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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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665.0. "Roland MKS30 JX3P Patches" by JAWS::COTE (Let's change the rules and giggle!!!) Tue Jan 20 1987 08:49

    I've started this note to trade patches between MKS-30/JX3-P owners.
    
    Please send comments to the author to the replies if you notice
    any typos or downright mistakes, rather than clog the note up with
    lots of garbage'...
    
    Edd
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665.1Fat FifthJAWS::COTELet's change the rules and giggle!!!Tue Jan 20 1987 09:0067
    This one was copied out of the JX3-P. I've listed the JX parameters
    to help get a feel for how they relate to the MKS.    
                                                      
    Edd
    
    *************************************************************************
    
    JX3-P                                                      MKS-30
                                                  
    P   V                DCO Section                            P   V

    A1  A        DCO-1            16',8',4'                     21  A
    A2  A         "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square            22  A
    A3  A         "  Freq-mod     (LFO)   Off, On               25  A
    A4  A         "  Freq-mod     (Env)   Off, On               26  A
    A5  A        DCO-2            16',8',4'                     23  A
    A6  A         "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square, Noise     24  A
    A7  A         "  Cross-Mod    Off, Sync, Metal              14  A
    A8  13        "  Tune         (DCO-2 Only)                  13  82
    A9  8         "  Fine Tune    (DCO-2 Only)                  12  50
    A10 A         "  Freq-mod     (LFO)    Off, On              27  A
    A11 A         "  Freq-mod     (Env)    Off, On              28  A
    A12 6            LFO Depth    (25 and/or 27 must be on)     15  36 
    A13 1            Env Depth    (26 and/or 28 must be on)     16  0
    A14 B            Envelope     (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)    17  B
   
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                       VCF Section

    A15 10           Source mix    (0 = DCO-1, 99=DCO-2)        18  60
    A16 1            HPF           (0 = Full Cut, 99 = none)    35  0
    B1  2            Cut-off Freg. (0 = low, 99 = high)         11  92
    B2  1            Envelope Mod                               32  60
    B3  8            Pitch Follow  (controls VCF cutoff point)  33  50
    B4  1            Resonance     (emphasizes cut-off point)   31  0
    B5  10           LFO Mod                                    34  0
    B6  B            Polarity      (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)   36  B
             
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        VCA Section

    B7  A            VCA Mode      (A= Gate, B= Envelope)       38  A
    B8  5            Level         (Overall volume)             37  To suit
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        Chorus Section

    B9  B            Chorus         (A= Off, B= On)             48  B
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------  
                        LFO Section

    B10 A            LFO Wave       (Sine, Square, Random)      45  A
    B11 3                Delay Time                             46  18
    B12 11               Rate                                   47  66
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        Envelope Section

    B13\            Attack                                      41\  
    B14 \__Moot     Decay                                       42 \__Moot 
    B15 / See       Sustain                                     43 / See
    B16/  B8        Release                                     44/  38
    
    
    
      
  

665.2DrawbarsJAWS::COTELet's change the rules and giggle!!!Wed Jan 21 1987 08:1166
    This one is more homebrewed. It gives a big drawbar-type sound.
    
    The overall brightness of the patch can be modified by varying 
    parameter 33, VCF pitch follow. Increase the value for brighter 
    sound.

    Edd

    **************************************************************************

    JX3-P                                                      MKS-30
    Parameter                                                  
                          DCO Section                            P   V

    A1            DCO-1            16',8',4'                     21  A 
    A2             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square            22  A
    A3             "  Freq-mod     (LFO)   Off, On               25  B
    A4             "  Freq-mod     (Env)   Off, On               26  A
    A5            DCO-2            16',8',4'                     23  C
    A6             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square, Noise     24  A
    A7             "  Cross-Mod    Off, Sync, Metal              14  B 
    A8             "  Tune         (DCO-2 Only)                  13  50
    A9             "  Fine Tune    (DCO-2 Only)                  12  50
    A10            "  Freq-mod     (LFO)    Off, On              27  A
    A11            "  Freq-mod     (Env)    Off, On              28  A
    A12               LFO Depth    (25 and/or 27 must be on)     15  0 
    A13               Env Depth    (26 and/or 28 must be on)     16  99
    A14               Envelope     (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)    17  B

   -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                         VCF Section

    A15               Source mix    (0 = DCO-1, 99=DCO-2)        18  73
    A16               HPF           (0 = Full Cut, 99 = none)    35  0
    B1                Cut-off Freg. (0 = low, 99 = high)         11  58
    B2                Envelope Mod                               32  0
    B3                Pitch Follow  (controls VCF cutoff point)  33  34
    B4                Resonance     (emphasizes cut-off point)   31  16
    B5                LFO Mod                                    34  0
    B6                Polarity      (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)   36  B
  
