7.57 7.66 7.75 7.84 7.93 8.01 8.10 8.19 8.28 8.37 24 7.85 7.94 8.04 8.14 8.24 8.34 8.43 8.53 8.63 8.73 8.83 8.92 9.02 9.12 9.22 9.32 25 8.00 8.06 8.12 8.18 8.25 8.31 8.37 8.43 8.50 8.56 8.62 8.68 8.75 8.81 8.87 8.93 26 8.48 8.54 8.63 8.72 8.81 8.90 8.98 9.07 9.16 9.25 9.34 9.42 9.51 9.60 9.69 9.78 27 8.65 8.75 8.86 8.97 9.08 9.19 9.29 9.40 9.51 9.62 9.73 9.83 9.94 10.05 10.16 10.27 28 9.00 9.06 9.12 9.18 9.25 9.31 9.37 9.43 9.50 9.56 9.62 9.68 9.75 9.81 9.87 9.93 29 9.42 9.51 9.61 9.71 9.81 9.91 10.00 10.10 10.20 10.30 10.40 10.49 10.59 10.69 10.79 10.89 30 9.89 9.95 10.04 10.13 10.22 10.31 10.39 10.48 10.57 10.66 10.75 10.83 10.92 11.01 11.10 11.19 31 10.00 10.06 10.12 10.18 10.25 10.31 10.37 10.43 10.50 10.56 10.62 10.68 10.75 10.81 10.87 10.93 32 10.38 10.48 10.59 10.70 10.81 10.92 11.02 11.13 11.24 11.35 11.45 11,56 11.67 11.78 11.89 12.00 33 10.99 11.08 11.18 11.28 11.38 11.48 11.57 11.67 11.77 11.87 11.97 12.06 12.16 12.26 12.36 12.46 34 11.00 11.06 11.12 11.18 11.25 11.31 11.37 11.43 11.50 11.56 11.62 11.68 11.75 11.81 11.87 11.93 35 11.30 11.36 11.45 11.54 11.63 11.72 11.80 11.89 11.98 12.07 12.16 12.24 12.33 12.42 12.51 12.60 36 12.00 12.06 12.12 12.18 12.25 12.31 12.37 12.43 12.50 12.56 12.62 12.68 12.75 12.81 12.87 12.93 37 12.11 12.21 12.32 12.43 12.54 12.65 12.75 12.86 12.97 13.08 13.19 13.29 13.40 13.51 13.62 13.73 38 12.56 12.65 12.75 12.85 12.95 13.05 13.14 13.24 13.34 13.44 13.54 13.63 13.73 13.83 13.93 14.03 39 12.72 12.77 12.86 12.95 13.04 13.13 13.21 13.30 13.39 13.48 13.57 13.65 13.74 13.83 13.92 14.01 40 13.00 13.06 13.12 13.18 13.25 13.31 13.37 13.43 13.50 13.56 13.62 13.68 13.75 13.81 13.87 13.93 41 13.84 13.94 14.05 14.16 14.27 14.38 14.48 14.59 14.70 14.81 14.92 15.02 15.13 15.24 15.35 15.46 42 14.00 14.06 14.12 14.18 14.25 14.31 14.37 14.43 14.50 14.56 14.62 14.68 14.75 14.81 14.87 14.93 43 14.10 14.18 14.27 14.36 14.45 14.54 14.62 14.71 14.80 14.89 14.98 15.06 15.15 15.24 15.33 15.42 44 14.13 14.22 14.32 14.42 14.52 14.62 14.71 14.81 14.91 15.01 15.11 15.20 15.30 15.40 15.50 15.60 45 15.00 15.06 15.12 15.18 15.25 15.31 15.37 15.43 15.50 15.56 15.62 15.68 15.75 15.81 15.87 15.93 46 15.55 15.59 15.68 15.77 15.86 15.95 16.03 16.12 16.21 16.30 16.39 16.47 16.56 16.65 16.74 16.83 47 15.57 15.67 15.78 15.89 16.00 16.11 16.21 16.32 16.43 16.54 16.65 16.75 16.86 16.97 17.08 17.19 48 15.70 15.79 15.89 15.99 16.09 16.19 16.28 16.38 16.48 16.58 16.68 16.77 16.87 16.97 17.07 17.17 49 16.96 17.00 17.09 17.18 17.27 17.36 17.44 17.53 17.62 17.71 17.80 17.88 17.97 18.06 18.15 18.24 50 17.27 17.36 17.46 17.56 17.66 17.76 17.85 17.95 18.05 