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676.1 | Maybe... | JAWS::COTE | Everything but the bitchin' sync... | Thu Jan 29 1987 08:19 | 4 |
| Possibly a 'gated bass', where the gate opens in time to some other
rythmic device, like a bass drum or high hat....
Edd
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676.2 | chorus? | BARNUM::RHODES | | Thu Jan 29 1987 09:43 | 6 |
| I think many of the bands you mentioned use chorusing on the bass, which
gives it a unique motion that can't be duplicated without an inboard or
outboard chorusing unit...
Todd.
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676.3 | Use a quarter | DYO780::SCHAFER | One of these days, Alice ... | Thu Jan 29 1987 11:11 | 9 |
| Re: .0
A former band wanted me to get the same sound. I worked on it for a
while, then gave the bass player a quarter and a chorus pedal (hello,
Edd!). Used the quarter as a pick.
I never did have to come up with a patch .... (my $.02)
8^)
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676.4 | | JUNIOR::DREHER | Get a 'Jones' in your band | Thu Jan 29 1987 11:22 | 6 |
| I think you should be able to come up with something close if you
have an analog synth with seperate envelopes (ASDR's or equivalent)
for the VCF and VCA. What kind of synth(s) are you trying to duplicate
this patch on?
Dave
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676.5 | Modda modda modda | MINDER::KENT | | Thu Jan 29 1987 11:31 | 7 |
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I'me pretty sure that what you are talking about is a heavily modulated
synth patch. You can get the effect I think you mean by setting
up a square wave vibrato effect on a cz101 patch and just putting it
at the most extreme settings.
Paul.
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676.6 | | RDGE28::NORTON | | Thu Jan 29 1987 11:31 | 8 |
| I'm TRYING to do it on my ESQ1.
The closest I got though was on an old monosynth with a short envelope
and an echoed slapback. I just thought the "pro's" must have some
'better' way of doing it. I've had no success with the ESQ1. I can't
get along with those digital numbers and a single data slider !
Andrew
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676.7 | nah, use an adjustable delay unit | 16514::MOELLER | The future isn't what it used to be. | Thu Jan 29 1987 11:42 | 7 |
| If you've got a regular eighth note bassline (or bass drum, for
that matter) the effect you describe can be gotten using an echo/
delay unit with adjustable repeat speed. Last nite I tried it, and
got everything from magic triplet bass to regular 16th note to a
dotted-eighth 'swing' feel.
karl
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676.8 | my opinion | COROT::CERTO | | Thu Jan 29 1987 13:14 | 22 |
| Donna Summer's "I feel love" synth line that drives the
song, sometimes is a bass line and climbs up an octave or two
during the solo and back down again, is what I assume you refer to.
I think the patch is fairly simple: LFO driven envelope generator
which modulates the filter, fast attack, a touch of decay: kind
of like saying 'ou' as in 'ouch' very quickly. The oscillator has
both a waveform (don't know which) and a sub-octave (probably square
wave) component as well.
The trick is that the output of all the above is hard-panned
alternately left/right, by an LFO square wave with similar but not
the same frequency as the one above.
I suggest you use my favorite trick of taping the record and playing
it back at half speed, which is one octave down (half speed is half
the frequency) and checking it out in stereo.
I hope this is accurate, I figured this out back when the song came
out.
Fredric
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676.9 | Yet Another Opinion Generated | SKYLRK::MESSENGER | Things fall apart-it's scientific | Fri Mar 27 1987 14:42 | 8 |
| Remember, when sequencing bass lines, to play the accent notes
a little sooner than "exactly on the beat" (which is what the sequencer
will do by default). Human bass players will do this by instinct
and won't notice that they're doing it.
There was a fairly good article in "Electronic Musician" about this...
(I think it was called "Adding Life to Your Sequencer")
- HBM
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