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| 620.1 | I was going to ask about this, anyway... | AKOV68::EATON | Impressionable Youth | Mon Dec 22 1986 13:10 | 14 | 
|  | RE: Note 620.0 by NOVA::RAVAN 
    
>    A collolary question: "Anyone else already doing this?"
    
	Sort of.
	I just noticed the ad in the back of Keyboard magazine for the Oberheim
DPX-1 - 'Digital Sample Player'.  It will read sample disks from the three
"most widely used" samplers - Emu II, Prophet 2000 and Ensoniq's Mirage.
	I would guess, as the name implies, it is read-only.  Didn't see any
price tag.  Anyone know anything about it?
	Dan
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| 620.2 | Prove it, Tom\ | 16514::MOELLER | SALSA::MOELLER Tucson AZ USA Sol3 | Mon Dec 22 1986 16:14 | 13 | 
|  |     Oberheim was Chapter 11 earlier this year. Not too many stores carry
    this gear.. I feel it's quite naive to expect to have my hands on
    Emulator disks (5 1/2")... but they've obviously unlocked the operating
    system and disk format for various other samplers. Seems like a
    solution for a nonexistent problem... unless the price is WAY down
    there, in which case I'll take two. More GLARING omissions from
    the ad: note range. number of simultaneous voices. ability to
    reconfigure a keyboard program. amount of memory. I suspect it is
    indeed a play only unit, with NO rewrite capability.. nice, *IF*
    all the samples you get are already set up in perfectly usable
    playable programs... NFW...
    
    karl
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| 620.3 |  | CANYON::MOELLER | What was the question ? | Tue Dec 23 1986 18:12 | 5 | 
|  |     This is for Jim Ravan.. Jim, check out that issue of Electronic
    Musician, about how to STEREOIZE your Mirage for ~$10 in parts..
    also claim a cleaner signal ! I assume yours is out of warranty..
    
    karl
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| 620.4 | FCO my VCO? NFW! | JAWS::COTE | MIDI Christmas to all!! | Wed Dec 24 1986 08:16 | 15 | 
|  |     I read it and decided against it.
    
               1. Retrofit disables volume slider, leaving me
                  dependent on a keyboard mixer.
    
               2. Image is not what I call stereo. To me, a stereo
                  piano patch would pan dependent on pitch. The
                  FCO sends groups of notes either hard left or
                  hard right depending on which oscillator was being
                  used. A full keyboard arpeggio would bounce back and
                  forth between left and right. A cute effect ocassionally,
                  but I think I'd get tired of it quick. Pan pots
                  would minimize effect though.
    
    Edd
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| 620.6 | The DPX-1, by Oberheim | AKOV68::EATON | Impressionable Youth | Wed Dec 24 1986 09:04 | 13 | 
|  | RE Note 620.2 by 16514::MOELLER 
> Seems like a
> solution for a nonexistent problem... unless the price is WAY down
> there, in which case I'll take two. 
	Curiosity got the better of me, so I called a New York retailer.  They
said the DPX-1 was not yet available.  I asked them for a ballpark price and
they said it's listing for around $2000.
	Dan
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| 620.7 | Good Stuff | NOVA::RAVAN |  | Wed Dec 24 1986 09:08 | 20 | 
|  |     You betcha!  At this point my Mirage is WAY out of warranty.
    
    I agree with -.1 about the retrofit.  Disabling the volume slider
    is a real drag, and per-oscillator bouncing is not what I would
    normally call 'stereo'.
    
    What I *DID* like about the article *A LOT* was the overall description
    of how the Mirage works inside and all the things you can do to
    it in general.  I'm very interested in contacting the op amp folks
    the author mentioned and getting the low noise op amp.  Old Mirages
    like mine are pretty noisy, at least compared to my DX-7.  I also
    liked the idea of using the 8 LPFs via Midi for filtering external
    sounds you route into the board from outside.  Nide idea.
    
    As a side note, articles like this are the reason I much prefer
    ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN to KEYBOARD, et. al.  This one article was worth
    the price of my subscription this year.
    Thanks for the pointer,
    Jim
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| 620.8 | Ping-pong strings | CANYON::MOELLER | What was the question ? | Wed Dec 24 1986 11:59 | 11 | 
|  |     re the Mirage mod... I don't disagree with your points of view,
    but, hell, the 'per oscillator bouncing' is the way both the Prophet
    2000/2002 and the AKAI S900 do their 'stereo' outputs.. not bad
    company. Plus, the article was strangely vague as exactly what to
    expect regarding the stereo image after you're done. Plus, the
    disabling of the volume slider ain't THAT horrible. I never touch
    the volume adjustment on my piano rackmount. Plus, there ARE stereo
    volume pedals available, Plus... I've run out of plusses. Have a
    GOOD holiday and I hope Santa is kind.
    
    karl
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| 620.9 | JX-10 Whole Mode Stereo | DRUMS::FEHSKENS |  | Thu Jan 08 1987 13:15 | 7 | 
|  |     Yeah, the JX-10 does it too, in "whole" mode - notes get assigned
    successively to the 6 "upper" modules, then to the 6 "lower" modules,
    etc..  Dumb - in whole mode they should route the modules' outputs
    to *both* sides;  I think that's what the Super Jupiter does.
    
    len.
    
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| 620.10 |  | SKYLRK::MESSENGER | Things fall apart -- it's scientific | Fri Mar 27 1987 13:22 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Yes... be aware, however, that if you do the Mirage mod that you
    will lose half your simultaneous voicing capability... I believe
    you go from 8 voices to 4...
    				- HBM
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