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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

584.0. "Ensoniq ESQ1 - Help Loading Data from Tape" by RDGE00::NORTON () Thu Nov 27 1986 05:10

    Hi there,
    
    I'm now the fortunate owner of an ESQ1. The availability here in
    the UK is pretty bad and trying to find out anything about the machine
    is very difficult so I wonder if any of you can help me ?
    
    My first problem came very quickly (I'm not very tecnically in to
    synths anyway). When you switch the machine on you get 40 preset
    erasable sounds in the internal memory - you also get a tape that
    has a sticker on it saying 'factory presets and sequences'. On my
    tape there are about six lots of signal but no indication of what
    the seperate 'bursts' contain. The information could be program
    data (sounds), sequence date or both. If you try to load sequence
    data and its really program data then it erases all the memory etc.
    
    So far Ive managed to load only one thing of the tape - and thats
    the original 40 sounds ! The big problem is not knowing whats on
    the tape and what sort of data it is (ie the running order of the
    tape ). At least if I knew I was trying to load the right data and
    failing, I could concentrate on the tape deck and levels etc.
    
    I'm hoping that this tape has the other 80 preset sounds on it.
    There are cartridges available but I havn't found a shop that can
    tell me if the writable E2 Storage cartridge has the presets on
    it or if they come on a seperate readonly cartridge. They all say
    that they never have the machines long enough to try these things.
    The shop where I bought the machine is not local to me so I can't
    get along to try anything. The assistant even rang ME to ask me
    a tecnical query!
    
    If any of you can help I will be eternally grateful !
    
              ANDREW
    
    
    
    
    
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584.1Don't worry - I've done it !!RDGE00::NORTONMon Dec 01 1986 04:1225
    Actually, I've worked it all out now. I spent the weekend sticking
    at it until I got the tape to load. If anybodys interested the tape
    running order is:
    
    Side A 
    1. Factory programs bank A
    2. Factory programs bank A
    
    Side B
    1. Factory programs bank A
    2. Factory DEMO sequence.
    
    .... A bit boring huh ?
    
    Armed with this information I bought the E2 cartridge for another
    55 pounds. The cartridge has 80 preset sounds on it - Bank A  and
    Bank B. The cartridge is erasable and the cartridge banks are easily
    transferable to the internal bank etc.
    
    As far as the synth goes, I'm impressed....
    
    
    Andrew
    
       
584.3Hmmm...goodVERDI::KLOSTERMANStevie KMon Dec 01 1986 09:4211
	I picked mine up Saturday.  We spent the afternoon comparing presets
with a friend's DW-8000 and Juno-60.  

	I bought the sequencer option (expands it to 10,000 notes) but haven't
installed it yet.  With the 2400 note max builtin I filled it up in no time with
8 tracks of stuff.  When the option is installed it erases memory, so I want to 
make sure my cassette download works first.

	Without even looking at the user's manual I was able to figure out most
of the features fairly quickly.  That's what I really like.
584.4so..RDGE00::NORTONTue Dec 02 1986 03:196


    .... So how does it compare ??


584.5Nice beastie!HANDEL::KLOSTERMANStevie KTue Dec 02 1986 10:1330
	re:.4

	Well, I'm a novice synthesist...but, my first 'review', eh?

	It blows the Juno out the door.  Anything the Juno can do, the ESQ does
better, sound by sound. It's hard to compare it apples and apples with the Korg,
but the 'digital' type sounds (trumpets, especially) are real good.  The string
patches aren't great, but I picked up the additional 80-voice cartridge (haven't
listened to it yet) which includes harpsicord and string patches.  The guy at
Union says they are 'much better' than the ones that come with the unit. The two
piano and organ patches are awesome. 

	I learned how to program the sequencer in about 10 minutes.  Within a
half hour I had 8-track sequences going, chaining and looping with different
tempos, parameters.  

	The user interface is fantastic.  Everything is one button away.  Even
though I've never used a sequencer or synth before, I rarely had to consult the
user's manual.  

	Tomorrow night we're going to hook it up to the DW-8000 and try
controlling it from the ESQ.  The user's manual again is very clear and consise
on what you have to do. 

