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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:	* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:	DYPSS1::SCHAFER

Created:	Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:	Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2852
Total number of notes:	33157

618.0. "Roland S50 Sampling Keyboard" by HSKIS2::LEHTINEN (Timo Lehtinen, CSC/TSC Helsinki) Mon Dec 22 1986 09:41

    I'd like to set this topic for discussions on the Roland S50
    sampler. I traded my DX-7 in for the S50 for about a week 
    ago now. I'm hoping to write somekind of a "review" here 
    once I get more familiar with the machine. The thought just
    came to me that some of you might allready be considering 
    buying this instrument and I might be able to provide some 
    needed info. So before I get a more detailed note written 
    I'm ready to answer any questions you might have.
    
    Brief intro to basic specs:
    
    - The keyboard model is about DX-7 size, black and weighs 10 Kg:s.
    - 5 octave keyboard
    - A very nice user interface by a menu/windowing software onboard
      You have to supply your own monitor (B/W or RGB) though.
    - 30 KHz / 15 KHz fixed sampling rate
    - With 30 KHz s/r input/output lowpass filters set at 15 KHz.
    - With 30 KHz s/r enough memory for 14 secs.
    - MAX number of samples 16.
    - Uses the standard 3 and whatever " disks.
    - Enough RAM to store the data from the whole disk onboard.
    - Comes with 5 prewritten disks.
        Grandpiano
        Strins/Choir
        Percussions
        3 different basses/marimba/vibes/clockenspiel
        Effects 
    
    Timo Lehtinen

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618.1	16 voices take a little longer !	CANYON::MOELLER	What was the question ?	`Mon Dec 22 1986 10:57`	12
	A good friend of mine has an older brother who is quite successful in the L.A. based soundtrack-and-album scene. This brother (let's call him 'Michael') has traditionally rented Emulator IIs for sampling work. He recently purchased an S50. Feedback is, compared to the E-Mu way of sampling, it is INCREDIBLY TEDIOUS and timeconsuming (not always the same thing- expenses are tedious, but take little time). Apparently the user interface is not well thought out. Or it could be that a person new to sampling would not have to unlearn old patterns. I look forward to any hands-on reviews of this new product. karl
618.2	free speach, copyright 1986	JON::ROSS	dont shoot the piano player!	`Mon Dec 22 1986 17:31`	14
	hot item. Just the facts ma'am. Your opinions. I cant wait. We ARE talking large delta dollars compared to EM II. It might be unfair to compare. ron
618.3	Roland S-50 Sampling Keyboard	FDCV01::SIDBDEV	Actually ISWISS::ARVIDSON - 223-2003	`Thu Jan 08 1987 18:29`	9
	I has been said that Len just made it out of E.U.Wurlitzers last visit without an S-50 under his arm. Wonder what will happen next time he stops by? I stopped by E.U. Wurlitzers about a week ago and became very interested in this unit. Will have to wait until the end of Sept. to buy one, I too would be interested in hearing 'finger's and mind's on review'. Dan
618.4	simple S50 help needed thanks	NORGE::CHAD	Ich glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tte	`Thu Mar 29 1990 15:42`	20
	I was at the local HS again this morning and now they have a simple question. They have been using their S50 mostly as playback. They want to sample some sounds now for a show. Fine. They have sampled a sound and edited that sound and SAVE ALL allows them to save it. NOw they want to sample a second sound and save it with the first sound. They loaded the first one back in and then sampled the second sound and the first was gone. Now, I assume what is happening is that the sound is in the edit/sample buffer and needs to be saved in some sort of TONE buffer (or whatever the Roland jargon is) and then the second sound can be saved and copied tyo a different TONE. Is this correct? Then a PATCH can be set up with the tones mapped to the keyboard and then the whole thing can be saved to disk. Is this right? Could some one please outline the process for doing this on the S50? The kids at the school have a tough time reading the manual ( I didn't do much better looking at it while I was there to try and figure it out). Thanks. Chad PS: Any replies detailing help will be extracted/noheader for the folks to read and use at the HS unless you say not to do it.
618.5	Wild guess	DREGS::BLICKSTEIN	Conliberative	`Thu Mar 29 1990 16:30`	10
	Only thing I can think of is that when they sampled it, the selected "destination" tone was that of the first sample and it over-wrote it. It could be that the default/current destination tone happens to be where their sample is (probably tone I1). Other than that, it's a mystery to me. There is no real temporary "edit" buffer that gets thrown away when you create something new on the S-50. BTW, I have a S-550, not an S-50 but their almost identical.