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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:	* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:	DYPSS1::SCHAFER

Created:	Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:	Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2852
Total number of notes:	33157

805.0. "Roland JX3P Analog Synthesizer" by NAC::PICKETT (David R. Pickett - We Build XItement!) Fri May 15 1987 17:10

    I am considering a used Roland JX-3P. Can someone who has experience
    with this keyboard tell me the pros/cons of this keyboard, and whether
    they would recommend it to someone else?
    
    Thanks
    dp

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
805.1		MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVID		`Mon May 18 1987 08:32`	12
	I recommend it...but.... The midi implementation is far from complete. Unless it has been upgraded it doesn't respond to MIDI velocity inputs. The keyboard is not velocity sensitive. It may not have MIDI at all, the early units didn't. The is no MIDI through on mine. etc. The sequencer is a joke....128 steps....just enough to tease you...and not a flexable sequencer at all. But it sounds nice, is easy to program patches. dave
805.2	Or check out an MKS-30....	JAWS::COTE	This is sick!	`Mon May 18 1987 08:57`	13
	I second the recommendation. The unit I had had MIDI IN and OUT but no through, and (before I had the upgrade done) was OMNI only! (There's a note on this in here somewhere.) The upgrade was cheap, ~$60. It allowed the unit to receive on ch 1 or 3. When you activated the upgrade, the keyboard was disconnected and you could ONLY play via MIDI in. I love the sound though. I'd say a fair price would be in the $500-$600 range. Edd
805.3	I'm sure it's long gone by now...	AKOV88::EATOND	Then the quail came...	`Mon May 18 1987 10:22`	1
	There was one in the WantAds this week for $300.
805.4		SSDEVO::MCCOLLUM		`Tue May 19 1987 14:05`	4
	The optional PG-200 programmer is worth having. I traded my JX-3P with the programmer and a soft case for the equivalent of about $600.
805.5	sync JX-3P to drum machine ?	GIBSON::DICKENS	Distributed System Manglement	`Sun May 31 1987 16:03`	16
	I've been trying to synch up my TR505 to a friend's JX-3P. Apparently the JX's sequencer doesn't send out midi sync, because when I hookd the JX's midi out to the TR's midi in and put the TR in "midi sync" mode, the TR did not start when I started the JX's sequencer. I believe the right way to do this is to connect the TR's midi out the JX's midi in and tell the JX to use the external midi sync. However, we don't have the manual for the JX-3P, so we're sort of hung up. Does anyone have the manual that could photocopy the right pages for me ? Either that or just tell me from memory, if you're that kind of guy... Thanks, my address is: Jeff Dickens - LKG1-2/A19 -Jeff
805.6	Manual won't help...	JAWS::COTE	The Voice Of Reason	`Mon Jun 01 1987 09:43`	9
	Play with the 3-position memory-protect switch on the back of the JX3-P. I forget which position it has to be in, but there aren't alot of guesses, right? You're correct, the JX doesn't send MIDI clock, but will accept it. The manual devotes less than one page to MIDI implementation. This application is not covered. Edd
805.7	How does the programmer talk to the synth?	RANGER::EIRIKUR		`Wed Apr 17 1991 15:31`	10
	Can someone tell me how the PG-200 talks to the JX-3P or MKS-30 module? I'm hoping it's via MIDI. Can you change parameters while a note is sounding? I'm thinking it might be fun to record the sysex into a sequencer to do various things while the sequenced notes are playing. If so, anyone have one to loan me for a brief experiment? I think it will (mostly) control my MKS-7. Eirikur
805.8		DCSVAX::COTE	cat < man \| du	`Wed Apr 17 1991 15:50`	10
	> I'm hoping it's via MIDI... Alas, don't we all. Sorry. >...record the sysex... The JX3-P/MKS-30 doesn't send sysex. The MKS-30 doesn't even have an OUT port. Edd
805.9	No abla midi	OTOA01::ELLACOTT	pancake maverick	`Thu Apr 18 1991 11:29`	5
	The pg-200 is just a bunch of pots and switches accessed through some multiplexers...like -.1 says no midi here FJE
805.10		DCSVAX::COTE	cat < man \| du	`Thu Apr 18 1991 11:36`	4
	I also don't think the changes made either via the panel or the PG200 are audible without re-triggering the note... Edd
805.11		DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID	victim of unix...	`Thu Apr 18 1991 12:34`	6
	re: -.1 Yes they are. You can press and hold a note and change settings to hear how it sounds on my JX3... dbii
805.12	further...	RANGER::EIRIKUR		`Fri Apr 19 1991 00:55`	11
	Ok, muchos gracias. Further question: which, if any, of the PG series programmers DO work via MIDI? I seem to remember that the PG for the D50 does.... Side note, the earlier Roland analog units seem to have a lot of commonality in the sysex. My MKS-7 has a Roland ID in the sysex, and no model ID. I expect that is why I have heard that you can edit it via MIDI from some (which?) of the Junos. Eirikur
805.13	Juno 106 -> MKS7	STOHUB::TRIGG::EATON	In tents	`Fri Apr 19 1991 08:48`	12
	I believe you can program an MKLS7 from a Juno 106. I've studied the two sysex formats and found them nearly identical. Of course, you won't be able to modify the MKS7's velocity settings *(which are mere on/off toggles, btw). Since I have my old MKS7 back now, I plan to try out a Juno 106 editor (PD for the C64) and see if it works. I can let you know once I try it. The alpha junos had a programmer that used the midi port, but alas, the parameters for the alpha junos and MKS50 are not at all like the origianl Juno 106 (and the MKS7). Dan (who is always sending little sysex adjustments to his MKS7)