	The ESQ is the machine I've been waiting for.  The ideal machine for the
guy that wants one box to do it all.  I've been using it to generate rhythm
tracks to practice with and it's a great tool.  The features are there to
generate exciting new sounds once I learn the ropes. I haven't even starting the
'synthesis' part of it.  That begins tonite. 

584.6Just add a drum machineCLULES::SPEEDDerek Speed, WS Tech MktgThu Dec 04 1986 12:4718
    One thing to add to Stevie K's note about using the sequencer:
    
    Another friend of mine has one and used my TR707 drum machine as a
    slave off the sequencer.  Since the TR707 is velocity sensitive via
    MIDI and responds to MIDI note on and note off commands, he was able to
    play the TR707 from the ESQ-1's keyboard and have it recorded on a
    track on the sequencer, including velocity information!  Now, when he
    wants to play it back, he connects the MIDI out from the ESQ-1 to the
    MIDI in of the TR707 and the ESQ-1's sequencer plays the TR707 as if it
    were a synth.  Believe me, using the velocity info makes the drums
    sound much more realistic. 

    Note that this is not particularly revolutionary, but makes for
    a nice, compact set-up without using the ESQ-1 itself as a drum
    machine.  I was not impressed with its drum sounds at all, plus
    you use up voices at the same time.
    
    		Derek
584.7exitRDGE28::NORTONFri Dec 05 1986 03:493
     Is the TR505 velocity sensetive too - I can't remember ?
    
    -Andrew
584.8Uh-huh...JAWS::COTEWhat is the frequency, Kenneth?Fri Dec 05 1986 08:243
    Yep, over MIDI.
    
    Edd
584.9an nopeGNERIC::ROSSuntitledFri Dec 05 1986 10:423
    meaning nope from the pads.
    ron
    
584.10REGENT::SCHMIEDERFri Dec 05 1986 17:344
I'll have to check to see if my Yamaha RX11 receives velocity info via MIDI.
Somehow, I doubt it.

				Mark
584.11ESQ-1 questionKIM::HARMONMon Dec 08 1986 11:498
    I finally got to play an ESQ-1 the other day.  I agree with the
    general concensus that it is well thought-out, easy to use, etc.
    One thing I didn't like about it at all were the electric piano
    presets.  The store didn't have any of the extra cartridges in
    stock; does anybody know if those cartridges have more electric
    piano sounds?  What I'm hoping for is a decent Rhodes imitation.
    
    Paul
584.12Roll your ownNIMBUS::DAVISMon Dec 08 1986 16:5411
    RE .11
    
    The presets on the cartridges aren't that much better than what
    comes in memory. It seems that good electric pianos should be possible
    but none of the presets cut it. My friend came up with a pretty
    one simply by changing the waveforms on the acoustic piano to electric
    piano waves. This alone made a better sound than the presets. Don't
    give up.
    
    Rob
    
584.13Rhodes to RosenRDGE00::NORTONTue Dec 09 1986 03:5217
    
    I aggree with .12,
    
    The cartridge only contains 40 'new' sounds and they are just more
    of the same including some fairly useless sound effects type noises
    and yet MORE bass drum programs. The cartridge is fairly essential
    from a memory point of view though.
    
    I was  a bit dissapointed with the lack of a decent Rhodes sound
    as I'm sure it must be possible. Being the novice synthesist that
    I am I'd be quite interested if anyone finds a decent patch/program.
    
    Which brings me to .2 - I havn't managed to get any mail through
    to this address yet. It sounds worthwhile though, can anyone be
    more explicit as to what I type !!
    
    Andrew
584.14Try this oneBRAHMS::KLOSTERMANStevie KTue Dec 09 1986 09:4459
	I agree on the presets, generally.  The e piano doesn't like much and
the presets generally don't take advantage of the three ocsillators.  I
programmed this following sound on the ESQ-1 which received via the ESQ mailing
list.  It's the first sound that's really impressed me using the three
oscillators. 


					PROGRAM: T/STR2
					--------
	Patch sounds like the trumpets and a string patch layered together.  