   -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          VCA Section

    B7                VCA Mode      (A= Gate, B= Envelope)       38  B
    B8                Level         (Overall volume)             37  90
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        Chorus Section

    B9                Chorus         (A= Off, B= On)             48  B
   ------------------------------------------------------------------------  
                          LFO Section

    B10               LFO Wave       (Sine, Square, Random)      45  A
    B11                   Delay Time                             46  0
    B12                   Rate                                   47  76
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          Envelope Section

    B13               Attack                                      41  11
    B14               Decay                                       42  20
    B15               Sustain                                     43  99
    B16               Release                                     44  19
  

665.3 "Jump" JAWS::COTELet's change the rules and giggle!!!Wed Jan 21 1987 08:2166
  Eddie Van Halen still owes me for this one....

  Well, OK, even if you don't agree, it's still a nice fat low string
  patch.

  Edd

  **************************************************************************

    JX3-P                                                      MKS-30
  Parameter                                                  
                          DCO Section                            P   V

    A1            DCO-1            16',8',4'                     21  A
    A2             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square            22  A
    A3             "  Freq-mod     (LFO)   Off, On               25  A
    A4             "  Freq-mod     (Env)   Off, On               26  A
    A5            DCO-2            16',8',4'                     23  A
    A6             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square, Noise     24  A
    A7             "  Cross-Mod    Off, Sync, Metal              14  A
    A8             "  Tune         (DCO-2 Only)                  13  50
    A9             "  Fine Tune    (DCO-2 Only)                  12  66
    A10            "  Freq-mod     (LFO)    Off, On              27  A
    A11            "  Freq-mod     (Env)    Off, On              28  A
    A12               LFO Depth    (25 and/or 27 must be on)     15  36
    A13               Env Depth    (26 and/or 28 must be on)     16  42
    A14               Envelope     (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)    17  B

  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                         VCF Section

    A15               Source mix    (0 = DCO-1, 99=DCO-2)        18  50
    A16               HPF           (0 = Full Cut, 99 = none)    35  12
    B1                Cut-off Freg. (0 = low, 99 = high)         11  56
    B2                Envelope Mod                               32  12
    B3                Pitch Follow  (controls VCF cutoff point)  33  66
    B4                Resonance     (emphasizes cut-off point)   31  0
    B5                LFO Mod                                    34  0
    B6                Polarity      (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)   36  B
  
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          VCA Section

    B7                VCA Mode      (A= Gate, B= Envelope)       38  B
    B8                Level         (Overall volume)             37  99
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Chorus Section

    B9                Chorus         (A= Off, B= On)             48  B
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------  
                          LFO Section

    B10               LFO Wave       (Sine, Square, Random)      45  A
    B11                   Delay Time                             46  12
    B12                   Rate                                   47  78
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          Envelope Section

    B13               Attack                                      41 18
    B14               Decay                                       42 24
    B15               Sustain                                     43 82
    B16               Release                                     44 22
  

665.496 TearsJAWS::COTEAll jammed out...Wed Feb 04 1987 08:5167
  ARGH!! It's the world's cheesiest organ! Farfisa and Vox have sent
  squads of hit men out to quash this patch. Get it now before some-
  thing unspeakable happens!
  
  The upper registers sound best. VCF Pitch follow may be the answer.  
    
  Edd

  **************************************************************************

    JX3-P                                                      MKS-30
  Parameter                                                  
                          DCO Section                            P   V

    A1            DCO-1            16',8',4'                     21  A
    A2             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square            22  A
    A3             "  Freq-mod     (LFO)   Off, On               25  B
    A4             "  Freq-mod     (Env)   Off, On               26  A
    A5            DCO-2            16',8',4'                     23  C
    A6             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square, Noise     24  A
    A7             "  Cross-Mod    Off, Sync, Metal              14  B
    A8             "  Tune         (DCO-2 Only)                  13  49
    A9             "  Fine Tune    (DCO-2 Only)                  12  0
    A10            "  Freq-mod     (LFO)    Off, On              27  A
    A11            "  Freq-mod     (Env)    Off, On              28  B
    A12               LFO Depth    (25 and/or 27 must be on)     15  09
    A13               Env Depth    (26 and/or 28 must be on)     16  0
    A14               Envelope     (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)    17  A

  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                         VCF Section

    A15               Source mix    (0 = DCO-1, 99=DCO-2)        18  63
    A16               HPF           (0 = Full Cut, 99 = none)    35  0
    B1                Cut-off Freg. (0 = low, 99 = high)         11  51
    B2                Envelope Mod                               32  65
    B3                Pitch Follow  (controls VCF cutoff point)  33  93
    B4                Resonance     (emphasizes cut-off point)   31  0
    B5                LFO Mod                                    34  0
    B6                Polarity      (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)   36  B

