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612.1 | | ECADSR::SHERMAN | | Wed Dec 17 1986 09:08 | 2 |
| A little oops, here. I'm aware that the 101 is cheaper than the
230s.
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612.2 | Boom chicka boom chicka boom boom chicka | MAILER::EATON | | Wed Dec 17 1986 11:22 | 4 |
| The 230s also has a simple drum machine built-in, with a very
simple sequencer.
Dan
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612.3 | Preset vs. program | PHUBAR::WELLS | Nothing truly trivial passes me by. | Wed Dec 17 1986 12:50 | 5 |
| In another note where a 230s is offered for sale, it mentions 100
presets, of which 4 are programmable via MIDI. Does this mean no
front panel programming (i.e. really a preset-only machine)?
Richard
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612.4 | simple but fun | CGHUB::IBBETT | OIS Performance Group | Thu Dec 18 1986 10:38 | 9 |
| Re .-1
Correct. No mussing with the timbres. It *is*, however, a *very*
good starter keyboard for MIDI - unless you're a *real* keyboard
player and would therefore be 'offended' by the small keys, etc
[ :-) ].
If anyone who has influence over a certain guy from the North Pole
is listening, I could use an FB01...
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612.5 | | WASTED::tomg | Danger: Slow Thinker at Work | Wed Jun 05 1991 14:48 | 6 |
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Can someone provide me with the list of features of the CZ101 as
well as any pros/cons of the device?
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612.6 | From Memory | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556 | Wed Jun 05 1991 16:05 | 46 |
| 1) small, cute, interesting
2) 4 or 8 voice, depending on structure of patch
3) "phase distortion" analog of traditional analog synth:
a) DCOs (digital oscillators) select 8 basic waveforms, some of
which may be combined
b) waveforms may be phase distorted to produce analog
filtering-like effect, varying sound from raspy to flutelike
c) "filtered" waveform may be amplitude shaped
d) 8 stage envelope generators applicable (separately) to DCO
pitch, waveform and amplitude
e) two sets of the above (a-d) may be combined by addition or ring
modulation (amplitude multiplication), or one set may be used
for twice as many voices.
4) 48 patches selectable:
16 "builtin" patches, mostly pretty lame
16 "user defined" onboard patches
16 "user defined" cartridge resident patches
5) 3 octave miniature keyboard, portamento, bender
6) basic midi implementation, including multitimbral "solo" mode
7) battery powered with external ("wall bug) ac supply
Pros - cheap, capable of some unique sounds; 8 stage envelopes very
flexible. Easy to program. Very portable.
Cons - keyboard is only a toy. Incapable of some important sounds
(e.g., piano). Nominally obsolete technology, so cartridges and
3rd party patches hard to come by.
Net - as these are selling used for around $100, and they are capable
of some neat sounds (especially when augmented by an outboard chorus),
they are usually well worth the investment for a low end studio.
len (former satisfied owner of a CZ-101).
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612.7 | 4 not 3 | RGB::ROST | Jimmy Blanton's love child | Wed Jun 05 1991 16:13 | 17 |
| > 5) 3 octave miniature keyboard, portamento, bender
Oops, Len it's 4 octaves...
> Nominally obsolete technology, so cartridges and
3rd party patches hard to come by.
Carts yes, patches no (by mail, anyway). Still quite a few developers
selling them, although not creating any new ones. Lotsa public domain
(free) patches still floating around (like your awesome organ,
Len...the organ *patch*, I mean...), as well as editor software for
almost all computers.
On carts, for DIYers, I have schematics for a four bank (16 X 4) RAM
cart that can be built for about $20 of parts.
Brian
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612.8 | They shoulda Made a Rack Mount Version... | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556 | Wed Jun 05 1991 16:29 | 12 |
| re .7
Could be 4, it's so tiny it seems like 3. Must be my old Casio MT-40
that's only 3 octaves.
Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold my CZ-101, but the upgrade to the D-50
was too hard to resist...
;^)
len.
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612.9 | this is from memory ... | RICKS::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326 | Thu Jun 06 1991 10:47 | 7 |
| As I recall, the CZ is sans aftertouch and velocity response. You do
get a pitch bend wheel. And, programming strikes me as simpler and
easier than with other synths. Only one audio output. I've actually
used it in performance playing a flute part which was tolerable.
Pretty good bang for the buck.
Steve
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612.10 | use it all the time | NAC::SCHUCHARD | Al Bundy for Gov' | Thu Jun 06 1991 13:32 | 14 |
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As i understand it, the one i got from Rodney, he got from Len. Biggest
complaint is the keyboard - my fingers are big enough already.
That said, i have found it to be much fun, and extremely helpful in
recording. I consider it a useful, if sometimes futile, task to try
and meld the brass presets into something tolerable. Usually, I hunt
thru the patches listed in the conference and mangle them to my
specification. All in all, lot's of value for the going rate, which
i find highly unusual in this corner of the toy world.
uh Brian, how big a ditz can i be and still create the cart?
bob
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