18.15 18.25 18.34 18.44 18.54 18.64 18.74 51 17.30 17.40 17.51 17.62 17.73 17.84 17.94 18.05 18.16 18.27 18.38 18.48 18.59 18.70 18.81 18.92 52 18.37 18.41 18.50 18.59 18.68 18.77 18.85 18.94 19.03 19.12 19.21 19.29 19.38 19.47 19.56 19.65 53 18.84 18.93 19.03 19.13 19.23 19.33 19.42 19.52 19.62 19.72 19.82 19.91 20.01 20.11 20.21 20.31 54 19.03 19.13 19.24 19.35 19.46 19.57 19.67 19.78 19.89 20.00 20.11 20.21 20.32 20.43 20.54 20.65 55 19.78 19.82 19.91 20.00 20.09 20.18 20.26 20.35 20.44 20.53 20.62 20.70 20.79 20.88 20.97 21.06 56 20.41 20.50 20.60 20.70 20.80 20.90 20.99 21.09 21.19 21.29 21.39 21.48 21.58 21.68 21.78 21.88 57 20.76 20.86 20.97 21.08 21.19 21.30 21.40 21.51 21.62 21.73 21.84 21.94 22.05 22.16 22.27 22.38 58 21.20 21.23 21.32 21.41 21.50 21.59 21.67 21.76 21.85 21.94 22.03 22.11 22.20 22.29 22.38 22.47 59 21.98 22.07 22.17 22.27 22.37 22.47 22.56 22.66 22.76 22.86 22.96 23.05 23.15 23.25 23.35 23.45 60 22.49 22.59 22.70 22.81 22.92 23.03 23.13 23.24 23.35 23.46 23.57 23.67 23.78 23.89 24.00 24.11 61 23.55 23.64 23.74 23.84 23.94 24.04 24.13 24.23 24.33 24.43 24.53 24.62 24.72 24.82 24.92 25.02 62 24.22 24.32 24.43 24.54 24.65 24.76 24.86 24.97 25.08 25.19 25.30 25.40 25.51 25.62 25.73 25.84 63 25.95 26.05 26.16 26.27 26.38 26.49 26.59 26.70 26.81 26.92 27.03 27.13 27.24 27.35 27.46 27.57 ******************************************************************************** RTO CRS FIN 0.50 0 0 0.56 0 1 0.62 0 2 0.68 0 3 0.71 1 0 0.75 0 4 0.78 2 0 0.79 1 1 0.81 0 5 0.87 0 6 0.87 3 0 0.88 1 2 0.88 2 1 0.93 0 7 0.96 1 3 0.97 3 1 0.98 2 2 1.00 4 0 1.05 1 4 1.06 4 1 1.07 2 3 1.08 3 2 1.12 4 2 1.14 1 5 1.17 2 4 1.18 3 3 1.18 4 3 1.23 1 6 1.25 4 4 1.27 2 5 1.29 3 4 1.31 4 5 1.32 1 7 1.37 2 6 1.37 4 6 1.40 3 5 1.41 5 0 1.43 4 7 1.47 2 7 1.49 5 1 1.50 4 8 1.51 3 6 1.56 4 9 1.57 6 0 1.58 5 2 1.62 3 7 1.62 4 10 1.66 6 1 1.67 5 3 1.68 4 11 1.73 7 0 1.75 4 12 1.76 5 4 1.76 6 2 1.81 4 13 1.83 7 1 1.85 5 5 1.86 6 3 1.87 4 14 1.93 4 15 1.93 5 6 1.94 7 2 1.96 6 4 10.00 29 6 10.00 31 0 10.04 30 2 10.05 27 13 10.06 31 1 10.10 29 7 10.12 31 2 10.13 30 3 10.16 27 14 10.18 31 3 10.20 29 8 10.22 30 4 10.25 31 4 10.27 27 15 10.30 29 9 10.31 30 5 10.31 31 5 10.37 31 6 10.38 32 0 10.39 30 6 10.40 29 10 10.43 31 7 10.48 30 7 10.48 32 1 10.49 29 11 10.50 31 8 10.56 31 9 10.57 30 8 10.59 29 12 10.59 32 2 10.62 31 10 10.66 30 9 10.68 31 11 10.69 29 13 10.70 32 3 10.75 30 10 10.75 31 12 10.79 29 14 10.81 31 13 10.81 32 4 10.83 30 11 10.87 31 14 10.89 29 15 10.92 30 12 10.92 32 5 10.93 31 15 10.99 33 0 11,56 32 11 11.00 34 0 11.01 30 13 11.02 32 6 11.06 34 1 11.08 33 1 