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| 612.1 |  | ECADSR::SHERMAN |  | Wed Dec 17 1986 09:08 | 2 | 
|  |     A little oops, here.  I'm aware that the 101 is cheaper than the
    230s.
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| 612.2 | Boom chicka boom chicka boom boom chicka | MAILER::EATON |  | Wed Dec 17 1986 11:22 | 4 | 
|  |     	The 230s also has a simple drum machine built-in, with a very
    simple sequencer.
    
    	Dan
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| 612.3 | Preset vs. program | PHUBAR::WELLS | Nothing truly trivial passes me by. | Wed Dec 17 1986 12:50 | 5 | 
|  |     In another note where a 230s is offered for sale, it mentions 100
    presets, of which 4 are programmable via MIDI.  Does this mean no
    front panel programming (i.e. really a preset-only machine)?
    
    Richard
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| 612.4 | simple but fun | CGHUB::IBBETT | OIS Performance Group | Thu Dec 18 1986 10:38 | 9 | 
|  |     Re .-1
    
    Correct. No mussing with the timbres. It *is*, however, a *very*
    good starter keyboard for MIDI - unless you're a *real* keyboard
    player and would therefore be 'offended' by the small keys, etc
    [ :-) ].
    
    If anyone who has influence over a certain guy from the North Pole
    is listening, I could use an FB01...
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| 612.5 |  | WASTED::tomg | Danger: Slow Thinker at Work | Wed Jun 05 1991 13:48 | 6 | 
|  | 
Can someone provide me with the list of features of the CZ101 as
well as any pros/cons of the device?
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| 612.6 | From Memory | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556 | Wed Jun 05 1991 15:05 | 46 | 
|  |     1) small, cute, interesting
    
    2) 4 or 8 voice, depending on structure of patch
    
    3) "phase distortion" analog of traditional analog synth:
    
    	a) DCOs (digital oscillators) select 8 basic waveforms, some of
    	   which may be combined
    
    	b) waveforms may be phase distorted to produce analog
    	   filtering-like effect, varying sound from raspy to flutelike
    
    	c) "filtered" waveform may be amplitude shaped
    
    	d) 8 stage envelope generators applicable (separately) to DCO
   	   pitch, waveform and amplitude
    
    	e) two sets of the above (a-d) may be combined by addition or ring
    	   modulation (amplitude multiplication), or one set may be used
    	   for twice as many voices.
    
    4) 48 patches selectable:
    
     	16 "builtin" patches, mostly pretty lame
     	16 "user defined" onboard patches
    	16 "user defined" cartridge resident patches
    
    5) 3 octave miniature keyboard, portamento, bender
    
    6) basic midi implementation, including multitimbral "solo" mode
    
    7) battery powered with external ("wall bug) ac supply
    
    Pros - cheap, capable of some unique sounds; 8 stage envelopes very
    flexible.  Easy to program. Very portable.
    
    Cons - keyboard is only a toy.  Incapable of some important sounds
    (e.g., piano).  Nominally obsolete technology, so cartridges and
    3rd party patches hard to come by.
    
    Net - as these are selling used for around $100, and they are capable
    of some neat sounds (especially when augmented by an outboard chorus),
    they are usually well worth the investment for a low end studio.
    
    len (former satisfied owner of a CZ-101).
      
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| 612.7 | 4 not 3 | RGB::ROST | Jimmy Blanton's love child | Wed Jun 05 1991 15:13 | 17 | 
|  |    > 5) 3 octave miniature keyboard, portamento, bender
    
    Oops, Len it's 4 octaves...
    
   > Nominally obsolete technology, so cartridges and
    3rd party patches hard to come by.
    
    Carts yes, patches no (by mail, anyway).  Still quite a few developers
    selling them, although not creating any new ones.  Lotsa public domain
    (free) patches still floating around (like your awesome organ,
    Len...the organ *patch*, I mean...), as well as editor software for
    almost all computers.
    
    On carts, for DIYers, I have schematics for a four bank (16 X 4) RAM
    cart that can be built for about $20 of parts.
    
    						 Brian
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| 612.8 | They shoulda Made a Rack Mount Version... | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | len, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556 | Wed Jun 05 1991 15:29 | 12 | 
|  |     re .7
    
    Could be 4, it's so tiny it seems like 3.  Must be my old Casio MT-40
    that's only 3 octaves.
    
    Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold my CZ-101, but the upgrade to the D-50
    was too hard to resist...
    
    ;^)
    
    len.
    
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| 612.9 | this is from memory ... | RICKS::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326 | Thu Jun 06 1991 09:47 | 7 | 
|  |     As I recall, the CZ is sans aftertouch and velocity response.  You do
    get a pitch bend wheel.  And, programming strikes me as simpler and
    easier than with other synths.  Only one audio output.  I've actually
    used it in performance playing a flute part which was tolerable.
    Pretty good bang for the buck.
    
    Steve
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| 612.10 | use it all the time | NAC::SCHUCHARD | Al Bundy for Gov' | Thu Jun 06 1991 12:32 | 14 | 
|  |     
    As i understand it, the one i got from Rodney, he got from Len. Biggest
    complaint is the keyboard - my fingers are big enough already.
    
    That said, i have found it to be much fun, and extremely helpful in
    recording.  I consider it a useful, if sometimes futile, task to try
    and meld the brass presets into something tolerable. Usually, I hunt
    thru the patches listed in the conference and mangle them to my
    specification.  All in all, lot's of value for the going rate, which
    i find highly unusual in this corner of the toy world.
    
    uh Brian, how big a ditz can i be and still create the cart?
    
    	bob
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