  
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          VCA Section

    B7                VCA Mode      (A= Gate, B= Envelope)       38  B
    B8                Level         (Overall volume)             37  62
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Chorus Section

    B9                Chorus         (A= Off, B= On)             48  B
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------  
                          LFO Section

    B10               LFO Wave       (Sine, Square, Random)      45  A
    B11                   Delay Time                             46  0
    B12                   Rate                                   47  71
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          Envelope Section

    B13               Attack                                     41  0
    B14               Decay                                      42  0
    B15               Sustain                                    43  67
    B16               Release                                    44  0
  

665.5Moved...JAWS::COTEIsn't that spatial?Wed Oct 07 1987 09:0421
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Note 1421.0                      Mks-30 patches                        2 replies
CIMNET::DEBARROS                                     14 lines   6-OCT-1987 08:32
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    I have a Roland MKS-30 and accidently deleted my preset patches.
    These patches are not the default presets which are illustrated
    in the owners manual.  When I bought the unit, it came with a
    separate sheet of paper which has and preset patches and the
    memory cartridge patches.  The paper had the same block diagram
    as the manual and it has some Japaneese writing on it...
    I am lost without these patches.  On the presets,  the first bank
    has acustic piano, strings,   bank 3 patch 3 is called synth harp
    II, bank 4 has a log drum, and bass patches,  bank 7 has the wind
    and wave patches.
    
    Eric  
    send V/mail  to cimnet::debarros
665.6Acoustic Bass...JAWS::COTEyawn...Mon Jul 11 1988 09:3070
  Hmmm.... as I was typing this in I noticed that I may have made a 
  mistake copying the values down at home. The HPF is set to '0' which
  doesn't feel right...

  Anyhow, the patch is a nice acoustic bass with a definite slap as
  you increase velocity.
  
  My thanks to Dave Dreher for the use of his PG-200...
      
  Edd

  **************************************************************************

    JX3-P                                                      MKS-30
  Parameter                                                  
                          DCO Section                            P   V

    A1            DCO-1            16',8',4'                     21  A  
    A2             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square            22  A
    A3             "  Freq-mod     (LFO)   Off, On               25  B
    A4             "  Freq-mod     (Env)   Off, On               26  A
    A5            DCO-2            16',8',4'                     23  A
    A6             "  Wave         Saw, Pulse, Square, Noise     24  C
    A7             "  Cross-Mod    Off, Sync, Metal              14  B
    A8             "  Tune         (DCO-2 Only)                  13  28
    A9             "  Fine Tune    (DCO-2 Only)                  12  39
    A10            "  Freq-mod     (LFO)    Off, On              27  A
    A11            "  Freq-mod     (Env)    Off, On              28  A
    A12               LFO Depth    (25 and/or 27 must be on)     15  0
    A13               Env Depth    (26 and/or 28 must be on)     16  0
    A14               Envelope     (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)    17  B

  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                         VCF Section

    A15               Source mix    (0 = DCO-1, 99=DCO-2)        18  60
    A16               HPF           (0 = Full Cut, 99 = none)    35  0
    B1                Cut-off Freg. (0 = low, 99 = high)         11  20
    B2                Envelope Mod                               32  68
    B3                Pitch Follow  (controls VCF cutoff point)  33  15
    B4                Resonance     (emphasizes cut-off point)   31  0
    B5                LFO Mod                                    34  0
    B6                Polarity      (A= v-shaped, B= ^-shaped)   36  B

  
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          VCA Section

    B7                VCA Mode      (A= Gate, B= Envelope)       38  B
    B8                Level         (Overall volume)             37  99
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Chorus Section

    B9                Chorus         (A= Off, B= On)             48  B
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------  
                          LFO Section

    B10               LFO Wave       (Sine, Square, Random)      45  A
    B11                   Delay Time                             46  0
    B12                   Rate                                   47  0
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          Envelope Section

    B13               Attack                                     41  0
    B14               Decay                                      42  17
    B15               Sustain                                    43  54
    B16               Release                                    44  20
  

665.7Dead battery?WEFXEM::COTEThere wasn&#039;t even any Hollywood!Fri Feb 22 1991 08:178
    What's the symptom for a dead battery in an MC16 cartridge?
    
    I found this morning that about 80% of the patches I had stored
    on the cartridge are now noise. T'was OK yesterday....
    
    grrr....
    
    Edd
665.8Oh Mighty Lithium, Hear Our SupplicationsDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556Fri Feb 22 1991 09:349
    Sounds like a candidate.  I've yet to have an M16C or M64C go south on
    me, so I'm only conjecturing; I'd actually have expected everything to
    croak at more or less the same time.  Well, I guess 80% is fairly close
    to everything...
    