11.10 30 14 11.12 34 2 11.13 32 7 11.18 33 2 11.18 34 3 11.19 30 15 11.24 32 8 11.25 34 4 11.28 33 3 11.30 35 0 11.31 34 5 11.35 32 9 11.36 35 1 11.37 34 6 11.38 33 4 11.43 34 7 11.45 32 10 11.45 35 2 11.48 33 5 11.50 34 8 11.54 35 3 11.56 34 9 11.57 33 6 11.62 34 10 11.63 35 4 11.67 32 12 11.67 33 7 11.68 34 11 11.72 35 5 11.75 34 12 11.77 33 8 11.78 32 13 11.80 35 6 11.81 34 13 11.87 33 9 11.87 34 14 11.89 32 14 11.89 35 7 11.93 34 15 11.97 33 10 11.98 35 8 12.00 32 15 12.00 36 0 12.06 33 11 12.06 36 1 12.07 35 9 12.11 37 0 12.12 36 2 12.16 33 12 12.16 35 10 12.18 36 3 12.21 37 1 12.24 35 11 12.25 36 4 12.26 33 13 12.31 36 5 12.32 37 2 12.33 35 12 12.36 33 14 12.37 36 6 12.42 35 13 12.43 36 7 12.43 37 3 12.46 33 15 12.50 36 8 12.51 35 14 12.54 37 4 12.56 36 9 12.56 38 0 12.60 35 15 12.62 36 10 12.65 37 5 12.65 38 1 12.68 36 11 12.72 39 0 12.75 36 12 12.75 37 6 12.75 38 2 12.77 39 1 12.81 36 13 12.85 38 3 12.86 37 7 12.86 39 2 12.87 36 14 12.93 36 15 12.95 38 4 12.95 39 3 12.97 37 8 13.00 40 0 13.04 39 4 13.05 38 5 13.06 40 1 13.08 37 9 13.12 40 2 13.13 39 5 13.14 38 6 13.18 40 3 13.19 37 10 13.21 39 6 13.24 38 7 13.25 40 4 13.29 37 11 13.30 39 7 13.31 40 5 13.34 38 8 13.37 40 6 13.39 39 8 13.40 37 12 13.43 40 7 13.44 38 9 13.48 39 9 13.50 40 8 13.51 37 13 13.54 38 10 13.56 40 9 13.57 39 10 13.62 37 14 13.62 40 10 13.63 38 11 13.65 39 11 13.68 40 11 13.73 37 15 13.73 38 12 13.74 39 12 13.75 40 12 13.81 40 13 13.83 38 13 13.83 39 13 13.84 41 0 13.87 40 14 13.92 39 14 13.93 38 14 13.93 40 15 13.94 41 1 14.00 42 0 14.01 39 15 14.03 38 15 14.05 41 2 14.06 42 1 14.10 43 0 14.12 42 2 14.13 44 0 14.16 41 3 14.18 42 3 14.18 43 1 14.22 44 1 14.25 42 4 14.27 41 4 14.27 43 2 14.31 42 5 14.32 44 2 14.36 43 3 14.37 42 6 14.38 41 5 14.42 44 3 14.43 42 7 14.45 43 4 14.48 41 6 14.50 42 8 14.52 44 4 14.54 43 5 14.56 42 9 14.59 41 7 14.62 42 10 14.62 43 6 14.62 44 5 14.68 42 11 14.70 41 8 14.71 43 7 14.71 44 6 14.75 42 12 14.80 43 8 14.81 41 9 14.81 42 13 14.81 44 7 14.87 42 14 14.89 43 9 14.91 44 8 14.92 41 10 14.93 42 15 14.98 43 10 15.00 45 0 15.01 44 9 15.02 41 11 15.06 43 11 15.06 45 1 15.11 44 10 15.12 45 2 15.13 41 12 15.15 43 12 15.18 45 3 15.20 44 11 15.24 41 13 15.24 43 13 15.25 45 4 15.30 44 12 15.31 45 5 15.33 43 14 15.35 41 14 15.37 45 6 15.40 44 13 15.42 43 15 15.43 45 7 15.46 41 15 15.50 44 14 15.50 45 8 15.55 46 0 15.56 45 9 15.57 47 0 15.59 46 1 15.60 44 15 15.62 45 10 15.67 47 1 15.68 45 11 15.68 46 2 15.70 48 0 15.75 45 12 15.77 46 3 15.78 47 2 15.79 48 1 15.81 45 13 15.86 46 4 15.87 45 14 15.89 47 3 15.89 48 2 15.93 45 15 15.95 46 5 15.99 48 3 16.00 