	OCT=	SEMI=	FINE=	WAVE=	MOD#1	DEPTH	MOD#2	DEPTH
	-------------------------------------------------------------
OSC 1	+0	00	02	saw	lfo1	-02	env1	+03
OSC 2	-1	11	30	piano	lfo2	+02	env1	+02
OSC 3	+0	00	00	pulse	lfo3	+03	env2	-02
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	LEVEL=		OUTPUT=		MOD#1	DEPTH	MOD#2	DEPTH
	-------------------------------------------------------------
DCA 1	54		on		off	00	off	00
DCA 2	54		on		off	00	off	00
DCA 3	63		on		off	00	off	00
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	FREQ=	Q=	OUTPUT=		MOD#1	DEPTH	MOD#2	DEPTH
	-------------------------------------------------------------
FILTER	32	02	31		env3	+41	off	00
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	VOLUME MOD	DEPTH	PAN=	PAN MODULATOR		DEPTH
	-------------------------------------------------------------
DCA 4	ENV4		63	08	off			00
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	FREQ=	RESET=	HUMAN=	WAV=	L1=	DELAY=	L2=	MOD=
	-------------------------------------------------------------
LFO 1	20	off	on	tri	00	01	20	wheel
LFO 2	22	off	on	tri	00	21	20	wheel
LFO 3	22	off	on	tri	00	05	25	wheel
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	L1=   L2=   L3=   LV=  T1Y= T1=  T2=  T3=  T4=  TK=
	--------------------------------------------------
ENV 1	+16   +00    +00  +30   00  15   19    03  20   09
ENV 2   +27   +00    +00  +00   00  00   17    00  63   15
ENV 3   +63   +63    +56   63   00  15   00    26  09   00
ENV 4   +42   +61    +43   22   32  15   29    63  36   09
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	SYNC=	AM=	MONO=	GLIDE=	VC=	ENV=	OSC=	CYC=
	-------------------------------------------------------------
MODES   off	off	off	00	off	off	on	off
	-------------------------------------------------------------

	SPL/LAY-->PROG	LAY-->PROG	SPL-->PROG	SPLIT KEY
	-------------------------------------------------------------
SPLIT/	
LAYER	   <<< no splitting, no layering >>>
584.15Ensoniq seminar tonite in WorcesterHANDEL::KLOSTERMANStevie KTue Dec 09 1986 12:396

	Tonite, at 7:30 pm, Union Music in Worcester is sponsoring an seminar on
Ensoniq keyboards with factory reps and users.  They'll cover, among other
things, the Mirage and ESQ-1.  I'm not sure of the details, but I think it's
free of charge.
584.16World's Worst Job16514::MOELLERSALSA::MOELLER Tucson AZ U.S.A.Tue Dec 09 1986 13:2411
    re -1..
    
    Wednesday 12/10 there will be the same Ensoniq demo at the Music
    Workshop on Speedway Boulevard in Tucson Arizona.
    
    I think I'll go.. 2 Mirage racks at ~$1200 each MAY be better than
    one EMAX or AKAI S900 rack.. at the same price.
    
    Wonder if it's the same guy ?
    
    -karl
584.17ESQ1 -- EPROM availabilityVINO::BRAITHWAITETue Dec 30 1986 09:2172
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Name: 84) IVM/ENSONIQ SUPPORT
Type: ARTICLE
Date: 26-DEC-1986 14:48 by ENSONIQRLW
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Mirage and ESQ support
 
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12/26/86
 
ENSONIQ Authorizes IVM to Provide Third Party Support
 
ENSONIQ  Corp has authorized Indian Valley Manufacturing (IVM) of
Telford, PA to offer support to third party developers of ENSONIQ
equipment.  IVM now offers items for the Mirage and the ESQ-1.
 
Mirage.   IVM  is licensed from ENSONIQ to copy sound disks  with
the  current version of the Mirage Operating System.   This  will
not violate the ENSONIQ copyright.
 
ESQ-1.  IVM will create non-eraseable sound cartridges based on a
master cartridge.   These cartridges use an EPROM, as compared to
the EEPROM in the STC-8 cartridge offered by ENSONIQ.  While this
does  not  allow  the user to write over  a  program,  the  EPROM
cartridges  offer  significant  cost  savings  over  EEPROM-based
cartridges.
 
IVM  will  also publish ESQ-1 sounds presented by  outside  sound
developers.
 
For more information on these services contact:
 
David Ziembiecki
IVM Manufacturing
69 Madison Ave.
Telford, PA 18969
 
215-723-3210
 
 
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