    You *did* save the data somewhere else, dincha?
    
    len.
    
665.9:7(WEFXEM::COTEThere wasn&#039;t even any Hollywood!Fri Feb 22 1991 10:015
    > You *did* save the data somewhere else....
    
    The M16 *was* the someplace else...
    
    Edd
665.10This Is A Feature?IXION::ROSTRockette Morton&#039;s illegitimate sonFri Feb 22 1991 10:146
    Woof...
    
    What the world needs is a RAM cart with a low battery warning.  Howcum
    only Ensoniq ever bothered with EEPROM, which needs no battery?
    
    						Brian
665.11Nicad of the living dead?WEFXEM::COTEThere wasn&#039;t even any Hollywood!Fri Feb 22 1991 22:225
    Go figure, tonite all the patches are back!
    
    Tomorrow I document all 64.
    
    Edd
665.12RICKS::SHERMANECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326Sat Feb 23 1991 23:495
    Batteries sometimes recharge themselves and cycle between providing
    juice and not.  This is typical of dry cells but not usually of
    alkalines or other long-life batteries.
    
    Steve
665.13WEFXEM::COTEThere wasn&#039;t even any Hollywood!Sun Feb 24 1991 11:1010
    Anyone know what the voltage of the lithium cell is supposed to be?
    I measure 3.29V.
    
    The cartridge seems brain-dead when cold, but comes to life after 1/2
    an hour or so.
    
    Maybe the problem isn't the cartridge...
    
    Edd
    
665.14IXION::ROSTRockette Morton&#039;s illegitimate sonSun Feb 24 1991 18:424
    The memories probably expect 5V, most parts are rated 5V +/- 10%.  3.29
    sounds dead to me.
    
    					Brian
665.15JX8-P PATCH SAVINGTFH::GRANFORSThu Jan 23 1992 13:025
    
    I am just new and bought a jx8_p AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO DUMP
    INTO TAPE TO SAVE CARTRIGE SOUNDS SINCE I WILL HAVE TO CHANGE BATTERY
    AT ONE DAY AND WILL NEED TO KNOW HOW TO USE THE CARTRIGE SAVE OPTION.
    SEND TO TFH::GRANFORS
665.16Probably Not PossibleDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG1-2/W10Thu Jan 23 1992 16:209
    I'm just guessing, but as a JX-10 (which I am familiar with) is
    basically two JX-8Ps in the same box, I would guess they did it the
    same way on the JX-10 as on the JX-8P, which is to say, they didn't.
    
    The only way you can save cartridge data on a JX-10 is via a MIDI SysEx
    dump.  There is no way to save this data to tape.
    
    len.
     
665.17Huh?RGB::ROSTAshley Hutchings wannabeFri Jan 24 1992 08:407
    Re: .16
    
    Does this mean you can't copy the cart data to internal memory and then
    dump *that* to tape?  That's how other tape-based synths I've owned
    worked.
    
    						Brian
665.18No TapeDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG1-2/W10Fri Jan 24 1992 09:0615
    The JX-10 has no tape interface.  Period.  I don't know about the
    JX-8P.
    
    BTW, the JX-10 does SysEx patch dumps *only* from the cartridge, so if
    you want to save the internal memory to disk, you have to copy it to a
    scratch cartridge!
    
    I suspect that in Japanese, ROLAND is the acronym for "never do it the
    same way twice".  Roland's product development groups don't seem to
    talk to one another at all - one synth or sequencer will provide a
    great feature that ought to become a standard offering, and the next
    product will leave it out.
    
    len.
    
665.19MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Fri Jan 24 1992 16:1611
    >I suspect that in Japanese, ROLAND is the acronym for "never do it the
    >same way twice".  Roland's product development groups don't seem to
    >talk to one another at all - one synth or sequencer will provide a
    >great feature that ought to become a standard offering, and the next
    >product will leave it out.
    
    
    Yeah.  Like that's probably why my D70 will generate release velocity
    but my MC50 won't record it ... <sigh>
    
    Steve
665.20MANTHN::EDDPress END or pay! {argh}Fri Jan 24 1992 16:207
    Oddly enough, the JX3-P *does* support tape dumps, although it's 
    rack mount brethren the MKS-30 doesn't. But that's OK, cuz the MKS-30
    supports an expander cartridge, but no tape or SYSEX, but mine gets
    real HOT as soon as I plug the cartridge in anyhow so the whole point
    is moot.
    
    Edd
665.21MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Fri Jan 24 1992 16:243
    Ha!  Who says the Juno 106 is the only female synth!
    
    Steve