47 4 16.03 46 6 16.09 48 4 16.11 47 5 16.12 46 7 16.19 48 5 16.21 46 8 16.21 47 6 16.28 48 6 16.30 46 9 16.32 47 7 16.38 48 7 16.39 46 10 16.43 47 8 16.47 46 11 16.48 48 8 16.54 47 9 16.56 46 12 16.58 48 9 16.65 46 13 16.65 47 10 16.68 48 10 16.74 46 14 16.75 47 11 16.77 48 11 16.83 46 15 16.86 47 12 16.87 48 12 16.96 49 0 16.97 47 13 16.97 48 13 17.00 49 1 17.07 48 14 17.08 47 14 17.09 49 2 17.17 48 15 17.18 49 3 17.19 47 15 17.27 49 4 17.27 50 0 17.30 51 0 17.36 49 5 17.36 50 1 17.40 51 1 17.44 49 6 17.46 50 2 17.51 51 2 17.53 49 7 17.56 50 3 17.62 49 8 17.62 51 3 17.66 50 4 17.71 49 9 17.73 51 4 17.76 50 5 17.80 49 10 17.84 51 5 17.85 50 6 17.88 49 11 17.94 51 6 17.95 50 7 17.97 49 12 18.05 50 8 18.05 51 7 18.06 49 13 18.15 49 14 18.15 50 9 18.16 51 8 18.24 49 15 18.25 50 10 18.27 51 9 18.34 50 11 18.37 52 0 18.38 51 10 18.41 52 1 18.44 50 12 18.48 51 11 18.50 52 2 18.54 50 13 18.59 51 12 18.59 52 3 18.64 50 14 18.68 52 4 18.70 51 13 18.74 50 15 18.77 52 5 18.81 51 14 18.84 53 0 18.85 52 6 18.92 51 15 18.93 53 1 18.94 52 7 19.03 52 8 19.03 53 2 19.03 54 0 19.12 52 9 19.13 53 3 19.13 54 1 19.21 52 10 19.23 53 4 19.24 54 2 19.29 52 11 19.33 53 5 19.35 54 3 19.38 52 12 19.42 53 6 19.46 54 4 19.47 52 13 19.52 53 7 19.56 52 14 19.57 54 5 19.62 53 8 19.65 52 15 19.67 54 6 19.72 53 9 19.78 54 7 19.78 55 0 19.82 53 10 19.82 55 1 19.89 54 8 19.91 53 11 19.91 55 2 2.00 8 0 2.02 5 7 2.05 7 3 2.06 6 5 2.06 8 1 2.11 5 8 2.12 8 2 2.15 6 6 2.16 7 4 2.18 8 3 2.20 5 9 2.25 6 7 2.25 8 4 2.27 7 5 2.29 5 10 2.31 8 5 2.35 6 8 2.37 5 11 2.37 7 6 2.37 8 6 2.43 8 7 2.45 6 9 2.46 5 12 2.48 7 7 2.50 8 8 2.55 5 13 2.55 6 10 2.56 8 9 2.59 7 8 2.62 8 10 2.64 5 14 2.64 6 11 2.68 8 11 2.70 7 9 2.73 5 15 2.74 6 12 2.75 8 12 2.81 7 10 2.81 8 13 2.82 9 0 2.84 6 13 2.87 8 14 2.90 9 1 2.91 7 11 2.93 8 15 2.94 6 14 2.99 9 2 20.00 54 9 20.00 55 3 20.01 53 12 20.09 55 4 20.11 53 13 20.11 54 10 20.18 55 5 20.21 53 14 20.21 54 11 20.26 55 6 20.31 53 15 20.32 54 12 20.35 55 7 20.41 56 0 20.43 54 13 20.44 55 8 20.50 56 1 20.53 55 9 20.54 54 14 20.60 56 2 20.62 55 10 20.65 54 15 20.70 55 11 20.70 56 3 20.76 57 0 20.79 55 12 20.80 56 4 20.86 57 1 20.88 55 13 20.90 56 5 20.97 55 14 20.97 57 2 20.99 56 6 21.06 55 15 21.08 57 3 21.09 56 7 21.19 56 8 21.19 57 4 21.20 58 0 21.23 58 1 21.29 56 9 21.30 57 5 21.32 58 2 21.39 56 10 21.40 57 6 21.41 58 3 21.48 56 11 21.50 58 4 21.51 57 7 21.58 56 12 21.59 58 5 21.62 57 8 21.67 58 6 21.68 56 13 21.73 57 9 21.76 58 7 21.78 56 14 21.84 57 10 21.85 58 8 21.88 56 15 21.94 57 11 21.94 58 9 21.98 59 0 22.03 58 10 22.05 57 12 22.07 59 1 22.11 58 11 22.16 57 13 