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| 880.1 | Reverb | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Dave | Tue Jul 21 1987 14:11 | 20 |
| It's no great secret, but reverb is very important. Especially
the kind of drum machines that most DEC employees can afford typically
are PCM sampled sounds with a limited amount of sampling time
(typically under 1 second).
This limited sampling time is insufficient for cymbals, so the net
effect is that most of the cymbals have a noticeable cutoff. Putting
a good reverb unit (say, the Roland SRV-2000 f'rinstance) tends
to alleviate the problem somewhat and adds a "room" to the sound,
which is what you'd get if you recorded real drums.
My SRV-2000 is what turned my RZ-1 from something that sounded like
a "cha cha box" (which is what I call those early pioneering "drum
machines" that used to come with those organs that practically played
themselves) into a fairly passable method for getting drums on tape.
Nowadays, I find the real problems are due to my deficiencies in
the area of drum programming, rather than any technical problems.
db
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| 880.2 | When in need of answers, look up! | AKOV76::EATOND | Deny thyself | Wed Jul 22 1987 10:40 | 23 |
| Last night, due to some unplanned extra time, I descended to my basement
and proceeded to troubleshoot the 'phased drums' problem. My studio is in one
corner of what was previously a home shop (i.e., table saw, milling machine...).
I have yet to really convert it to suit my needs, installing proper outlets,
lighting and storage shelving. I decided that the only things that could
be affecting the recording were 1) my sound system (don't ask me why, I was
desparate), and 2) the phlorescent lighting.
So, this time, after two hours of sequencing in preparation for
recording the basic track, I reached overhead and pulled the plug on the long
phlorescent tube light and pulled the cord on a nearby incandescent bulb light.
That, indeed, was the problem all along. I know I had been told about
phlorescent lighting and sound reproduction and how they don't live nicely
together, but I had had no other problems with this for quite some time...
Anyway, the saga of the phased drums is solved and I ended up going to
bed last night with a good clean drum track on tape.
Thanks to the droves of experts who flocked to this topic with helpful
hints and advise 8^).
Dan
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| 880.3 | Only Leeches are Phlorescent | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | | Wed Jul 22 1987 11:01 | 13 |
| Uhm, one thing I can help with is "fluorescent".
Hey, if you answer your own questions before we get a chance to
read them, whadiya expect?
Incidentally, I *have* heard a phasing effect in multitracked drums.
It happened when I did 6 tracks of drums against a delayed modulated
sync track - as the same (TR707 "sampled") drum sound was stacked
up over itself with millisecond delays, there was a phasing effect.
The stereo effects were bizarre too.
len.
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| 880.4 | Phorgive me | AKOV76::EATOND | Deny thyself | Wed Jul 22 1987 11:58 | 7 |
| RE < Note 880.3 by DRUMS::FEHSKENS >
> Uhm, one thing I can help with is "fluorescent".
Gee, and I thought I was being intelligent by my carefully spelling.
Dan
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| 880.5 | Phairly Phantastic | JON::ROSS | Network partner excited first try!{pant} | Wed Jul 22 1987 12:34 | 9 |
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HUH?
Flooorecent lights affect sound mix on tape!
Sounds like a headline from the Enquirer...
Commmon......
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| 880.6 | voice of expherience | SALSA::MOELLER | 115�F.,but it's a DRY heat..(thud) | Wed Jul 22 1987 15:10 | 6 |
| Another source for a 'flanged' sound can be where the drum unit
has a stereo output with a phase or delay side-to-side, and then
using a mixer, panning the two outs mono.. the cancellations
can really exaggerate the phase effect, causing instant flange.
karl
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