Conference napalm::commusic_v1

>>    Price unknown.
  
      i talked the guy down to $500...it was selling for $750.
  
>>    Anybody know more about this thing?  It certainly appears to be the
>>    most powerful Casio board yet outside of the CZ series.
                             
      about all i know is that i bought one...am starting lessons 
      after the christmas season and am wondering if i bit off more
      than i can chew...

      to elaborate...i played piano a LITTLE bit when i was around 5 
      yrs old but haven't played since.  i bought this because i had
      the sudden urge to be playing again :-) ... but seriously, i am
      starting to really like this "new age" music and thought i'd try
      and get in on it.
 
      after flipping thru this notesfile i think i need all the help i 
      can get!  any comments welcome...even if they're negative :-) 

tlr

    If anyone is interested, I bought one a few months ago and can answer
    questions...
    
    	Jim Totton
    	CLT::Totton
    	DTN: 381-2228

    I bought an HT-700 if you have any questions feel free 
    to send mail. KAPRI::CLARY
    
    The HT700 is a far cry from the description of the HT-3000
    but still has a lot of feature for under $260.  
    
    Bob Clary    DTN 256-2219

    The HT3000 has:
    
    Upper tone / Whole keyboard voice :
      20 presets
      20 internal presets/programable
    
    Lower tone / casio chord (yuk) :
      10 presets
      10 internal presets/programable :
    
    PCM custom drummer :
      20 presets
      10 internals
    
    Chord/voice/drum change sequencer
    
    Both upper and lower tones fully programable (DCA, VCF, DCO, chourus)
    
    Casio chord fully programable, (Chord inversions and bass)
    
    Drums fully programable
    
    MIDI: When HT3000 is set to channel n
    
    Upper tone, Voice changes, Modulation,
      Pitch bend                              : o/p channel n
    Lower tone, casio chords                  : o/p channel n+1
    Bass                                      : o/p channel n+2
    Custom drummer                            : o/p channel n+3
    
    The only thing I haven't worked out is that I cannot get the drums
    recorded onto my copy of PRO24.  It should work as the manual says
    you can play the custom drummer through a standard drum machine
    (RZ-1)
    
    Hope this will help clarify things.
    
    Chris

RE: < Note 916.4 by RDGE44::ADAMS >
>                               -< HT3000 info >-
>
>    MIDI: When HT3000 is set to channel n
>    
>    Upper tone, Voice changes, Modulation,
>      Pitch bend                              : o/p channel n
>    Lower tone, casio chords                  : o/p channel n+1
>    Bass                                      : o/p channel n+2
>    Custom drummer                            : o/p channel n+3
>    
>    The only thing I haven't worked out is that I cannot get the drums
>    recorded onto my copy of PRO24.  It should work as the manual says
>    you can play the custom drummer through a standard drum machine
>    (RZ-1)
A friend of mine and I have the same problem with the HT700.  We can't get
drums to play off the sequencer!  Has anyone been able to get this to work?

Dan

I have an HT700 and I have not been able to get the drums to play off
the sequencer either.  The best I have been able to do is have the
sequencer start and sync the stored patterns.

Bob

    
    A friend of mine wants to buy an HT-700 to use as a generic peripheral
    with an Atari ST/CZ-101 system.  He expects to use it as among other
    things, a drum machine.  Has anybody ever doped out the problem
    with having a sequencer drive the drums???
    
    

    I drive drums *exclusively* from the sequencer.  This is so that
    I can get higher velocity and time resolution.  I only use the
    sequencer on the drum machine to hack out the basic drum track.
    Then, I dump it to the sequencer via MIDI and tweek it to add
    sparkle.  This is, by the way, that last part of the composition
    process.  Up to this, I let the drum machine do some pretty stock
    stuff for a piece and let the parts develop.  Then, the drummer at the 
    end can respond better to what everybody else is doing.
    
    Steve

    
    No, no Steve, you're confused...
    