22.17 59 2 22.20 58 12 22.27 57 14 22.27 59 3 22.29 58 13 22.37 59 4 22.38 57 15 22.38 58 14 22.47 58 15 22.47 59 5 22.49 60 0 22.56 59 6 22.59 60 1 22.66 59 7 22.70 60 2 22.76 59 8 22.81 60 3 22.86 59 9 22.92 60 4 22.96 59 10 23.03 60 5 23.05 59 11 23.13 60 6 23.15 59 12 23.24 60 7 23.25 59 13 23.35 59 14 23.35 60 8 23.45 59 15 23.46 60 9 23.55 61 0 23.57 60 10 23.64 61 1 23.67 60 11 23.74 61 2 23.78 60 12 23.84 61 3 23.89 60 13 23.94 61 4 24.00 60 14 24.04 61 5 24.11 60 15 24.13 61 6 24.22 62 0 24.23 61 7 24.32 62 1 24.33 61 8 24.43 61 9 24.43 62 2 24.53 61 10 24.54 62 3 24.62 61 11 24.65 62 4 24.72 61 12 24.76 62 5 24.82 61 13 24.86 62 6 24.92 61 14 24.97 62 7 25.02 61 15 25.08 62 8 25.19 62 9 25.30 62 10 25.40 62 11 25.51 62 12 25.62 62 13 25.73 62 14 25.84 62 15 25.95 63 0 26.05 63 1 26.16 63 2 26.27 63 3 26.38 63 4 26.49 63 5 26.59 63 6 26.70 63 7 26.81 63 8 26.92 63 9 27.03 63 10 27.13 63 11 27.24 63 12 27.35 63 13 27.46 63 14 27.57 63 15 3.00 10 0 3.02 7 12 3.04 6 15 3.06 10 1 3.08 9 3 3.12 10 2 3.13 7 13 3.14 11 0 3.17 9 4 3.18 10 3 3.23 11 1 3.24 7 14 3.25 10 4 3.26 9 5 3.31 10 5 3.33 11 2 3.34 9 6 3.35 7 15 3.37 10 6 3.43 10 7 3.43 11 3 3.43 9 7 3.46 12 0 3.50 10 8 3.52 9 8 3.53 11 4 3.56 10 9 3.56 12 1 3.61 9 9 3.62 10 10 3.63 11 5 3.67 12 2 3.68 10 11 3.70 9 10 3.72 11 6 3.75 10 12 3.78 12 3 3.78 9 11 3.81 10 13 3.82 11 7 3.87 10 14 3.87 9 12 3.89 12 4 3.92 11 8 3.93 10 15 3.96 9 13 4.00 12 5 4.00 13 0 4.02 11 9 4.05 9 14 4.06 13 1 4.10 12 6 4.12 11 10 4.12 13 2 4.14 9 15 4.18 13 3 4.21 11 11 4.21 12 7 4.24 14 0 4.25 13 4 4.31 11 12 4.31 13 5 4.31 14 1 4.32 12 8 4.37 13 6 4.40 14 2 4.41 11 13 4.43 12 9 4.43 13 7 4.49 14 3 4.50 13 8 4.51 11 14 4.54 12 10 4.56 13 9 4.58 14 4 4.61 11 15 4.62 13 10 4.64 12 11 4.67 14 5 4.68 13 11 4.71 15 0 4.75 12 12 4.75 13 12 4.75 14 6 4.80 15 1 4.81 13 13 4.84 14 7 4.86 12 13 4.87 13 14 4.90 15 2 4.93 13 15 4.93 14 8 4.97 12 14 5.00 15 3 5.00 16 0 5.02 14 9 5.06 16 1 5.08 12 15 5.10 15 4 5.11 14 10 5.12 16 2 5.18 16 3 5.19 14 11 5.19 17 0 5.20 15 5 5.25 16 4 5.28 14 12 5.29 15 6 5.29 17 1 5.31 16 5 5.37 14 13 5.37 16 6 5.39 15 7 5.40 17 2 5.43 16 7 5.46 14 14 5.49 15 8 5.50 16 8 5.51 17 3 5.55 14 15 5.56 16 9 5.59 15 9 5.62 16 10 5.62 17 4 5.65 18 0 5.68 16 11 5.69 15 10 5.72 18 1 5.73 17 5 5.75 16 12 5.78 15 11 5.81 16 13 5.81 18 2 5.83 17 6 5.87 16 14 5.88 15 12 5.90 18 3 5.93 16 15 5.94 17 7 5.98 15 13 5.99 18 4 6.00 19 0 6.05 17 8 6.06 19 1 6.08 15 14 6.08 18 5 6.12 19 2 6.16 17 9 6.16 18 6 6.18 15 15 6.18 19 3 6.25 18 7 6.25 19 4 6.27 17 10 6.28 20 0 6.31 19 5 6.34 18 8 6.37 17 11 6.37 19 6 6.37 20 1 