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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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894.0. "Description of Roland's LA Synthesis" by DSSDEV::HALLGRIMSSON (Eir�kur Hallgr�msson) Mon Aug 03 1987 13:10

    Can someone out there with a D50, or at least the documentation,
    tell us something about LA synthesis?
    
    All I know is that the programming model presented to the user is
    supposed to look much like a traditional occillator/filter/amplifier
    system.  So, how does it actually work, and how useful is the programming
    interface?   Can the instrument be programmed to produce sound effects?
    
    I'm a bit skeptical.  The reviews of the new Korg machine that
    "simplifies" FM programming state that the simplified interface
    limits what you can do.  I am kind of excited by looking at the
    D50 programmer, but I must say that even with a bit of a while staring
    at it I couldn't figure out what parameters those sliders control.
    
    	Eirikur
                                      
    
    
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894.1Well, *someone* had to say it!AKOV75::EATONDDeny thyselfMon Aug 03 1987 14:116
RE < Note 894.0 by DSSDEV::HALLGRIMSSON >

                        -< LA synthesis: what *is* it? >-

	I heard rumors about it being something developed out on the west 
coast...
894.2that was MY line!!!!!JAWS::COTEBad Sneakers and a Pina Colada...Mon Aug 03 1987 14:171
    
894.3I have a guess.ACORN::BAILEYSteph BaileyMon Aug 03 1987 18:4429
    Right.  But in all seriousness.  I assume you want a ``what's going
    on inside there?'' description.
    
    As far as I can tell, it seems to be an analog programming idiom
    placed on top of a heap of digital signal processing stuff.  I think
    it has the usual wavetable (hence the ability to use preset samples)
    and then some DSP hardware which is fast enough to do digital filtering
    and scaling.  They are just migrating more and more stuff back into
    the digital domain, and in the LA case, it's all back there.
    
    In Rolands pianos, they call the synthesis ``structured adaptive''
    synthesis, which means that they have a bunch of different wave-forms
    and they slide between them (that's the ``adaptive'' part) in a
    predetermined way (that's the ``structure'') over time.
    
    I think the Linear Adaptive system would, by inference, also end
    up sliding between waves, but it would do it in a purely linear
    manner.  That is, the pianos might would slide from one wave to
    another in a non-linear (eg logrithmic) manner, but the synth can
    only do it linearly.  Also the control functions which select which
    waves to move through could be linear in the synth case and non-linear
    in the piano case.
    
    So probably it calculates several waves for various points in time
    (with various velocities?) and cruises from there.
    
    That's what it smells like to me.
    
    Steph
894.4A pointerPHUBAR::WELLSLeft of CenterWed Aug 05 1987 16:2611
    The latest issue of Music Technology (Laurie "Keyboards are like
    cars" Anderson on the cover) has a general article on wave synthesis,
    describing that most of the recent wave of new synthesis techniques
    (excluding FM and PD) are really just variations on wavetable
    synthesis.  They discuss systems like Korg DW, Roland D, Prophet
    VS and PPG (maybe others, too), and even mention that Kawai K5's
    aren't really quite additive synthesis and have wave synthesis aspects.
    An informative and understandable article.
    
    Richard
    
894.5Get this magazine.DSSDEV::HALLGRIMSSONFor that reason; consequently; hence.Wed Aug 05 1987 16:3713
    re .4: I picked up this issue of Music Technology the other night.
    I strongly second the recommendation of this article.  It looks
    like one of those pointless overviews, but it goes into considerable
    (and informative) depth.  The writer is apparently the architect
    for one of the systems described, (but not plugged!).  I found it
    quiet refreshing after wading through endless marketing hype in
    magazines and dealing with salespeople.  "Architecture, what's an
    architecture?"
    
    But this article doesn't cover the D-50...
    
    	Eirikur
    
894.6Adaptive Arithmetic?DRUMS::FEHSKENSMon Aug 10 1987 15:377
    By the way, it's "linear arithmetic" rather than "linear adaptive"
    synthesis.  I think this just means they do a lot of computing rather
    than analog signal processing.
                                                                         
    
    len.
    
894.7D-50AITG::WELLSLeft of CenterTue Aug 18 1987 18:434
    Reviewed in latest Keyboard.
    
    Richard