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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

679.0. "'Air Drums' - Drum Controller" by AKOV68::EATOND (Impressionable Youth) Tue Feb 03 1987 09:16

	I have seen ads in Keyboard for the Air Drum for a while now.  Has
anyone seen, heard, used them?  What did you like/dislike about them.  Are
they practical or just an amusement?

	Just kinda curious.

	Dan
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679.1Standup drumming!BARNUM::RHODESFri Feb 06 1987 08:5619
Keyboard reviewed the airdrums a few issues back.  They also reviewed a
guitar shaped MIDI drum controller (name?) that had pads in a few areas 
along the top and bottom of the "neck", and down on the body as well.  It
was about 6 or 7 hundred bucks if I recall correctly.  Well, this product
got me thinkin'.  Let's see, it's just an electric guitar shaped thingy with
pads on it (probably piezo pads feeding a voltage to MIDI converter).  Why 
can't I just build the guitar/pads part and feed each pad into either my 
Simmons brain, or into a voltage(piezo pad)-to-MIDI converter (which I intend
to own someday if I ever have any spare cash lying around, har har).  After
all, I did build my trusty electric guitar who makes an appearance on the 
Commusic I tape, so this should be a piece of cake.  So, what do I stumble 
across in the old trusty Edmond Scientific catalog but a package of 6 small
piezo transducers that run for a mere $5.95 plus shipping.

Well, I ordered the transducers which will reach me sometime in the next
few months, and when I gett'em I'll enter a reply describing their "Simmons
compatibility"...

Todd.
679.2Slight digression, pardon, pardon.JAWS::COTEFenimehi, kikey bobo! (I'm lying..)Fri Feb 06 1987 09:013
    Hey, could I mount those little pizza-pads on the keys of my sax?
    
    Edd
679.3ouch!BARNUM::RHODESFri Feb 06 1987 09:165
Sure, mount'em on your head.  Like I said earlier, I haven't tried 'em yet
so I'm not sure that you won't need a baseball bat to create enough voltage
to fire the Simmons brain  8v)

Todd.
679.4Chops, As In Judo?DRUMS::FEHSKENSFri Feb 06 1987 10:107
    I recall reading someplace recently about some guy who made a sort
    of drum suit that has all these transducers attached to it so you
    can play by shaking and hitting yourself.  It was MIDI compatible
    of course.
    
    len.
    
679.5Air harpBRAHMS::KLOSTERMANStevie KFri Feb 06 1987 11:038
	I like the guy who uses light beams to control the synth.  I saw it on
some PBS show a year ago.  He uses a grid of beams (infrared or laser, I
guess) to control the synth. Breaking a beam (by waving his hand through the
air) causes an event to happen. I suppose you could use two beams close together
to measure velocity sensitivity. 

	Watching the guy play the thing was great, almost literally air harp. 

679.6Stick it in your air! :-)COROT::CERTOFri Feb 06 1987 13:5519
    I saw some Drum Sticks the other day, made by Casio, that work with
    their synths.  They each have a wire coming out the back that 
    terminates with a stereo mini plug.  They say hit them or just
    shake them.  Price was reasonable too.
    
    RE -1  You can play an instrument just like that, at the Polaroid
    exhibit at Disney World.  Different sounds and pitches are available
    just by waving your hands.  You can play along with the animated
    musicians.
    
    There's also a room, where hexagonal beams of light are projected
    on the floor, step on it and hear a note, (and the light varies
    on/off or in some way I forget).  
    
    Pretty neat stuff!
    
    Fredric_just_a_kid_at_heart_Certo            
    
679.7DECWET::MITCHELLFri Feb 06 1987 16:506
    Who needs an air harp when you have a theremin?
    
    :-)
    
    
    John M.
679.8wanna analog consultant cheep?JON::ROSSEbM9+13/BbFri Feb 06 1987 20:0421
    
    Whats a 'theramin'? Sounds like a multi-vitamin.
    
    Good vibrations. 
    
    Now whatcha *really* want is a suit made outta
    ferroelectric polymer (yes, in mixed company even)
    which is, of course, nothing more than polyvinylidene
    flouride, which "exhibits the largest piezoelectric
    and pyroelectric coefficients when appropriately polarized."
    
    Ok. So I dont know what "pyroelectric" means. (what? starts an
    electical fire!?@#$??) But sounds great for Rock n Roll.
    
    Availible commercially as Kynar(tm) film.
    
    Contact moi for technical details, but aint cheep. too bad...
    
    rr
    
    
679.9MIDI shoes.PILOU::MULELIDMadman across the water.Sun Feb 08 1987 13:408
    The guy that plays with the light beams are probably Jean-Michel
    Jarre who plays the "Laser harp", he used it on the Rendez Vous
    concert in Houston. The guitar shaped drum controller is made by
    Dynacord, but how about this one "MIDI shoes" made by Puma. I saw
    a picture of them once with the midi cable comming out of both heels.
    
    Svein
    
679.10midi throat losengesGNERIC::ROSSwock 'n' woll, wabbit!Mon Feb 09 1987 09:195
    
    Musta been in the April 1 issue of Keyboard?
    
    rr
    
679.11the drum suitEXCELL::SHARPDon Sharp, Digital TelecommunicationsMon Mar 09 1987 16:0519
RE: .4

>    I recall reading someplace recently about some guy who made a sort
>    of drum suit that has all these transducers attached to it so you
>    can play by shaking and hitting yourself.  It was MIDI compatible
>    of course.
    
Laurie Anderson includes a percussion piece for transducerized body in her
movie Home of the Brave, and I also saw her do it live at the Orpheum the
last time she was in Boston. So the suit is reality. I'm not sure how
worthwhile it is, at the Orpheum she was apparently having trouble getting
some of the transducers to fire. I think she had a cymbal under her arm,
bass drum in one of her shoes, snare and high tome in her knees.  

Of course, you realize this is not a new idea: dancers have been
accompanying themselves on hand percussions for centuries, (e.g. castanets &
finger cymbals)

don.