6.43 18 9 6.43 19 7 6.47 20 2 6.48 17 12 6.50 19 8 6.52 18 10 6.56 19 9 6.57 20 3 6.59 17 13 6.60 18 11 6.62 19 10 6.67 20 4 6.68 19 11 6.69 18 12 6.70 17 14 6.75 19 12 6.77 20 5 6.78 18 13 6.81 17 15 6.81 19 13 6.86 20 6 6.87 18 14 6.87 19 14 6.92 21 0 6.93 19 15 6.96 18 15 6.96 20 7 7.00 22 0 7.02 21 1 7.06 20 8 7.06 22 1 7.07 23 0 7.12 22 2 7.13 21 2 7.13 23 1 7.16 20 9 7.18 22 3 7.22 23 2 7.24 21 3 7.25 22 4 7.26 20 10 7.31 22 5 7.31 23 3 7.35 20 11 7.35 21 4 7.37 22 6 7.40 23 4 7.43 22 7 7.45 20 12 7.46 21 5 7.49 23 5 7.50 22 8 7.55 20 13 7.56 21 6 7.56 22 9 7.57 23 6 7.62 22 10 7.65 20 14 7.66 23 7 7.67 21 7 7.68 22 11 7.75 20 15 7.75 22 12 7.75 23 8 7.78 21 8 7.81 22 13 7.84 23 9 7.85 24 0 7.87 22 14 7.89 21 9 7.93 22 15 7.93 23 10 7.94 24 1 8.00 21 10 8.00 25 0 8.01 23 11 8.04 24 2 8.06 25 1 8.10 21 11 8.10 23 12 8.12 25 2 8.14 24 3 8.18 25 3 8.19 23 13 8.21 21 12 8.24 24 4 8.25 25 4 8.28 23 14 8.31 25 5 8.32 21 13 8.34 24 5 8.37 23 15 8.37 25 6 8.43 21 14 8.43 24 6 8.43 25 7 8.48 26 0 8.50 25 8 8.53 24 7 8.54 21 15 8.54 26 1 8.56 25 9 8.62 25 10 8.63 24 8 8.63 26 2 8.65 27 0 8.68 25 11 8.72 26 3 8.73 24 9 8.75 25 12 8.75 27 1 8.81 25 13 8.81 26 4 8.83 24 10 8.86 27 2 8.87 25 14 8.90 26 5 8.92 24 11 8.93 25 15 8.97 27 3 8.98 26 6 9.00 28 0 9.02 24 12 9.06 28 1 9.07 26 7 9.08 27 4 9.12 24 13 9.12 28 2 9.16 26 8 9.18 28 3 9.19 27 5 9.22 24 14 9.25 26 9 9.25 28 4 9.29 27 6 9.31 28 5 9.32 24 15 9.34 26 10 9.37 28 6 9.40 27 7 9.42 26 11 9.42 29 0 9.43 28 7 9.50 28 8 9.51 26 12 9.51 27 8 9.51 29 1 9.56 28 9 9.60 26 13 9.61 29 2 9.62 27 9 9.62 28 10 9.68 28 11 9.69 26 14 9.71 29 3 9.73 27 10 9.75 28 12 9.78 26 15 9.81 28 13 9.81 29 4 9.83 27 11 9.87 28 14 9.89 30 0 9.91 29 5 9.93 28 15 9.94 27 12 9.95 30 1
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| 993.1 | That's Fine of Course! | BARNUM::RHODES | Tue Oct 27 1987 08:41 | 6 | |
Geez, I didn't realize that the TZ had this capability. The 4-op DX's only provide for "course" adjustment. The "fine" adjustment must be linked in some way to the "alternate tuning" capabilities of the beast. Todd. | |||||
| 993.2 | Scaling? | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 09:24 | 16 |
Actually, if by 'alternate tuning' you are referring to scaling,
that's a whole 'nuther feature. Has more to do with how the keyboard
input is interpreted and is separately programmable for each voice.
For example, most stuff is octavian scaled, but other scaling is available.
I'm not real familiar with this, yet. It seems to be a feature of
the later Yamaha stuff. I can provide more details if there is interest.