    I was asking if anyone has been able to get the HT-700 drum sounds
    to respond to note-on/offs coming thru the MIDI port....
    
    

    Does the HT documentation specify the MIDI note number to drum
    mapping?  That's all you need.  You could, in desperation, try the
    following experiment - set up a series of 16 sequences that send
    NOTE ON/OFF pairs for every MIDI note number (0 - 127), on each
    MIDI channel (1 - 16).  Then play it into the HT and see what it
    does.  (Putting such a sequence together isn't as much work as it
    sounds if your sequencer is capable of transposing and rechannelizing;
    start with a single bar of 3/4, playing a chromatic scale starting
    on middle C (MIDI note number 60).  Duplicate the bar 10 times, so
    you have 11 bars.  Then transpose each bar suitably (i.e., bar 1
    has to drop 5 octaves, bar 2 down 4 octaves, bar 3 down 3 octaves,
    bar 4 down 2 octaves, bar 5 down 1 octave, bar 6 unchanged, bar 7 up
    1 octave, bar 8 up 2 octaves, etc..  Then copy this sequence 15
    times, and rechannelize each copy to successive MIDI channels.)
    This is a useful sequence to have around as a general purpose
    diagnostic.  Even at a moderate tempo (e.g., 120 bpm) it only takes
    about 4.4 minutes to play the entire sequence, and it will bang every
    possible note/channel combination in your setup.  You can stop it
    and play a section more slowly if it sounds like something interesting
    is happening.
    
    len.
    

    re: .8
    
    Sorry.  Too little sleep lately ...
    
    Steve

                 -< differences between HT-3000 and CT-640 >-


      Could someone tell me the differences between CASIO HT-3000 anc CT-640?

 I am a new comer in this field.  I try to buy a electronic keyboard, then
 connect it to my Apple II GS computer through MIDI interface. 
 Thanks in advance for you help.

RE: .12

The CT640 is a newer series based on PCM technology.  It offers fixed
voices (it is not a synth).  (You can do two-level layering, however.)  
It has virtually no control over the left hand voices.  

Casio has a line of three units in the series that includes the HT3000:
HZ600, HT3000, HT6000.

Quick summary:  they all have 61 keys and are all SD (spectrum dynamics)
synthesizers, which are quite decent in sound.  They have a fair degree of 
control via the wheel-select feature.  MIDI.  All are 8 note poly and have 
chorus effect,  transpose,  pitch bend,  modulation, pitch control.  RAM
card RA-100.

HZ600:  NOT velocity sensitive.  3 fixed split points.  I think there are
20 fixed and 20 internal upper voices, 10 and 10 lower voices.  List $500
but have seen advertized in NYC at about $340.

HT3000:  Similar to HZ600 but with stereo speakers and PCM rhythm.  (see
earlier note.)  Chord/operation memory.  Pattern memory. List  $750.  Have
seen at $450.  Note that the HT700 in the consumer line is  similar to
this unit, except that it has 49 mid sized keys. Recent C.O.M.B. price for
HT700 is $199.

HT6000: Similar to HT3000 but with touch sensitive keys (velocity sensitive 
but no aftertouch).  3 fixed split points.  Somewhat different layout than 
HT3000 and HZ600.  List $1195.  Have seen at $550.  

So to answer your question, the HT3000 is the closest to the CT-640, but
there is *no* comparison regarding flexibility.  (Actually, the CT-630 is
closest to these units, having the splits, SD sound source, and similar 
features but no synth capability.)  On many of the voices, I actually
preferred the 630's SD sound to the built in sounds PCM Casio provides on
the 640.  The 640's piano is good and the pipe organ is not bad either,
but you'd need a few controls (which don't exist) to tame some of the
other voices.  The CT-640 does have a real-time memory.

Now, since this is the HT note, I have a couple of questions:

1. I have heard that having built in speakers *hurts* resale value. True?  

2. Does anyone out there have any experience with the HT6000?  Is it worth 
the extra bucks over the HT3000?

Thanks
Alex