The next thing I plan to do is go through all the voices and figure
out what they are doing to some small extent. For example, I plan
to see about grouping voices by algorithm, frequency ratios and
operator amplitudes. I should be able to develop some general
guidelines for how to generate voice patches from scratch. I
just don't feel right about paying somebody $20+ for patches ...
Naturally, I'll keep you folks posted.
Steve
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| 993.3 | Where's my dictionary note??? | JAWS::COTE | BIM me up, Scotty!!! | Tue Oct 27 1987 10:38 | 34 |
There are some terms being bandied about here that are bound to
cause some confusion....
The CRS and FIN parameters on the TZ allow you to set the frequency
of the operator as a function of 440 hz. This is what the DX line
does. The TZ expands on it by use of the FIN parameter, allowing
you to tweak the ratio of any operator. Note that the increments
of fine change size as a function of the coarse setting. A low
(say, 1.00) CRS setting allows small adjustments via FIN. As the
CRS frequency increases so does the size of the FIN steps.
Do not confuse the frequency of an operator with the frequency
of a note. They be different beasts.
Scaling is refered to by Yamaha as the ability to vary the output
of an operator as a function of what note is played. This is used
to simulate the differences in timbre an instrument displays at
opposing ends of it's range. It has nothing to do with common or
alternative tunings.
The alternative tuning function of the TZ defines what frequency
a key will produce when pressed. The equal-tempered tuning we all
know and love divides 1200 cents (1 octave) into 12 equal steps
of 100 cents each. The alternative tuning allows you to define
these steps to any size you want. They do not have to be equal.
For example, I've taken an octave and defined each key to be
1/12 of the distance between it and a reference key....
Sounds horrible, but I can do it....
Edd
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| 993.4 | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 10:49 | 22 | |
Yeah, there may be some confusion in terms. I'm trying to follow
Yamaha's definitions. The CRS and FIN adjustments for the TZ
are in either FIX or RTO mode for each operator. In FIX you get control
over a fixed frequency, and with RTO the control is based on frequency
that can be varied from the keyboard (based on the 440 Hz A). Turns
out that even this can be diddled with using detune, master tune
and transpose settings.
By selecting FIX mode, you can pick one frequency for an operator
and adjust it using CRS and FIN. The manual shows that in this
mode the CRS and FIN tend to operate a bit more intuitively than
in RTO mode. For that reason, I haven't done any charting with
operators in FIX mode.
I don't remember offhand what all is included in the set of
adjustments that Yamaha refers to as 'scaling'. But, there is a
'scale' control for the voice patch, the default being octavian.
I haven't played with this much, yet.
Hey, all my stuff is at home ...
Steve
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| 993.5 | ^Z Dammit!!! | JAWS::COTE | BIM me up, Scotty!!! | Tue Oct 27 1987 11:07 | 13 |
The scaling parameters are 'rate' and 'level'.
I did some diddling with FIX and RTO over the weekend. They may
not be as mutually exclusive as we suspect. Setting the FIX RANGE
seems to have an effect on what RTO values are available. More
on this as I figure it out.
Aren't the alternative tuning parameters refered to as MICROTUNE?
What a beast to work with. The DX-21 programmer module makes it
*almost* bearable....;^)
Edd
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| 993.6 | the beast | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 13:25 | 25 |
Hmmm. I'll have to check on that idea about the RTO values changing
with the FIX frequency. The values in this chart were calculated
with FIX frequency set to 255 Hz. If they change with the FIX
frequency, I may need to generate more charts >:(. Too bad I can't
just do it via algorithm. But, the good side may be that it will
be possible to get almost any frequency ratio. Or, this may be
a cover problem: a subset of FIX frequencies may result in complete
coverege of all possible frequency ratios. I'll check into it tonight.
FWIW - The TZ really is a beast. In addition to it being FM, there
are those extra waveforms, making it tough to master. But, I don't
think anyone doubts that it has all kinds of potential. I feel that
if the thing can be mastered, the results will make the presets look
pretty lame and the sounds will rival the best stuff out there,
i.e.; I won't be as tempted to pick up a D-50 or a sampler or anything
else that happens to come along. I sometimes get the
feeling that we get so interested in the new hardware that we don't
take the time to realize much of the potential of the current stuff.
Steve
Steve
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| 993.7 | There should be an algorithm. | MAY14::BAILEY | Steph Bailey | Tue Oct 27 1987 17:13 | 23 |
re: .-1 You got it. The biggest problem with the yamaha stuff
is the damned inaccessability of all the parameters (the TZ must
be at least three orders of magnitude worse in this respect than
the DX7)
Is there any method to that huge frequency chart's madness?
The DX7 has coarse and fine frequency adjustments. When in ratio
mode, the fine adds increments of .01 times the coarse value.
So if your coarse frequency is set to 1.0, then each increment of
the fine frequency adds .1 to the frequency.
It works the same for fixed operators. If your coarse frequency
is 100.0Hz, then each increment adds 1Hz.
There has got to be an algorithm for the TZ, because it would be a
waste of memory (not to mention programming effort) to have a table of
all those values! (Of course, I've been wrong before)
Steph
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| 993.8 | Steph you're right!! | PLAYA::MERLIN | Have you read about uVAX 3000? | Tue Oct 27 1987 19:23 | 13 |
I recieved a Yamaha technical paper that explains the relation between
coarse freq. step and fine freq. step. I don't know much about the
TZ but I will write some data from the paper if you want to. It's
something about chorus effects and the ear resonances.
I passed by .0 and figure out the same thought of Steph... Why not
an algorithm?
Anyway, have fun extracting then 1100 lines of .0
Orlando
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| 993.9 | I was wrong about fixed. | ACORN::BAILEY | Steph Bailey | Tue Oct 27 1987 20:50 | 23 |
Actually I'm only half right. The ratioed stuff is correct, but I must
have been halucinating pretty bad the day I played with the fixed
frequency stuff.
Its real algorithm is as follows:
f_fixed = 10 ^ f_coarse_index * (1/100) ^ f_fine_index
f_coarse_index and f_fine_index are the numeric internal
representations of these parameters. That is, the f_coarse on a
DX7 has 4 discrete values (1, 10, 100, 1000)> The f_fine has 100
discrete values.
I'm sure the TZs is similar (but I'm too lazy to actually check
your data). Perhaps the TZ has a different number of internal
steps for the fine parameter, in which case the exponential base
should be (1/n) where n is the number of steps.
I derived the formula based on simple number theory. I dunno about
chorusing and psycho-acoustics.... (even though the fields are
related).
Steph
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| 993.10 | Now that I have my manual ... | ECADSR::SHERMAN | Correct as always, King Friday ... | Tue Oct 27 1987 20:52 | 43 |
Well, I've diddled with the FIX frequencies and have observed no
variations form the chart. If any deviation is observed, I'd
appreciate having it pointed out.
Looking into my manual, 'scaling' allows setting of rate scaling
(basically controls how much higher range notes get faster attack
and decay, more like acoustic instruments) and level scaling (controls
how much higher range notes get lower sustain values, again to emulate
acoustic instruments). Note that this 'scaling' is done for each
operator in a voice.
As far as the 'other' kind of scale, each voice can have microtuning.
There are 11 preset scales and 2 user-programmable. The 11 preset
scales are:
1. Equal
2. Pure (major)
3. Pure (minor)
4. Mean tone
5. Pythagorean
6. Werckmeister
7. Kirnberger
8. Vallotti & Young
9. 1/4 Shift Equal
10. 1/4 Tone
11. 1/8 Tone
You can use one of these to start and then diddle with the tuning
of each note between C#-1 and C7 (the full range of the instrument).
The result can then be saved in one of the user-programmable slots.
Pretty powerful stuff, but I haven't played with it much, yet.
As far as FIX mode goes, after the select frequency is chosen for
an operator, CRS steps from a lower to an upper limit in chunks
and FIN steps with smaller units. So, it is more intuitive than
in RTO mode. There could well be an algorithm, but if I have the
chart, I don't need the algorithm to set up a particular ratio.
Now... on to tearing apart the presets!
Steve
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| 993.11 | Alright, this time for sure. | MAY14::BAILEY | Steph Bailey | Wed Oct 28 1987 08:35 | 14 |
I bungled it again. (I must have been falling asleep):
f_fixed = 10 ^ (f_coarse_index + (f_fine_index/100))
f_coarse_index = 0-3 f_fine_index = 0-99.
You want a formula because you are going to write a patch editor
for your favorite computer, and you don't want to type all that
stuff in. (Still, I'm impressed.)
Steph
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| 993.12 | BARNUM::RHODES | Wed Oct 28 1987 18:09 | 8 | ||
Geez, now if we could just figure out the FM math behind operator four's feedback capabilities. If we had this, I could model an entire 4-op patch at any given point in time, and plot the waveform accordingly. You every seen operator 4's output on a scope with the feedback cranked up to 7? Yuck! Todd. | |||||
| 993.13 | I think it's all done with tables | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | depleted uranium speaker cabinets? | Thu Oct 29 1987 11:12 | 5 |
Yeah, it gets very bushy. I think what's happening is that it starts
wrapping around the FM sine table and therefore starts jumping.
I learned a lot just playing with the DX100 and a scope.
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